Hope Vision 2 is upgradable

woohoo! daylight as the clocks go back this weekend!

Trout – I have emailed you so you have my email to send your address over.
Cheers

Just got it back. Thanks!
Sadly all my batteries are at home so I can’t test it.

A few shots of my hope 2 with a trout inside

low setting is almost on a par with the original high setting.

mid setting more than enough light for all ridding situations.

High setting this ones just silly

Another unexpected bonus is that the flash mode is far better than the original hope flash mode. A brighter a faster flash than before.

Can fully recommend the upgrade by Troutie, superb work bringing a much loved old light bang up to date.

Oh…. I want my enduro 4 upgraded damn it!!!!
I’m sure it’d give some amazing power.

Wonder if I should send them to work and see if they can upgrade it with some luxeons….

Shame I work in the wrong led industry!!!

I think they already have luxeons in the hopes.

Nice beamshots Parksie.

Mr trout
Sorry if Ive missed it but I have a single Hope Vision- is this upgradeable – plus are you able to change the conection/battery gubbins as I hate the little pin connectors with a passion!!

Pop Larkin

I have seen an empty hope single but have no idea what a full one is like

a straight led swap may be a goer .

might be a tad expensive to change all three connectors light / battery / charger but is doable .

The light output as a second light is not astounding but passable- however I tend to only get it it work 50% of the time which invariable means standing on a dark car park wiggling connections whilst the boys heckle me!!

Happy to send to you to play with as I have given up with it in its current form!

You can then give me a view on what is diable and a cost- let me know if interested

I think they may be trout, but we’ve just got some new versions of the rebels in work.
The guys want to have a play with it, but we deal with mains most of the time so I’m not sure what drivers they’d have to play with!!

Trout:

i’ve sent you a couple of recent e-mails about a dominator as a birthday present from my missus – can you have a look at your inbox for them?

ta

john

Will test this Wednesday evening with newly acquired Hope 4 Cell battery and see if it gets too hot and dims, but looking forward to running it on full power with out giving a hoot

Hi John found your mail and replied sorry for the delay

Mine has just arrived, a quick test in the office shows it is crazy bright compared to before. Just got to get me out in the dark now. And because it hasn’t changed externally it’s not obvious to the wife, superb!

Am out to play tonight & am hoping that my light will be on the door mat when I get home – it’s just like waiting for Xmas 🙂

Hi Trout,

Emailed you a couple of days ago to find out cost & timescale for upgrading my mark 1 Hope Twin LED light.

Might be in your junk folder?

Cheers, Paul

I am at the end of the drivers for this upgrade and cant order any more until mid November

If you have sent a light and not yet got it back apologies as I got a bit snowed under they will be in the post tomorrow for a Thursday delivery.

If you have emailed and not had a reply I will be getting back to you soon and making a list of those wanting the upgrade when I get some more parts
But I think it will be late November before I can do any more .

whats the upgrade cost? i gave my daughter my old hope leds

I think Trout should get an award.

Trout.
Is this your day job? If not how do you find time.?

You are obviously a very gifted individual.

10/10++

Wish I hadnt sold my old hope now.

SpecialKnees should be my other name as my day job is a flooring fitter .
but not a lot of work at the moment in the flooring game so have a fair bit of time to do these upgrades and keep busy .

Jedi seventy beer tokens

nice!! runs off to check her lights…………………

I’m in!

Superb upgrade i was looking at upgrading to new expensive lights but still liked the neat packaging of the old vision 2 with its stem mount.
This upgrade has given my old light a new lease of life and saved me a good amount of pennies over a new light.

Cant praise Chris enough for the excellent product and the service he’s providing.

OK I took my joystick apart, well, the rear end with the battery and driver anyway, I’ll post photos later. The front end is seriously glued on and not been able to get it free yet.

I’m keen to see what the upgrade potential is, mostly because after I had soldered it all back together, I was trimming the soldered ends and despite the LED not being on, shorted the outputs to the LED, spark and thats it dead, doh! Not too upset as my £12 DX torch is smaller and brighter, but its a good unit and will be good to see if can get an XML in there.

I’ll post photos later.

Finally rode in the dark with my mod’d lights last night. Only on the road going home, but they lit up the yard outside the office like daylight.

First proper off-road ride with them tonight. See if I can out-dazzle the boys with their magicshines…

thanks Trout!

BigJim

had a play with this old Joystick and found a bad thing for upgrading

They seem to use the forward voltage as a heat senser and dim the light if it gets warm , what wrong with that you may say ( I did )

well the old led has a VF of around 3.4 volts and as they get hotter the forward voltage comes down .

when I swopped the led for a XML which has a forward voltage of under 3 volts at the joystick drive current it came on brighter and then dimmed 😥

so its looking like to upgrade one it will need a new driver as well as a new led .
Space is very tight but am now looking at shoehorning the same Lflex driver I use for the hopes in .

I think the optic will work well with an XML .

ir_bandito it better out dazzle the Bastids

The good news is I have got hold of 6 more drivers for the Hopes so will mail the next six on the list and give them first refusal .

Trout, Just sent you an e-mail in relation to a Hope 2 upgrade. Thanks.

Interesting Trout, what version of the Joystick do you have there? I have the MkII which is a wee bit bigger than more recent versions – at least the centre diameter is as the holder I have is bigger than the new ones. I make the driver board 25mm according to a tape measure.

Here are some photos for anyone contemplating hacking one apart. Is that a protection circuit on the battery?:

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Just back.
Its brilliant!
Barely used high power, medium is fine for all but the steepest fastest stuff.

Many thanks!

Bigjim

Cant tell if its the same
the driver looks similar yes thats a battery protection circuit the one I have has no circuit on it

and another strange anomaly that through me a tad was at the led end
the red wire was negative and the blue wire was positive ❓
Whats that about then .

Glad you like it ir_bandito

Tested the Hope2 Evo-Trout last night on full power for the entire 2 1/2 hour ride and the light it puts out is good and doesn’t leave you wanting for more. However, in terms of tempreture it didn’t get hot in the wet wild winds of Cumbria and I reckon it could be juiced up a bit more One of Trout’s first posts upon building up the light was the units ability to take the power/heat from being run on high amps and I reckon (not that that means a fat lot)Mr Trout has been a little conservative on the power setting – at least for autumn and winter riding.

Troute,
Assuming that’s my joystick following our emails.. Your posts above are double Dutch to me, It looks to me like the driver needs replacing in addition to the led and space is tight, is that a fair summary!!

Camerone

yes it is your light
driver and led fine battery tired

hoping I can get a new led in with a new driver
I can fit a new battery ok

Nice one trout. If you manage to get the led and driver in I’ll be interested in giving it a bash too. The charge port will be a pain in the ass as the original driver has a hole in it to accommodate it.

I’m not sure where to find an 18650 with solder tags though, the torchythebattryboy guy said he might get some in on his ebay site mind you.

How did you get the bastard head end off? Have I just not been twisting it hard enough or is there a reverse thread or something daft?

Im sure Smudge http://www.mtbbatteries.co.uk will have some kicking around

Yes the driver will be a challenge more so as all the ones i have left are spoken for

the front was easy it just unscrewed normally it did have some sealant in there .

Trout-sounds good if a new driver can be squeezed in!

Ha, just discovered it seems to work again despite the spark and stopping working the other night, I have an XPG lying around so that might be an alternative if you can’t figure out a way with the lflex and xml

bigjim

Smudge would be my first port of call for the 18650 cell, i know smudge only uses top quality ones in his batteries. Messing about with Li-Ion cells is not a job i’d advise as they can explode if miss treated.

If you have no luck with smudge then these are available on eBay, i don’t know about the quality of Sanyo cells and have never purchased from that seller.

TroutVision2 received today.

Thankyou sir.

Looking forward to next Wed night 🙂

Hi yah.

Yes that’s the 1S protection circuit along the edge of the batttery. I have a few made up so anyone after any please email me.

Sanyo and Samsung are good cells, that’s if they really are them.

Is there no light you can turn your hand to 8)