[Closed] Have we done RSPCA being twunts yet?

There is no reason the RSPCA should be both a campaigning charity and a prosecutor.

http://www.countryside-alliance.org/ca/campaigns-hunting/our-submission-to-the-rspca-prosecutions-review

RSPCA put down suffering mangy cat?

"told the Daily Mail"

My sympathy waned.

The RSPCA are really really bad in my opinion )on reflection I have deleted a huge chunk of my professional experience of them)
Their was also the recent concern one of their experts was seizing healthy horses and the horses were then being passed on to RSPCA donors .
Not a charity I would ever donate to.

We were executers to a neighbours will (single old lady, no family), and the RSPCA were one of the charities she left money to. They were the rudest, least patient and most money grabbing group of people we've ever had to deal with. There was no element of sympathy in their dealings they just wanted their share fast and to the last penny.

Even the solicitor dealing with the will couldn't believe how many questions they raised to get their percentage, questioning every penny spent on funeral and clearing out costs.

I'd never give them anything ever again.

They've been twunts for years I'm afraid. We once went to rehome a border collie to give our existing border a bit of company. They told us flat out there was no point applying as they didn't rehome pets to our area on the cheap side of town. Fortunately I persuaded them otherwise when they saw our obedience and agility prize winning dog waiting in the car to have a run together with the RSPCA dog.

They are utter shits - as a family we have seen them fail to be interested in animal welfare and try to take someone's home from them.

I wouldn't piss in their collection tin.

no love for them here. Theyve gone from a much needed welfare organisation many years ago to a politically screwball "animal rights" organisation and really lost the plot.

I am immensely glad to see that others are coming round to this way of thinking. Bunch of Grade A shits.

Plus one for stoner and flashheart and I'm also glad people are beginning to wake up to this

Unfortunately it seems the RSPB and even amazingly (and I can't believe I'm typing this) the RNLI are going the same way too

money and power gone to their heads by the sound of it.

they do sound like a huge bunch of arses tbh.

I agree with Cranberry, reported cruelty to dog - never heard a thing from them

I honestly thought that they were a respectable charity. I have never had to deal with them, and given the comments above I'd think twice. Why the polarised views?

Hmmmmm!! The RSPCA performed very badly here. I have no experience of them in action so I can't comment from personal experience. However, this does raise the ethical question of keeping pets alive beyond what is good for the pet.

When it gets to the point where an unhealthy pet is suffering unnecessarily, it should be let go, regardless of how important it is to the owners. Now that I am speaking from experience.

Used to donate to them believing that they were interested in animal welfare.

Soon became apparent that they are a financially motivated, politically minded, urban focused animal rights organisation.

The phone call when I cancelled their direct debit was a hoot!

Agree that the RSPB are on the edge of the same slippery slope. Happy to support the RNLI still, criminal that their work is not government funded.

I have to listen to my partners weekly horror stories regarding these useless responsibility shirkers.

The things they turn a blind eye to makes me think they are purely a money making machine with the odd bit of compulsory animal care thinly veiled as their main concern.

Its a shame really as there is undoubtedly a requirement for genuinely effective policing of animal related ****tery in this country.

I wouldnt go near them. Pdsa yes but the rspca seem to be revenue/exposure angled.

MCTD - I think you would be surprised where the RNLI are focusing their efforts these days - and how much clout they have in certain areas. I say this as an avid sea sailor and kayaker who has supported the institution for decades and has family members as volunteer lifeboat crew

perhaps its indicative of the charity commission not standing up to their role to policy the third sector effectively.

The politicisation of charities is the quickest route to their irrelevance

the RNLI are going the same way too

The RNLI are a funny one.

I have been told first hand by fishermen, who used to be the vast majority of the crews, that they left as the RNLI preferred to use "ordinary" people as crew, as the publicity of a school teacher/hairdresser/barmen rescuing someone gave much better publicity than some hardened "old sea dog" doing it.

They also have massive revenue and seem to have money to burn.

I still give money and they also build some fantastic boats.

Mind you, everyone I know working in child protection hates the NSPCC with a passion, seems to be a theme emerging....

For balance,

I can't comment on them as an organisation, at an enterprise level they may be a shower, but if there are problems at the top then it doesn't reflect at the bottom IME. I've worked in a few branches (they're one of our customers at work) and without exception every single person I've met has been professional, lovely, and utterly dedicated to animal welfare above and beyond the call of duty.

Why the polarised views?

Twice my father had reason to report animal cruelty to the RSPCA, in both incidents it was people staying in a travellers camp near their office. In the first incident a horse was being punched and kicked. My dad was informed over the phone that "gypsies do not abuse their animals" and that the RSPCA would not investigate, no matter what. In the second incident a horse was on a tether next to a dual carriageway - the tether was long enough to allow the horse to walk over to the central reservation. My dad reported this as if a car/truck had hit the tether the horse would have lost its head. The RSPCA told the horse's owner who had reported the matter and my dad was threatened with having his business firebombed.

Furthermore, [url= http://www.ourdogs.co.uk/News/2010/Feb2010/News120210/rspca.htm ]this [/url]was pretty local to me.

I found a large African Parrott in a area full of cats. Rang them- call the RSPB' why? Cos its nowt to do with us.

****s. RSPB dont offer the same service- they do conservation.

Same again - Swans nest on Manchester canal path. Right in the middle of it. Nope/sorry two days later it was in the manchester evening news- Staff killed nesting swan.

Ditto a Westie wandering. I rang em- not us/call the stray dogs.

Fine. I can see all they do is rspca vet centres and cherry pick prosecutions.

I once drove over the Dartford crossing behind an RSPCA van watching the driver throw kittens out the window.

This may not have really happened.

I once drove over the Dartford crossing behind an RSPCA van watching the driver throw kittens out the window.

How did you think we managed to have so many wheel size threads?

****in kitten-sized holes in my windscreen

Dartford

sure it wasnt Catford?

You were throwing cats in a ford? You animal, I've a good mind to call the RSPCNLI

You were throwing cats in a ford?

No, it was [i][b]from[/b][/i] a [i][b]Ford[/b][/i].

The RSPCA is an English and Welsh only charity, wish more people in Scotland knew that as they advertise and receive donations from here much to the annoyance of the SSPCA.

I once read that the RNLI was the most effective fundraiser of all charities, and were so efficient at collections they had enough in reserve to survive for over a decade.

Family and friends have worked (and all been screwed over) by the RSPCA, head office not far from hometown.

The change seemed to happen when a reorganisation brought in directors/senior managers with more 'commercial' sensibilities than charitable, if you know what I mean.

Had a girlfriend once who worked for them, i was quite concerned as the relationship progressed when i realised that instead of any sort of animal protection or preservation, she used to needle everything.
The back of her van almost always had some sort of poor dead creature in there that had been unfortunate enough to cross her path..

I was under the impression that as a charity they're only allowed to retain a couple of years running costs in the bank, so they spend what they can otherwise they lose it??

Her training sounded amazing, fire arms, high speed boats, no expence spared..

PDSA good. Dogs Trust good. Stopped donating to RNLI. All our giving goes to Surfers Against Sewage, Catharine House who provide end of life care at home and
...wait for it, keyboards ready...Oxfam.

Her training sounded amazing, fire arms, high speed boats, no expence spared

RSPCA or Miami Vice?

RSPCA or Miami Vice?

Meowaii Five-0.

I found a large African Parrott in a area full of cats. Rang them- call the [b]RSPB[/b]' why? Cos its nowt to do with us.

****. [b]RSPB[/b] dont offer the same service- they do conservation.

Same again - Swans nest on Manchester canal path. Right in the middle of it. Nope/sorry two days later it was in the manchester evening news- Staff killed nesting swan.

Ditto a [b]Westie[/b] wandering. I rang em- not us/call the stray dogs.

To be fair to the RSPB, dogs aren't birds.

Winston, could you elaborate on your RNLI experiences?
Thanks
Alan.

I was under the impression that as a charity they're only allowed to retain a couple of years running costs in the bank, so they spend what they can otherwise they lose it??

How would that work?

I don't know (i'm not an accountant) it was something she said, hence the ? at the end of my sentence..

Could be something to do with this though-
https://www.gov.uk/charity-financial-reserves

http://www.countryside-alliance.org/ca/campaigns-hunting/our-submission-to-the-rspca-prosecutions-review

I knew there was a reason why I liked the RSPCA.

The RSPCA do birds too badly they in one case could not correctly identify how a healthy fledgeling would look so prosecuted for neglect for its perfectly normal appearance , did not know that the chicks did not urinate so again neglect for being stood over a tray full of clean water that they said was its own urine and allowed what had been a perfectly healthy and very expensive bird to die in their care through neglect by them ( they did not prosecute themselves for that though)

Twunts of the highest order, spending hundred of thousands of pounds of donations pursuing purely political agendas.

I've donated to dogs trust in preference to RSPCA every time. They seem more focussed on actually helping animals that need it and less on political ends.

Twunts of the highest order, spending hundred of thousands of pounds [b]donated by well meaning people who think that their money will be going on genuine animal welfare causes[/b] [s]of donations[/s] pursuing purely political agendas.

Twunts of the highest order, spending hundred of thousands of pounds donated by well meaning people who think that their money will be going on genuine animal welfare causes [s]of donations[/s] [b]rather than[/b] pursuing purely political agendas.

Does that make it clearer? I've confused my self now.

I don't like the way they refer to themselves as 'Inspectors' or 'Officers' and wear those navy blue jerseys with epaulettes, like they're Police or Army.

I live in Rural Derbyshire, no one here has any time for them, they opened a charity shop in the town which was later closed; apparently little interest (The whinging statement they made to the local rag about how the town doesn't care about animals etc got a lot of people's backs up as well)

Round this way, the RNLI and RSPCA winter balls are very grand affairs. Lords Lieutenant with medals, swords and chains swaggering about the place. Worth every penny of our donations I'd say.

I once drove over the Dartford crossing behind an RSPCA van watching the driver throw kittens out the window.

What were you doing?
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Well i'm quite happy to keep donating a paltry £3 a month to the RSPB if it helps with this stuff...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-29454939

I've had no personal experience of RSPCA issues so can't comment.

RSPCA not to be confused with the SSPCA who I only have good things to say about in my limited experience of them.

I love watching buzzards, but they're getting very plentiful. I'm not sure that killing 10 of them to protect your flock of pheasants is a lot different from killing 10 chickens to sell for eating.

But it's always puzzled me why so many people rush to the seaside after an oil spill and subject terrified seabirds to a rough scrubbing in fairy liquid when you can nip down the road to the butcher and buy a nicely prepared wild duck for about a fiver.

Not a big fan of the rspca. The pdsa, despite their best intentions, are generally abused by people with their brand new pedigree puppy that they have bought at great expense knowing that it will cost them nothing in vets fees to look after. Don't get me wrong, you do get little old ladies with their little old dogs who deserve the support but the scroungers put me right off!

I love watching buzzards, but they're getting very plentiful. I'm not sure that killing 10 of them to protect your flock of pheasants is a lot different from killing 10 chickens to sell for eating.

Cos it was indiscriminate, that bloke was targeting anything that goes for game birds & he wouldn't have given a toss if it was a marsh harrier or a goshawk.

There was a story circulating the news sites a few years ago about RSPCA members who questioned where money was being spent and found themselves rapidly on the outside.

From the ferret rescuing I've been involved in, I've heard of the RSPCA telling people that they are a wild animal so don't worry about them!!(Massively incorrect).

A work colleague wanted a rescue dog for the family so after doing the full RSPCA home inspection bit and jumping through loads of hoops was allowed to re-home a dog the was not good with children and not house trained (something he stipulated). The RSPCA then got stroppy when the dog was taken back and flatly refused to refund the "donation" he had paid towards the dogs neutering.

I found a bird of prey on the trail, clearly ill/injured and phoned the RSPCA to rescue it. "What's your postcode?" was all the poor girl at the RSPCA could ask. After patiently explaining where I was and that I could provide a grid reference but no postcode was rudely informed that they wouldn't come out without a postcode?!!

Hedge fund masquerading as a charity!

The RNLI haven't exactly covered themselves in glory either.

Alan - no, not on a public forum. Lets just say that I would rather have the boys in the boats than not have them.

But if people really want their donations to count then Coas****ch ( http://www.nci.org.uk/) needs your cash!

[i]I'm not sure that killing 10 of them to protect your flock of pheasants is a lot different from killing 10 chickens to sell for eating.[/i]

Personally I would avoid eating a chicken that's been poisoned by use of an illegal outdated pesticide.

A chacun son gout, as they say. It might have a novel taste.

I'd be very interested to hear why people say at the RSPB are going the same way as the RSPCA.

I once visited the RSPCA HQ, you can't swing a cat in there

I think the RSPB's public persona and the actual work they do on the ground are somewhat divergent

Down on the ground they are pretty pragmatic, not afraid to control predators or deer, manage their land well and work in pretty good cooperation with other landowners and organisations like the GCT, very impressive

On the other hand, their public persona and appeal to the fluffy bunny brigade concerns me, to their credit they don't deny things like fox control, but they don't go out of their way to educate their members on these issues or to scratch beyond the surface of the autumn watch crowd and discuss the complexity of issues in an adult manner, or to discuss their work with others in that light (grey partridge conservation for example)

I thought that the '90p in every pound goes on our conservation work' pledge was very disingenuous as it turns out they calculate that after subtracting the 26p they spend on fundraising, that felt really bad to be honest.

rSPCA on the other hand have always been a bunch of twunts, seem to have screwed over a lot of their local rescue places to pay for the shiny offices as well.

Just for balance, when our "lovely" neighbour accused my wife of hurting one of her many cats, the RSPCA person called by the neighbour was very reasonable and sensible as were the local police and PCSO. They concluded that said moggy had probably been hit be a car.

The only twunts were the local rag who printed a story without checking facts.

Very good timba 😀

Or Tim Vine's just blown his cover...

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