Formula 1 2024 – WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS

It’s I suppose a continuation of him saying ‘business as usual’ that he denies the allegations and he wants to continue with his job.

Money for the flight isn’t an issue for Horner and he’ll have been advise to assume innocence.  So yeah, it’s BAU from him until he’s told otherwise.

The aircraft has left Graz after picking up Marko I assume and is now on the way to Bahrain.

there’s someone else on Twitter stalking him like that…or maybe it’s you 🙂

Have we done the Toto and George love-in?? 🙂

Not sure how often you all stay at your bosses house, but it seems George was staying over when Lewis went to tell Toto about his move to Ferrari. Bearing in mind Toto thought this was going to be a box-ticking re-signing meeting why was George there anyway?

Lewis is so going to be shut out of every important meeting this season! 🙂

“Lewis is so going to be shut out of every important meeting this season! 🙂”

Definitely. I was trying to think of other times when a driver starts a season having already sighed to another team. I can’t think of any!

I’m not so sure, any points that Hamilton gets are constructor’s point for the team, its not in their interests to hold him back, Russel, for all that he’s a very fast driver is nothing like as good as Hamilton. He’s still their best chance of a win Besides, I think Mercedes have probably already privately accepted that Ferrari have stolen a march on them for ’24. There’s probs. little that Hamilton can tell Ferrari in a years time that will make any noticeable difference

RickDraper

The aircraft has left Graz after picking up Marko I assume and is now on the way to Bahrain.

Is it gonna be like Reacher Series 2, where Marko just chucks him out of the plane like a supervillain!?

Alonso signed for someone and still raced another year for someone else….Benetton to McLaren?

Personally i find it hard to believe that RB would be so incompetent/ruthless to let Horner go to Bahrain and then sack him by phone….

Perhaps the email they sent went to his Junk folder….

It was Renault to McLaren for Alsonso, he signed for McLaren between 2005 and 2006, but still won the title in 2006 for Renault before he moved
So you were close with Benneton, you just forgot what they were called that week🤣

Anyone know when Russell knew he was replacing Bottas? It kept getting talked about, he had been promised the seat, but when was it made official?

Yeah I sort of suspected it wasn’t Benetton but didn’t have the energy to google it 😂

nickc

Russel, for all that he’s a very fast driver is nothing like as good as Hamilton. He’s still their best chance of a win

My gut feel is that he sits at the top table with verstappen, alonso, hamilton, and probably norris and leclerc. Hard to say since he’s not been in a front running car over a season.

I think though if you put any of those against each other in last years red bull or the merc w11, they’d be very close.

Loadsnof tweets along these lines..no idea of their veracity

“LATEST: Christian Horner is set to be cleared of inappropriate behavour later today.

Based on information from @thetimes and @KymIllman this will be confirmed around 5pm UK time. How it affects his place in the team (if at all) is not clear.

We will update when availablel

Hamiltons interviewed to the subtle point that the outcome must equate to fairness and equality in the sport.

Ok then….

I think though if you put any of those against each other in last years red bull or the merc w11, they’d be very close.

There was a  race last year (I want to say Brazil, but I don’t think it was) where Russell was a place ahead, and Hamilton was jonesing to get the team to let him past, when they did (let Hamilton through) he put something like about a second and a half on Russel in a lap and bit after his tyres had had laps and laps of being in Russell’s dirty air.  Even during the race Russell was questioning it, asking if Hamilton had access to special engine settings. At the driver media round a very sheepish Russell was saying “I guess that’s why he’s a seven times world champion..”

I think he’s a very very fast driver, but they all are. I think Hamilton and Verstappen, and maybe Alonso are in a class of their own

Russell – he might be qualified to serve the top table, I wouldn’t seat him at it yet! 🙂

It’ll be interesting to see if Ford and F1 consider the process to be transparent. I imagine they’ll say that to protect the privacy of the people involved blah blah blah

Nothing to see here: Red Bull GmbH said: “The independent investigation into the allegations made against Mr Horner is complete, and Red Bull can confirm that the grievance has been dismissed. The complainant has a right of appeal. Red Bull is confident that the investigation has been fair, rigorous and impartial. The investigation report is confidential and contains the private information of the parties and third parties who assisted in the investigation, and therefore we will not be commenting further out of respect for all concerned. Red Bull will continue striving to meet the highest workplace standards.”

“Anyone know when Russell knew he was replacing Bottas? It kept getting talked about, he had been promised the seat, but when was it made official?”

2020 wasn’t it, Russell stood in for Hamilton due to Covid, and he trounced Bottas in both races.

Horner has been cleared then… Surprised? A bit to be honest!

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Russell – he might be qualified to serve the top table, I wouldn’t seat him at it yet! 🙂

Not like Hamilton hasn’t also had the odd moment… 😉

Nothing to see here:

Everyone is going to interpret this according to their own preconceptions. For me, as much as I dislike Horner & I understand the influence a powerful man can have in an organisation, I think I will take it on face value. Would Red Bull sweep it under the carpet with all the sponsors/commercial partners looking on? Especially since it has been framed as a power struggle within RB, if there was a case to answer I get the impression Horner’s enemies within the company would take full advantage.

Surprised? A bit to be honest!

Why is that? you obviously have the full facts at your disposal. Please share them then.

@bruneep fair comment! Just an opinion based purely on media speculation! From what journalists seemed to be saying about the an allegations that apparently everyone in the paddock knew, it appeared a strong case. But that was wrong…

I hope someone asks, on live TV, ‘How’s your week been?’

Not like Hamilton hasn’t also had the odd moment… 😉

Difference between a great and a numpty – Hamilton puts the other guy in the wall, not himself!! 🙂 😜

Leaked report incoming in 5..4..3..2…

Can anyone check if brown envelopes full of hush-hush money are counted in the cost cap?

Meh, where’s there’s smokes there’s fire. The allegation was made with legal advice so someone thought it was real at one point.

Anyway, moving on…

The allegation was made with legal advice

No Win No Fee?

Karen’s smugness level this weekend!… 😱

So can we get back to discussing who REALLY won in 2021?

I agree we have to take it at face value, but also agree somewhat with “there’s no smoke etc”.

I suspect it will never go away and will always follow him around….and more details will eventually leak out

More importantly: where’s Horner’s plane at the moment?

More importantly: where’s Horner’s plane at the moment?

Is this it?

Meh, where’s there’s smokes there’s fire.

What allegation and rumour should we start circulating about you?

What allegation and rumour should we start circulating about you?

both his dogs are Bichon Frise, one called Tibbert the other, Flaps

Kinda not seeing the transparency that’s been called for. Wonder if there’ll be an appeal?

What allegation and rumour should we start circulating about you?

Its all there in the annals of STW, feel free to regurgitate, you won’t shock anyone who’s been regular here for a while.