- EDL in Birmingham Today
While it may be true that we have not managed immigration into the UK very successfully in the past, those that take this as a reason to argue, “no more immigration” should be careful what they wish for.
As was the case in Germany before, our demographics will ultimately require us to increase levels of immigration otherwise our fiscal nightmare will be even worse. Bottom line, the UK needs more immigrants not less if it is going to cope economically.
The case was made quite clearly this week by the OBR in their latest Fiscal Sustainability Report, not that I would expect this to be bedtime reading for most of the EDL’s membership!Posted 4 years ago
neilferther – Member
Dazh: I have some news for you. In the past few years, millions of immigrants have made their homes in this country. Millions of them.
Nope. Total immigration was around 500000 last year, a figure which despite what you may think is falling (and not because it’s the tories in power incidentally; it’s been gently falling for years- there was a headline grabbing drop this year but it’s not going to be sustained as it was mostly students, in a few years time there’ll be a corresponding drop in emigration.)
People get very confused on this because they see stats for total immigration, and forget to deduct total emigration. Most people that come to the UK don’t stay forever. For example, students, who are the single biggest immigrant group, make up 2/5ths of all immigrants and whose visas are specifically for study- the majority leave after their studies, having paid sackfulls of cash to the UK universities.
So once you deduct the 350000 people who left, you have net immigration of around 150000. Obviously this doesn’t give you your “millions” in the last few years, even if you say it twice.
neilferther – Member
I used the example of the school to make a point
Pro tip- It is better to use examples which aren’t made up when trying to prove a point.Posted 4 years agojivehoneyjiveMember
I’m no scientist, but to some extent, is immigration not the basis of evolution… if for example the protozoa in the primordial soup had disputed the ingress of spicy new organisms messing up their monotonous flavour, would we be here now bitching about stuff with sentient consciousness n that?Posted 4 years ago
neilferther – Member
Of course anyone with concerns about immigration is just a raving Nazi bast1rd, who likes nothing better than to riot and throw rocks at the police, and who likes being beastly to foreigners
+1 and well said that man. Nice to have some straight talking for a change.Posted 4 years agoyunkiMember
you go for it defenders of our way of life..
Posted 4 years agoepicycloSubscriber
On reflection maybe the EDL are right to be concerned.
Hopefully they will soon be expelling descendants of illegal immigrants from their ranks.
If they start with the Angles, then the Saxons, and finish up by culling out those of Norman descent they will be doing their country a great service.
Then both remaining members of the EDL can go forward secure in their racial purity. 🙂Posted 4 years agoepicycloSubscriber
Northwind – Member
Hmm. I’m a bit of a mixed race mongrel type, if they deport me can I pick and choose where I get sent home? Or do I get dismembered and sent to all of them? This may influence my decision.
Come to Scotland and ride free… 🙂
Oh, and free dismemberment available in Glasgae – just wear your favourite green or blue trackies.Posted 4 years ago
Not holier than thou – just tolerant. I’ve never lived in a Muslim country and funnily enough the vast, vast majority of Muslims I have met don’t want to live in a Muslim country either… So your point would be what Neilfether? Articulate your views – I am happy that you can do so, but don’t support riots which are not undertaken as peaceful protests but instead are designed to intimidate and agress others who don’t share your views
For balance though, I am living in a part of london where I am often blanked because I’m white and next doors house has a giant poster of Saddam Hussein in the window.
Not that I condone the edl but I can now partly understand why the working classes are falling into the laps of the edl, bnp and ukip.Posted 4 years agodazhSubscriber
Not that I condone the edl but I can now partly understand why the working classes are falling into the laps of the edl, bnp and ukip.
I hope you’re not suggesting the working classes are inherently racist. Excuse the sweeping generalisation, but If the working classes are guilty of anything, it’s being uneducated and ignorant. This ignorance allows the likes of the EDL, UKIP, rightwing media, the racist gobshite down the pub, to peddle lies and scare stories which provide simplistic and sensationalist explanations for the problems experienced by the working classes. And in the absence of any clear opposition from the likes of the Labour party, is it any wonder this is happening?Posted 4 years ago
I agree with your latter points but if I can elaborate I do think that much of the working classes feel disenfranchised through lack of work and their changing neighbourhoods…..unfortunately resistance and fear of change is natural in human beings…..in this regard I do feel as if we should be trying to listen to their grievances instead of making the problem worse by sweeping social problems under the carpet.
Personally I just feel sorry for humanity as a whole and can usually see the world from anyone’s perspective…instead of dismissing one group as stupid/racists/terrorists…so thats why I weighed in.Posted 4 years ago
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