I am an unreasonable man…

…and so some things piss me off disproportionately.

Today’s nonsense. Non-descriptive names for colours on items on websites.

Calling a colour “Loden” doesn’t help. WTF is “Loden”? Is it grey, or green?

I don’t know, and it’s not clear from your pictures, because the colour balance on my monitor may not be the same as on the £4000+ monitor of the marketing expert who focus grouped “Loden”.

FFS.

You think you’ve got colour problems?

Adobe have fallen out with Pantone and there are no longer any Pantone palettes in its software. This has caused me great pain as it’s my default reference point for everything

As for other colours like paint charts, havent they always had names like Artisan Felch or Cappuccino Wombat?

@kayak

If I have to google it, it’s a fail from a UX point of view.

“Ooooh, ‘Loden’ sounds exclusive.”

$£&*s

I have this problem too. We bought (I say ‘we’ in the loose sense) a paint called Basket of Bobbins some years ago. It went on the wall, I was still mystified about its colour even then. WTF?

The failure is thinking any colour on a screen matches the actual item/shade/colour in real life!

Farrow and Ball to the website please…

Loden frost is #788f74 in the Pantone system:

https://margaret2.github.io/pantone-colors/

Why don’t they just use RAL numbers to avoid ambiguity

If I have to google it, it’s a fail from a UX point of view.

Or an erudition fail in your part 😉

No, I hadn’t heard of it before either but maybe I should have?

Cappuccino Wombat

Thanks for that, I’ve just had to empty my keyboard.

Original Takischitt Colour Chart (TCC03 : Not Framed)

ION,

…and so some things piss me off disproportionately.

I started a thread about this a little while ago.

Stuff that makes you disproportionately cross

Golf and white dress for sale …

Golf?  Gold, obviously…

I’m no graphic designer, but is that not why colours are referred to by code rather than some wooly description from ‘good housekeeping’ magazine?

And then the gloss level of the finish can impact the colour as well.

I love this one:

So, a colour, but one that isn’t green, then… Helpfull.

I seem to remember FORD having Loden Green as an option in the 1990s .

Valspar paint colours are equally daft..our bedroom is “veil of tears” or pale lilac in English.

They do a grey/green  called Bog Fog. I wanted it for the downstairs loo but was vetoed by my wife..

Lol at zippers chart!

The failure is thinking any colour on a screen matches the actual item/shade/colour in real life!

yep – every single screen will display colours differently – users settings (both on the device and the screen it is being output on if it is an external device), lighting conditions (the same screen in the same place on a different day at a different time will display colours differently). It is 100% impossible to calibrate an end-user’s device with the intended colours of the author.

our bedroom is “veil of tears”

Damn… that’s even more inappropriate than Bog-fog, is your wife trying to tell you something? 😉

Why don’t they just use RAL numbers to avoid ambiguity

Because RAL is a limited pallet, the names are translations from another language and often mean nothing to your customers, and the numbers mean even less to them. On top of that, you might aim to match a RAL colour but end up darker, lighter, less saturated or whatever and then someone in Germany will complain it doesn’t match their custom van (especially true if your item isn’t painted but dyed, printed, anodised or whatever).

Oh, and most humans like colour names. They’re fun.

Sounds like sir would benefit from visiting the shop in person.

Only way your going to get a true reflection of the colour.

Top advice.

Only way your going to get a true reflection of the colour.

I’d advise not going off of reflection of colour, to many other light sources can come into play. Super whitet LEDs at the cold end of the spectrum for example, in a show room will not look how it looks at home. Unless home is a surgical operating theatre?

Or you view the reflection in a pitch black room, but then you wouldn’t be able to see it.

Magnolia it is then (off the internet)

Bish bash bosh. Can’t go wrong.

And then the gloss level of the finish can impact the colour as well.

As I know only too well…

I once had to deal with a client who would not accept that the PMS colour he’d chosen for his company stationery looked slightly different on the various items because he’d chosen different boards and papers for envelopes, business cards, letterheads and compliment slips, etc.
He insisted, in fact demanded that we mix different batches of inks for each item so they all looked the same… 🤬

Magnolia it is then

Don’t do that, rookie error. Magnolia is like an off white stale milk colour, what you want is something a bit more fresh looking but not pure white.

what you want is something a bit more fresh looking but not pure white.

Based on your monitor,my monitor or even the op’s monitor ?

every single screen will display colours differently

Never mind displays, my left eye has a different colour balance to my right eye, by quite a bit. Very definitely cool white on the left and warm white on the right.

I once had to deal with a client who would not accept that the PMS colour he’d chosen for his company stationery looked slightly different on the various items because he’d chosen different boards and papers for envelopes, business cards, letterheads and compliment slips, etc.
He insisted, in fact demanded that we mix different batches of inks for each item so they all looked the same… 🤬

Or, in the days of Cromalin proofs, questioning why the colours on the uncoated stock they chose don’t match the very glossy proofs.

“veil of tears”

Only called that because someone in the marketing dept realised that Vale of Tears probably wouldnt be a roaring success.