At vapes don’t leave **** filthy butts all over the street. I’ve got 3 smokers in the road my house backs onto and the fagbutts all over the paths are just skank.

I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I’ve noticed vape smoke.

Thats not heavy  drinking thats hard core alcoholism

But it wasn’t alcoholism…. because I could stop any time with no problem.

I wasn’t waking up craving a drink etc. I’d just be out with friends of a night.

I was frequently working in dry countries and I’d just stop… get bad and go out on the piss with my mates a few weeks/months later.

My point really is different addictions hit different people very differently. Most of the people still smoking are in the group that find it much harder or they would have given up.

Lots of people get over opiates and still can’t stop smoking whereas others quit smoking really easily..

Excluding last week when I was on holiday and had wine with a meal I can go a month or longer and not touch a drop… but put me where i can’t get nicotine and I’m immediately on edge and going stir crazy… and it prevents me working.

Essentially tho – the vape smoke has been inside someone, so it’s full of their germs etc.. breathing all of that crap in when it’s already been inside someone is kind of gross in my eyes.

I have no problem with people smoking or vaping in general & think the current regulations about smoking/vaping in public places is fine & needs no tightening or loosening.

I dont care I about your better life I just want to live mine without myself or my family having to breath in your vape.

the vape smoke has been inside someone, so it’s full of their germs etc..

Any chance you could stop breathing within 50metres of my vicinity please? 😆

Essentially tho – the vape smoke has been inside someone, so it’s full of their germs etc.. breathing all of that crap in when it’s already been inside someone is kind of gross in my eyes.

Agreed, it’s almost like their breath has become visible. I wouldn’t want to be breathing in the air someone else has had in their lungs previously. Oh wait….that doesn’t work does it!!!!

People don’t really think through what they type much. Prince John….I’m seeing the Prince Regent from Black Adder! Nice chap but farking stoopid!

But it wasn’t alcoholism…. because I could stop any time with no problem.

This is a complicated subject.

I drink a lot of alcohol, not a lot of spirits but lots of beer and wine.

I drink way to excess when I’m home but as I work offshore and onboard dry ships, for 4 to 6 mths of the year, I just stop once I’m there. According to some, from the quantity I can typically drink, I should not just stop as it will make me ill. It doesn’t. I just stop. This is normally around 4 weeks but frequently it’s 7 or 8 weeks.

I definitely feel better for not drinking for a few weeks. However, I don’t crave alcohol when I’m working but the first thing I do when I get to the airport on the way home is to have a beer.

Some people would say this makes me alcohol dependent and hence an alcoholic. Others say if you don’t “need” a drink everyday then you are not an alcoholic.

Personally, I enjoy a drink but know it’s not good for you and will probably reduce my intake when I’m at home in the future.

I’m quite typical of people in my industry and I know plenty who drink a lot more than I do when home and then never touch drop for weeks at a time.

Addiction is a complicated thing.

There are some proper wee snowflakes on here…  🙂

People don’t really think through what they type much

My thinking was more the massive cloud of vapour when someone exhales vaping, compared to the amount of breath you see on a cold day

There are some proper wee snowflakes on here…

I know, make one joke about vaping or asking them to be considerate and they are off on one like the American gun nuts.

My thinking was more the massive cloud of vapour when someone exhales vaping, compared to the amount of breath you see on a cold day

🙂  Still not got it have you! You really think that the boundary of air from someone’s lungs on a cold day is the visible breath? Bless xxx

clue – think about a ripe fart. One of those ones that emanates as a tiny little pocket of gas but the person the other side of the room falls over. Then think how much more air is in a full lung full of expelled breath. Just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean its not travelling.

Still not got it have you! You really think that the boundary of air from someone’s lungs on a cold day is the visible breath? Bless xxx

That’s highly patronising – well done. Your mummy must be proud of her little vaping child.

Your mummy must be proud of her little vaping child.

Never vaped in my life. Or smoked for that matter. My childish mind just finds incomprehension amusing sometimes. Lots of reasons to be anti smoking (and some anti vaping) but yours was not one of them.

I wonder if any studies have been made to see if the transfer of airborne germs is increased in vapor which would probably make a very nice carrier.

I dont care I about your better life I just want to live mine without myself or my family having to breath in your vape.

the vape smoke has been inside someone, so it’s full of their germs etc..

Any chance you could stop breathing within 50metres of

I like the way you have combined posts from two people for effect.

Why would there be any more germs in vapour than in your breath?

Perhaps you need to get one of these? It’s a really really scary world out there. Pretty much everything is trying to kill you! Especially bastard vapers like me!

I like the way you have combined posts from two people for effect.

Yes, you are correct, not like I needed to, they were ridiculous enough on their own! 😆

Why would there be any more?  Because there’s a lot more moisture to cling to?  It would also probably give a nicer conditions for longer survival on any hard surfaces. I think it’s a reasonable question when the topic is use in public areas. Perhaps hospital waiting rooms etc.  Thank you for the sarcastic picture though.

I’d stay in that oxygen tent if I were you

So

I dont care I about your better life I just want to live mine without myself or my family having to breath in your vape.

Is ridiculous

Yes, you are correct, not like I needed to, they were ridiculous enough on their own!

I’ll remember this next time TJ has a rant about not wanting to be approached by other peoples friendly dogs for example. I really cant see how people not liking vape fumes in public spaces is that hard to understand.

You ok Hun? XX

I don’t see any need to relax the rules on vaping, although it really doesn’t bother me. Smokers and vapers have adapted to the current restrictions without any major issues.

I really agree with this post – let the current smokers and vapers get on with what they are doing right now. Let’s not relax regulations and certainly let’s not start allowing advertising vape products – I really do not see one single positive in doing that.

This is a complicated subject.

I drink a lot of alcohol, not a lot of spirits but lots of beer and wine.

I drink way to excess when I’m home but as I work offshore and onboard dry ships, for 4 to 6 mths of the year, I just stop once I’m there. According to some, from the quantity I can typically drink, I should not just stop as it will make me ill. It doesn’t. I just stop. This is normally around 4 weeks but frequently it’s 7 or 8 weeks.

I definitely feel better for not drinking for a few weeks. However, I don’t crave alcohol when I’m working but the first thing I do when I get to the airport on the way home is to have a beer.

Some people would say this makes me alcohol dependent and hence an alcoholic. Others say if you don’t “need” a drink everyday then you are not an alcoholic.

Personally, I enjoy a drink but know it’s not good for you and will probably reduce my intake when I’m at home in the future.

I’m quite typical of people in my industry and I know plenty who drink a lot more than I do when home and then never touch drop for weeks at a time.

Addiction is a complicated thing.

Sounds to me like you’re like me with alcohol.. though I barely drink now as my lifestyle changed but I wasn’t ever drinking aftershave offshore.  I also have known a few people that do the same with smoking but different people.

I’ve been a heavy drinker numerous times but largely from social aspects and presently have a nearly 9yr old and I was drinking 8+ pints most nights before he came along.

One of the things about rotation though is you feel it’s time to catch up…. your beer at the airport becomes more of a defining thing… and most of the people you socialise with tend to also be on rotation…

I switched that though… now when I’m flying home I start checking for uplift availability etc.

I don’t see any need to relax the rules on vaping, although it really doesn’t bother me. Smokers and vapers have adapted to the current restrictions without any major issues.

I really agree with this post – let the current smokers and vapers get on with what they are doing right now. Let’s not relax regulations and certainly let’s not start allowing advertising vape products – I really do not see one single positive in doing that.

Same here except I dont like the vape fumes, mind you I have the same problem in some peoples houses with those plug in air fresheners…make me gag.

5 years ago I smoked 20 bensons a day. Now I dont.

This has made my life infinitely better in lots of ways. I’d imagine it’s made other people’s life infinitely better too.

So I frankly couldn’t give a flying **** about the petty, sanctimonious bleating of those getting their whiney, snippy, middle-class petticoats all ruffled about getting the odd waft of my menthol vapour as I walk down the street. It’s not like I’m sat in your ****ing front room doing it!

So you’ve gone from smelly, unhealthy and selfish to slightly less smelly, unhealthy and selfish? Wow! Still at least you’ve the 2018 award for the most inappropriate use of the word “infinitely” to look forward to.

We were sat at a table in an outdoor bar at the Fringe last week. Couple of “vapers” sat down next to us with that disgusting stuff blowing in our faces. Asked them politely to stop or move. Total refusal. Selfish sods.

Apologies if that all sounds like a rant but I have asthma which doctors say is most likely the result of lots of smokers smoking when near me when I was young so maybe you can understand why I have little sympathy for any of them.

Lets ban air fresheners! 😆 While we are at it, i don’t like your family, lets ban your family! 😆

Let’s not relax regulations and certainly let’s not start allowing advertising vape products – I really do not see one single positive in doing that.

the garage nearest to me has an advertising board, 2 flags and a massive display of them. Branded to look cool and appeal to younger people. The advertising has already started and it’s going to keep going, they now have a nice blank space in front of the ciggs to put the adverts on

I wouldn’t fancy being the ad agency tasked with the brief of making vaping look ‘cool’

i wish you lot would make your minds up. One minute we look like nob-heads (fellating C3PO etc etc), the next it ‘looks cool’

Well, it’s either one or the other?

Which?

Lets ban air fresheners!  While we are at it, i don’t like your family, lets ban your family! 

Comprehension is not a strength of yours is it!! Life must be tough for you all I can offer is my sympathy.

Well, it’s either one or the other?

Not sure why you think that has to be the case, I think sliders and socks is beyond stupid, others dont.

I wouldn’t fancy being the ad agency tasked with the brief of making vaping look ‘cool’

i wish you lot would make your minds up. One minute we look like nob-heads (fellating C3PO etc etc), the next it ‘looks cool’

They need to make the concept look cool, like drinking alcopops back in the day. I assume you have seen some of the branding and advertising, whats your professional onions on that?

So you’ve gone from smelly, unhealthy and selfish to slightly less smelly, unhealthy and selfish? Wow! Still at least you’ve the 2018 award for the most inappropriate use of the word “infinitely” to look forward to.

We were sat at a table in an outdoor bar at the Fringe last week. Couple of “vapers” sat down next to us with that disgusting stuff blowing in our faces. Asked them politely to stop or move. Total refusal. Selfish sods.

Apologies if that all sounds like a rant but I have asthma which doctors say is most likely the result of lots of smokers smoking when near me when I was young so maybe you can understand why I have little sympathy for any of them.

In reverse order …

If they had vaping bad then it’s pretty likely you wouldn’t have developed the asthma ….

It’s really hardly more disgusting than man perfumes/deodorants and less harmful than many deodorants!

The unspoken rule I follow … if someone is there first then that’s completely different.

I was sat outside in the smoking area of the airport (Palma) the other day… specifically designated smoking… and had some germans sit next to me then ask me to stop…. there were lots and lots of seats…

Had I gone into the smoking area and instead I’d sat next to them I’d have looked for someone already smoking or vaping… even though this was a designated smoking area.

From my perspective I understand your distaste but in reality its some perfumed vapour.. I hesitate to mention but one of the really disgusting odours I find is Red Bull… the smell really turns my stomach…. possibly only rivalled by Jaegermaester… and I’ve left places before because of this but I’m not axing for them to be banned (even with possible health risks)

Dunno about cool, but isn’t “pluming”a thing? (As in some ecigs/formulae make more vape.) Spec with the cyberpunk crowd, with their little chimneys? Whatever, it looks a bit daft and frankly as a very ex smoker I prefer the smell of tobacco, but jesus **** christ, we’re talking less lung cancer here, fewer orphaned kids. And people object to the occasional waft of air freshener? Why won’t you think of the children!

(Hitting the right tone for this discussion?)

From my perspective I understand your distaste but in reality its some perfumed vapour.. I hesitate to mention but one of the really disgusting odours I find is Red Bull… the smell really turns my stomach…. possibly only rivalled by Jaegermaester… and I’ve left places before because of this but I’m not axing for them to be banned (even with possible health risks)

and if they were vaporising this and spraying it around I’d be concerned. Which places did you have to leave because of the smell?

Comprehension is not a strength of yours is it!! Life must be tough for you all I can offer is my sympathy.

No need to get your knickers in a twist about me. I’m doing fine laughing at the silliness of all this! 😆

I’ve left places before because of this but I’m not axing for them to be banned

Not sure anyone is here, just saying rules dont need to be relaxed.

I’m doing fine laughing at the silliness of all this!

I expect that happens a lot with you, cute!

I would keep regulations on Smoking in public places as they are right now.

However, I have nothing against the lifting of certain rules that do seem bit silly to me. Limiting a vape tank to 2ml has no effect what so ever – it just causes people to fill up more often!

Same here except I dont like the vape fumes.

I don’t like the fumes either but I find their allowed use just about on the tolerable scale. Sitting in a train carriage with people vaping in it during my commute certainly wouldn’t be tolerable.

I expect that happens a lot with you, cute!

The world is full of silly people that get upset at all manner of trivialities.

Stevextc, just noticed your comments about Baku on the other thread. Without any knowledge about you and just putting it out there, my brother used to drink like you talk about going dry when on rigs etc and he died in Baku due to the drinking. Glad to here your ways have changed.