I have an EM2( ribble) frame which is ok, very light. They are ok frames, the trainers have slightly wierd geometry.Don't ask them to build you a bike as they don't have the best reputation for delivery times. A few years ago they were truly truly awful, they then improved greatly but recently I have heard a few grumbles again about slow delivery not answering calls etc. They used to have a shop which was okay but apparently they have closed that to concentrate on mail order. It might be worth giving them a ring as they used to sell some cheap frames which were slight seconds ( decals or poor paint finish or shop soiled) you could pick up a bargain that way.