Dont call me Babe.

@cg:

Good afternoon Ms, Could I trouble you with a question regarding the number of those which you could obtain for the sum of one English pound, if I may make so bold?

stumpy01
I took the patronising comment to mean that it was patronising towards women to jump in and assume that they cannot fight their own corner, like a knight in shining armour..

That would be a bit patronising if thats what I had done. However its not what I did as is clear if you actually read the thread.

I think the views of the women posting on this thread say it all.

I think the views of the women posting on this thread say it all.

cinnamon_girl – Member

* sashays into thread *

Make my day guys – call me ‘Babe’.

Me too TJ, My Lord.

Alright sweet cheeks. You’re back then? Where’s my brew?

*slaps TJ’s arse*

*cops a feel*

I took the patronising comment to mean that it was patronising towards women to jump in and assume that they cannot fight their own corner, like a knight in shining armour

+1. 😆
@ cg 😉

I resisted this thread till now.

It turned out exactly as I expected it too.

@ stumpy i dont think he was assuming they could not fight their own corner it reads more like he is asking people to not ignore the views of women whilst saying it is not sexist.

Not convinced DS you just seem to be the new cynical -al to TJ posting tbh

Junkyard – Member
@ stumpy i dont think he was assuming they could not fight their own corner it reads more like he is asking people to not ignore the views of women whilst saying it is not sexist.

just shows how people put their own context into the words of others 😀 and its all about context innit bredbin

i suggest most people on this thread are respectful people and wouldn’t intentionally say something they thought might come across as sexist, or belittling to the opposite sex.

Not convinced DS you just seem to be the new cynical -al to TJ posting tbh

Not so, sorry to disappoint, it probably looks that way in the absence of one or two larger than life characters who would otherwise be filling the void. One long thread yesterday and a reference to that today doesn’t quite constitute an on going attack, does it?
And it was exactly about women fighting their own corners, next we’ll be supporting positive discrimination. 😯
Isn’t there something wrong where I can call emsz a “little lady” in the most patronizing of ways, she can tell me to piss off, we both have a laugh as it was sent a received without malice or bad intention and out of all that a third (male) party is affronted???

i suggest most people on this thread are respectful people and wouldn’t intentionally say something they thought might come across as sexist, or belittling to the opposite sex.

and nor would most recipients take it like that either
There will however, be some ready to step up to the mark and take offence on their behalf, whether they want it or not

Oops CG and Mrs Toast ruin TJ’s desperate attempt to monopolise ethical purity.

Purrs … and then purrs some more.

Thanks chaps. 🙂

Thanks chaps

SEXIST!

😉

i suggest most people on this thread are respectful people and wouldn’t intentionally say something they thought might come across as sexist, or belittling to the opposite sex.

now that is patronising and misguided

mcboo – Member
Oops CG and Mrs Toast ruin TJ’s desperate attempt to monopolise ethical purity.

Really?

Mrs Toast – Member
I dislike being called ‘babe’. I don’t have much of a problem with duck, chuck, pet, petal or me dear, because they all sound like they can be applied to both men and women equally, although I’d question their use by strangers or colleagues in formal circumstances.

It might be a regional thing, but for me using ‘babe’ as a term of endearment comes off as being a bit sleazy and sexualised. It makes me think of the Daily Star and Nuts magazine, and of convention Booth Babes. Booth ducks would be awesome though.

Make my day guys – call me ‘Babe’.

You wish love 🙂

Lifer got in there before I did.
It is pathetic how you’re all after TJ again. All he said is to read the women’s posts on here (and apart from CG all resent some or all of those terms in one way or another!) but you make out he is all wrong to ask you to do this when you clearly haven’t read them.
Do you guys really don’t mind if blokes call your gf/wife ‘babe’ ? Any sleezy old git ? any chav ? Or your pal from the cycle club ?? REALLY ??

Do you guys really don’t mind if blokes call your gf/wife ‘babe’ ? Any sleezy old git ? any chav ? Or your pal from the cycle club ?? REALLY ??

This “context” concept is quite a difficult one to grasp, isn’t it?

Well, fill me in, mogrim, I haven’t got time to read all 8 pages …. guess you mean it depends who says it ? If you had read my first post I said I dislike to be called this by strangers. Context enough for you ?

“Lovely” seems to be the common term of address in S Wales.

Normally female to female or female to male…

Took a liitle while to get used to being called lovely by randon women

Well, fill me in, mogrim 😆

Steady…

Oh Crikey, jsut get your coat, will you! I was hesitating when I typed this and thought ‘they can’t possibly….’ – but you proved me wrong !! So classy 😉

* flutters eyelashes at phil, binners, crikey, IHN *

They’re eating out of my hand. 😉

Oh Crikey, jsut get your coat, will you

…why, are you taking me home? 😆

Sorry, having a bit of a Peter Kay moment..

They’re eating out of my hand.

Nah, we just know you’re easy 🙂

Crikey, not before you show me a photo of you, babe 😆

Well, fill me in, mogrim, I haven’t got time to read all 8 pages …. guess you mean it depends who says it ? If you had read my first post I said I dislike to be called this by strangers. Context enough for you ?

I couldn’t care less if some 65 year old tells my wife she looks fantastic today – and I know for a fact that she’s often quite chuffed when it happens. Another thing altogether would be a 25 year old guy at work saying the same thing to her on a daily basis. Context, see?

…and there’s an example of overtly sexualised communication, but in a context where it isn’t seen as threatening or demeaning.

Context…

*swoons at CG in a respectful, non-sexist way*

Well, fill me in, mogrim, I haven’t got time to read all 8 pages …. guess you mean it depends who says it

Not just who says it. Here’s a couple of posts I wrote earlier which explains what you’ve missed:

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dont-call-me-babe/page/7#post-3446402

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/life-is-all-about-taking-risks/page/4#post-3446556

Who says it, how they say it, meaning, intent.

Do you guys really don’t mind if blokes call your gf/wife ‘babe’ ?

Context.

If a bus driver said to her, as per the OP, “That’ll be two pound ten please babe” then I would think absolutely nothing of it. And she’d be quite happy to be called babe.

Would you really be offended if a female bus driver (or phil’s elderly mum) called your husband/partner “babe” in the same context?

*Looks askance at C_G.*

*Looks askance at C_G.*

Cap’n, I really am classy.

If a bus driver said to her, as per the OP, “That’ll be two pound ten please babe” then I would think absolutely nothing of it. And she’d be quite happy to be called babe.

Likewise. And I think I’ve just spotted what might be causing the disparity. Compare,

“That’ll be two pound ten please babe”

“That’ll be two pound ten please, babe”

The first, a throwaway friendly term. The second, the emphasis moves, he’s making a point of calling her a babe.

Do women really routinely call men ‘babe’? Not in my experience.

*Looks askance at C_G.*

You’re just slyly checking her out!

Well, thanks for the context examples.
Agreed, it is not all black and white, and there are situations where
I find it less offensive to be called babe or love (context:lady at the checkout, though still find hmmm what’s best to describe it, say weird. Maybe it’s just me, maybe it’s me being German, we don’t do these as far as I remember).
I do however not care if it is a 65-year old or a 25-year old stranger who calls me this, I do mind it whatever the age.
If it is the 25-year old guy from across where I sit in the office however …. 😆

Mogrim, Black Iridium lenses FTW! 8)

I do however not care if it is a 65-year old

They’re the ones you’ve got to watch, you realise.