Have we done stealing from Auschwitz yet?

When I saw the signs I did wonder who the hell would take something.

I’m not sure that all visitors appreciate how to behave in that kind of place really…there were people doing grinning selfies in front of soot covered cremation ovens.

Some school kids were climbing on a monument that’s near the destroyed gas chambers in Auschwitz 2.

There is also graffiti in the huts…going back decades though so not just kids of today.

then that’s different. they were told.

You mean you thought that they were under the impression that it was ok to help themselves to whatever they fancied ?

I think it’s self-evident that taking something which isn’t yours is theft, even for a not very bright 17 year old from a select private school.

kids picking stuff up off the ground is not a crime. Inappropriate perhaps, given the circumstances, but understandable (imho).

Would you feel the same way about kids collecting wreaths from war memorials for trophies?

There are signs saying taking anything from the site is a crime, as even the dirt is packed with bone fragments from the victims

http://www.etoncollege.com/userfiles/files/8%20KS%20Science%20section%201%20FINAL.pdf

AA, there you go the science scholarship paper before you get there. Kind of falsifies the type of car argument doesn’t it!

Twelve and thirteen year olds sit that paper.

There was a very interesting R4 segment with the current head of Eton, whose aim is to make Eton fee free within his tenure, if a kid is clever enough they get in, they get a spot. He believed he could do it as well.

He also mentioned that Eton have been offered several million before for a place and said no. He did mention that they might be a price but he hasn’t been tempted yet.

But lets not let that get in the way of a bit of inverse snobbery for those with a chip on their shoulder, eh?

Not just that, there is the direct accusation about the morals of those who choose to invest in their kids education!!!

Still could be worse, currently ploughing through Owen Jones diatribe against The Establishment as a holiday read. 😉

AA, there you go the science scholarship paper before you get there. Kind of falsifies the type of car argument doesn’t it!

Not really no. Just look at the educational background of those at oxbridge too.

Not just that, there is the direct accusation about the morals of those who choose to invest in their kids education!!!

Your morals are different from mine, this is not news.

ernie_lynch – Member
then that’s different. they were told.
You mean you thought that they were under the impression that it was ok to help themselves to whatever they fancied ?

I just thought it was a bit of a leap from:

A) picking up something that’s on the ground
To
B) ‘stealing whatever they fancied’

And now, even after finding out about the specific requests/warnings not to remove any items from the site, i’m still struggling to find much enthusiasm for pursuing the kind of response that would leave these kids with a criminal record.

Stupid kids yes, treat them as such.

Criminals?…

It’s why Cameron Blair/Milliband/(insert name of any other modern-day leading politician) is where he is, but you know that.

They all go to posh schools/universities, with a few exceptions.

I don’t think 17 year old boys have the imagination required to comprehend the holocaust by basically being asked to look at what basically amounts some old huts.

I bet if theyd been watching Schindler’s List on Imax they wouldn’t have picked anything up off the floor.

And now, even after finding out about the specific requests/warnings not to remove any items from the site, i’m still struggling to find much enthusiasm for pursuing the kind of response that would leave these kids with a criminal record.

Stupid kids yes, treat them as such.

Criminals?…
Taking items left in a mass grave site, which is being preserved to protect the memory, sound like theft to me or are you OK with taking what you want from graves?

when did i say i was ‘OK’ with their actions?

the words i think i used are “innappropriate” and “stupid”

It’s a day school, so what do you expect.

Had it been a boarding school….

£170 fine and a year’s probation, suspended for three years, doesn’t seem that inappropriate to me. The criminal record for theft is harsh, but they did steal items and were caught.

I’m not sure how this will impact future jobs, but they won’t be able to travel to the US, ever and they may want to avoid Israel as it might be interesting!

but they won’t be able to travel to the US, ever

Not entirely certain that’s correct. I think it means they will need to apply for a visa in advance (which, of course, may be denied).