Formula 1 2024 – WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS

From a purely selfish point of view, a Red Bull team in turmoil can only be a good thing for the season.

Is it just me, or is there nothing in Christian Horner’s statement that explicitly denies that those messages are real?

He certainly hasn’t come out and said “these are fake”

Horner reiterates denial after alleged messages leak – https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/68440269

All this malarkey and no one has mentioned Mercedes were fastest in FP2

Maybe the season isn’t over just yet!

If someone had published a load of fake messages that were supposed to be from me, including what are supposed to be pictures of my D, I would be pretty quick to point out exactly what I thought about that

Dunno, having read some of them (I’ve no desire to go digging for more and find his naked selfies) I’d suspect they’re real*, but selective. If there was a physical affair then they’ve been selected to look like he was doing 100% of it. If there wasn’t a physical affair then it’s selected to make it look like he was chasing for one and /or there was one.

Not victim blaming, at the very least they look to me like they should be grounds for his dismissal for gross misconduct due to some level of controlling/coercion. Just that I’d bet there’s a lot that hasn’t been leaked. Otherwise it’d be 10’s of complaints that he was a creep, not one complaint where he’s pursued it and got what he wanted. I don’t blame them for not publishing details of their personal life, I’m just reading them with the assumption they’re the tip of a seedy iceberg.

*If it was faked, the messages would be way more incriminating.

Ted Kravitz has just said that Horner is in a meeting with Mohammed Ben Sulayem, hence him not being on the pit wall.

He’s back on the pit wall.

Radio 5 said he was on the pitwall…

He’s just walked back.

Probably had a pat on the back and a “we’ll look after you” meeting.

would he rather be home with Livid Spice?

If he does get the elbow, who is likely to replace him? I’m not all that read up on the internal politics of the teams

All this malarkey and no one has mentioned Mercedes were fastest in FP2

oh look a (sexy) squirrel!

nice and close in fp3, but this is still miles off last years pole (1:29.7)

He must have very thick skin and able to suck up so much pressure for the amount of folk baying for blood even on here

He might have a card up his sleeve to play drs and hit back with the much more serious blackmail charge, you’d think someone might have tried it on before it all seems to have come out

Once a month then News of the world was famed for this

Horner is in a meeting with Mohammed Ben Sulayem

Promotion to the role of FiA women’s ambassador incoming?

If he does get the elbow, who is likely to replace him? I’m not all that read up on the internal politics of the teams

The usual answer would be the head of the engineering, because organizations still believe that good engineers make good managers, but only because they insist on putting engineers a step below managers both on the org chart and the pay scale. But I don’t think Newey wants that?

If he does get the elbow, who is likely to replace him?

I don’t know but I think she’d be quite high maintnenace – always telling you what she really really wants

Jonathan Wheatley’s name is the one being mentioned if Horner does go.

https://www.redbullracing.com/int-en/drivers/jonathan-wheatley

For some reason I just can’t imagine Adrian Newey taking that role, he just gives the impression that he loves the engineering and doesn’t fancy putting up with all the bs you would have heading your way as team principle

I don’t think Newey would have the slightest interest.

doesn’t fancy putting up with all the bs you would have heading your way as team principle

F1 teams don’t have principles, it’s the team principals’ job to ensure that.

“F1 teams don’t have principles, it’s the team principals’ job to ensure that.”

Very good

Yeah I read that Wheatley was in the frame

He’s not going anywhere though is he! Livid Spice has just landed in Bahrain.

It might depend on what the FIA think…..they have the power to ban him from F1 if they think he’s bringing the sport into disrepute….tho they’d have to be 100% sure those are his texts to do that.

(And I still don’t think they are 😁)

It might depend on what the FIA think…..they have the power to ban him from F1 if they think he’s bringing the sport into disrepute….tho they’d have to be 100% sure those are his texts to do that.

Was Max Mosley banned from F1 for bringing the sport into disrepute? I don’t like Horner, but there don’t seem to be criminal charges filed and the team let him keep his job after investigating. If the FIA ban him over this, it’ll lead to endless cases of teams arguing for other teams’ staff to be banned because of rumours of screwing around. Time to move on.

On the other hand if you are an employee who constantly receives the unwanted attentions of someone in authority it’s not a great situation is it?

Especially if its all hushed up.

Max Moseley was a very different era though – times have changed. The only people I can see who will see him hoofed out is Ford.

it’ll lead to endless cases of teams arguing for other teams’ staff to be banned because of rumours of screwing around. Time to move on.

No, the solution to that problem is for men* in positions of power  to screw arroud with their subordinates.

And what’s really needed is the people in positions of power (i.e. other team bosses) to call it out!

*I can’t imagine this being a problem at Williams somehow

I’m excited for this, a lot more than last year

If that isn’t Horner’s willy in that* pic then it would be pretty easy for him to prove his innocence…

*I haven’t seen the pic, I’m getting all my gossip from this thread.

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If that isn’t Horner’s willy in that* pic then it would be pretty easy for him to prove his innocence…

*I haven’t seen the pic, I’m getting all my gossip from this thread.

Sorry to disappoint but apparently its a very strange photo of a finger, I kid you not. Must admit i didn’t give it the closest inspection…

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If that isn’t Horner’s willy in that* pic then it would be pretty easy for him to prove his innocence…

*I haven’t seen the pic, I’m getting all my gossip from this thread.

I’m excited for this, a lot more than last year

I cant wait for the post race interviews where someone will ask Horner if he’s had a blast in Bahrain.

Was Max Mosley banned from F1 for bringing the sport into disrepute?

Consenting adults, gross breach of his right to a private life, stood down the following year at the end of his fourth term.

Alpine, el pain

Only 1 second from P1 to P20!

Haas looking to follow the same as last year. Out the blocks with fast quali pace, maybe grab a few P10s, then it all goes to pot after the halfway point of the season

Ferrari within touching distance during qualifying at least