Gary Lineker big brass balls?

and JP nails it as usual

I’ve not clicked the link I saw but it would appear Farage has criticised Lineker for encouraging hatred…..

towards home secretaries ?

towards home secretaries ?

Yup, and “senior figures in government”. According to Nigel Farage Gary Lineker compared them to “Goebbels and the gang” which Farage claims amounts to hate speech.

Maybe Nigel Farage is a bit miffed that the Tories were alledgedly compared to the Nazis because he likes to see himself as standard bearer for the far-right?

Standard beerer more like.

Then you’re doing so illegally, you need a licence.

Apart from the fact I have a license which I have to have legally to watch the live TV with adverts which is my point that you completely missed.

The BBC license isn’t the story FFS. cruelty and political censorship through abuse of soft power is.

Well said May.

Well said May.

Meaningless. She still voted for it!

FFS !

🤦🏻‍♂️

Well it was an enlightening evening in the pub last night.
In our ‘discussion’ about Mr Lineker’s tweet we discovered that . . .
a, R thinks Farage makes some ‘interesting’ points
b, C watches GB News, and
c, M looks vacant and dribbles – all three were fervently anti Lineker.
Plus there were two abstentions, so it was left to me to fly the flag.
If that’s indicative of British society then we might as well give up now.

Why are you paying towards it? For others to watch. Just like others are paying towards things you use. I don’t watch football either, or Eastenders… but I also don’t travel on the M25, haven’t yet had cancer treatment… etc, etc.

Big difference between M25/HS2, fire brigade and showing some sport.

haven’t yet had cancer treatment… etc, etc

The two are not even in the same ballpark….

What if we cancelled MOTD and the money was used to treat a single cancer patient? (or lots of things we actually need like access to a GP, feeding kids etc.)
I know Gary gets the £1.35M for however many MOTD per year but presumably that’s the tip of the iceberg as to what it costs per episode?

Cougar

Do you use the fire brigade?

Very few people I suspect are going to watch their house burn down and think investing in MOTD over putting money into the Fire Brigade was a good idea?

If that’s indicative of British society then we might as well give up now.

A snap poll showed a clear majority supporting Lineker.

Guess who’s decided petrol’s a good way to let this fire die down. Depressingly predictable

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/mar/15/gary-lineker-false-claim-i-called-northern-voters-racist-is-dangerous

He’ll stir it up at all opportunities… the press don’t have to be so willing to help him though… there are hundreds of other MPs whose words they could cover. It’s the same old nonsense though… call out politicians for their campaigning methods, policies and language… and be tarred with attacking those who might possibly support them. But it works.

No he hasn’t and never would. This is outrageous and dangerously provocative. https://t.co/56kEVyWAGf

— Gary Lineker (@GaryLineker) March 14, 2023

Well said May.

So a Tory MP calls out a proposed bill in the HoC but then still votes for it, what real good has it done?

Gullis is projecting, and basically admitting to being a Nazi Bigot 🤣

what real good has it done?

Very little. My “FFS” was aimed at my own comment, for praising her… only to then be updated by you that she voted for it anyway! I hit the big like button next to your post, but it doesn’t tell you who did that, does it… sorry, I should have thanked you and been clearer. She should have voted against, given her correct assessment (in my eyes) of the bill. She made her words hollow with her voting actions.

Gullis is projecting, and basically admitting to being a Nazi Bigot 🤣

I think that would involve a level of lucidity that Gullis is completely incapable of

The best part about Gullis being an MP is that he’s no longer a teacher, which must’ve been a staggeringly rough prospect for the poor kids he’s ‘taught’.

My “FFS” was aimed at my own comment, for praising her… only to then be updated by you that she voted for it anyway!

Thanks for clearing that up. However, I was incorrect, she didn’t vote for it but abstained.

Which is still pretty shitty.

Better though. Thanks for the further update.

Big difference between M25/HS2, fire brigade and showing some sport.

Is there though?

Take the M25, what’s the point of it?

No M25:
-We all grow potatoes in our own fields and live a subsistence lifestyle.

M25:
-We go to work, do a small division of the overall economy’s labor. Go home again and eat the potatoes someone else grew in a field.

Collectively we’ve decide that to make option 2 both workable bearable then alongside primary and secondary industry there needs to be seemingly useless things like bike manufacturers and creative stuff, using creative in the very broad sense of everything from watching someone play football to watching someone act Shakespeare.

Without MTOD (and bikes, and Shakespeare) it’s entirely possible your straw man cancer doctor would give up and go grow his own potatoes.

If that’s indicative of British society then we might as well give up now.

I gave up on it in 1979.

Meaningless. She still voted for it!

It’s a game of two halves though. Just an early move. The real votes come later.

Apart from the fact I have a license which I have to have legally to watch the live TV with adverts which is my point that you completely missed.

Sincere apologies, I thought you’d said the opposite.

Very few people I suspect are going to watch their house burn down and think investing in MOTD over putting money into the Fire Brigade was a good idea?

You say that but, this is a country that rang 999 when KFC ran out of chicken.

It’s a game of two halves though. Just an early move. The real votes come later.

I agree, it is still uncertain whether this bill will survive. And abstention actually sends quite a powerful message, especially when it means that you are refusing to support your own party’s policies. Plus if there are sufficient Tory abstentions the bill will be defeated.

thisisnotaspoon

Big difference between M25/HS2, fire brigade and showing some sport.

Is there though?

Take the M25, what’s the point of it?

No M25:
-We all grow potatoes in our own fields and live a subsistence lifestyle.

M25:
-We go to work, do a small division of the overall economy’s labor. Go home again and eat the potatoes someone else grew in a field.

Collectively we’ve decide that to make option 2 both workable bearable then alongside primary and secondary industry there needs to be seemingly useless things like bike manufacturers and creative stuff, using creative in the very broad sense of everything from watching someone play football to watching someone act Shakespeare.

Without MTOD (and bikes, and Shakespeare) it’s entirely possible your straw man cancer doctor would give up and go grow his own potatoes.

As someone who grows their own potatoes (and lots more) and hates the M25 I think that just highlights the difference.
I’m still eating beans grown from beans delivered on infrastructure and a load of them are still in the freezer (delivered by infrastructure) powered by electricity

I personally have no interest in doing this but without MOTD I can still walk to my local football club (several) and watch a football match (if watching a football match is somehow more creative than actually playing).
I honestly struggle to see how just broadcasting some deserving lower league match doesn’t provide the same thing as MOTD.. and why these obscene sums are applicable to football not for example hockey or basketball?

I can also walk to the theatre which at the moment isn’t Shakespeare but Rocky Horror though I’m sure some will come on or the library I’m almost certain has some Shakespeare.
To equate that to football MOTD I’m all for helping fund the local sports fields/halls, library and theatres as long as they cater for a wide variety of people… If the theatre want to exclusively show Tim Price or exclusively Shakespeare they seem to be failing that wide variety.
The theatre might equate to “The BBC” ..

I can also walk (or cycle) to the Bike company made either my HT or FS frames though perhaps that’s less common but both required an infrastructure to get the bikes made and delivered.

Standard beerer more like.

Close but no cigar.

Standartenführer if we’re going full Godwin.

Good points Tired & Ernielynch, thanks.

Watch the Theresa May clip folks… it’s short yet covers many of the points very well.

[ EDIT: and is, unusually for a politician perhaps, genuinely “very clear” ]

I think Linekers lawyers should be reviewing the red wall Nazis comment. He didn’t even call the government Nazis (directly). If that’s not very publicly retracted, it will come back and bite us.

We have a young blinkered Tory in the office, very little real world experience/knowledge outside his comfortable middle class upbringing in one of Nottinghams most affluent areas (similar to me at that age, tbf). He felt Lineker should resign.

I queried why he was more upset by Lineker flirting with breaking BBC impartiality guidelines rather than the UK government boasting about flirting with breaking international human rights laws.

He couldn’t answer, so i went back to my tofu sandwich while browsing the Guardian online.

MCTD – yes, agree that Lineker’s lawyers should be reviewing gullis’s comments; slander?
Demand a public retraction and apology; donation to refugee charity?
gullis’s comments are not protected by parliamentary privilege as he wasn’t in the house when he opined.
Go for it Gary.

gullis’s comments are not protected by parliamentary privilege as he wasn’t in the house when he opined

You’d think it would be a good thing if politicians that deliberately slander people were forced to resign…

Gary’s lawyers should go for Gullis’ jugular, for that rubbish said outside parliamentary privilege.

He’s probably just trying to bait Lineker into trying to report him. Then it’s the whole ‘hypocrite snowflake doesn’t like it when it happens to him’ dogwhistle routine.
His voters will lap it all up, regardless.

May can **** off with her grandstanding. She was just as bad as this lot.

He’s probably just trying to bait Lineker into trying to report him. Then it’s the whole ‘hypocrite snowflake doesn’t like it when it happens to him’ dogwhistle routine.
His voters will lap it all up, regardless.

I accept that’s a risk.

But Lineker didn’t lie and slander anyone, he drew a fair historical comparison.

We need to call out and challenge lies and misinformation. Idiots will still be idiots, but they need to be made to understand that lies have consequences.

It would be a tough ride. But not addressing these kind of comments is kind of what Lineker was warning about in that original tweet

We need to call out and challenge lies and misinformation. Idiots will still be idiots, but they need to be made to understand that lies have consequences.

This is a huge problem in our current media landscape. Lies are allowed to fly in the name of “impartiality” and “balance”.