[Closed] Dont call me Babe.

mountain chub - Member

People are dying in eastern europe due to severe cold conditions, people dying in third world with severe malnutrition - but someone innocently calls a woman 'love' on a bus and it's headline news

It was 'babe'.

A man saying 'Alright babe' to a woman has different connotations than 'Alright love'.

'Babe' to me is a term that references sexual attractiveness so I can see why some ladies may find in inappropiate. If I'm speaking to someone on the phone I'll use 'Sir' or 'Madam' and face to face I'm pretty sure I've never used 'love' 'babe' 'darling' etc to someone I don't know.

Junkyard - Member

How on earth could it be called patronizing to implore you to take the views of females seriously?

I took the patronising comment to mean that it was patronising towards women to jump in and assume that they cannot fight their own corner, like a knight in shining armour.....rather than it being patronising to DS that he should consider the views of females and take them seriously.....

Is that clearer, Sweetie??

'Babe' to me is a term that references sexual attractiveness

So when elzorillo and philconsequence's elderly mother calls you babe, you think that means she is sexually attracted to you?

In fact she "calls everyone babe" apparently.

So I think you just called their elderly mother a slapper?

Is that right darling?

I'm guessing "sugartits" would probably fall outside the bounds of acceptability.

I was once passed by a rider who shouted, "Elite rider passing on your right, sugar tits", but it was my husband, so I let it slide.

I dislike being called 'babe'. I don't have much of a problem with duck, chuck, pet, petal or me dear, because they all sound like they can be applied to both men and women equally, although I’d question their use by strangers or colleagues in formal circumstances.

It might be a regional thing, but for me using ‘babe’ as a term of endearment comes off as being a bit sleazy and sexualised. It makes me think of the Daily Star and Nuts magazine, and of convention Booth Babes. Booth ducks would be awesome though.

* sashays into thread *

Make my day guys - call me 'Babe'.

* waits excitedly *

Mrs Toast - Member

I was once passed by a rider who shouted, "Elite rider passing on your right, sugar tits", but it was my husband, so I let it slide.

He does that to everyone.

using ‘babe’ as a term of endearment comes off as being a bit sleazy and sexualised

I'm getting more and more interested in meeting elzorillo and philconsequence's elderly mother. She must be a right go-er. 😀

CG - you're a babe

my mum is indeed a right go-er, once had a to break into a car after a cheeky meet up for outdoor rumpypumpy on top of a clif ended up with them locking the keys inside the car! 😆

but that's not the reason she calls people babe, its the same as me calling people dude... only ever intended as a friendly thing, nothing sexual. personally i think 'honey' has as many sexual connotations as 'babe' (high street honeys for example) and as a result its not a term i'd use when chatting to teh laydeez. but i wouldn't batter an eyelid if a lady called me honey or babe, despite knowing they probably want me willy, it'd be incredibly self-centered and up-myself to assume so.

GrahamS - Member

"'Babe' to me is a term that references sexual attractiveness"

So when elzorillo and philconsequence's elderly mother calls you babe, you think that means she is sexually attracted to you?

In fact she "calls everyone babe" apparently.

So I think you just called their elderly mother a slapper?

Is that right darling?

🙄

I'd love too CG, but apparently that'd be belittling you. I'm sorry, but I've just too much respect for you

Sorry 😳

@cg:

Good afternoon Ms, Could I trouble you with a question regarding the number of those which you could obtain for the sum of one English pound, if I may make so bold?

stumpy01
I took the patronising comment to mean that it was patronising towards women to jump in and assume that they cannot fight their own corner, like a knight in shining armour..

That would be a bit patronising if thats what I had done. However its not what I did as is clear if you actually read the thread.

I think the views of the women posting on this thread say it all.

I think the views of the women posting on this thread say it all.

cinnamon_girl - Member

* sashays into thread *

Make my day guys - call me 'Babe'.

Me too TJ, My Lord.

Alright sweet cheeks. You're back then? Where's my brew?

*slaps TJ's arse*

*cops a feel*

I took the patronising comment to mean that it was patronising towards women to jump in and assume that they cannot fight their own corner, like a knight in shining armour

I resisted this thread till now.

It turned out exactly as I expected it too.

@ stumpy i dont think he was assuming they could not fight their own corner it reads more like he is asking people to not ignore the views of women whilst saying it is not sexist.

Not convinced DS you just seem to be the new cynical -al to TJ posting tbh

Junkyard - Member
@ stumpy i dont think he was assuming they could not fight their own corner it reads more like he is asking people to not ignore the views of women whilst saying it is not sexist.

just shows how people put their own context into the words of others 😀 and its all about context innit bredbin

i suggest most people on this thread are respectful people and wouldn't intentionally say something they thought might come across as sexist, or belittling to the opposite sex.

Not convinced DS you just seem to be the new cynical -al to TJ posting tbh

i suggest most people on this thread are respectful people and wouldn't intentionally say something they thought might come across as sexist, or belittling to the opposite sex.

and nor would most recipients take it like that either
There will however, be some ready to step up to the mark and take offence on their behalf, whether they want it or not

Oops CG and Mrs Toast ruin TJ's desperate attempt to monopolise ethical purity.

Purrs ... and then purrs some more.

Thanks chaps. 🙂

Thanks chaps

SEXIST!

😉

i suggest most people on this thread are respectful people and wouldn't intentionally say something they thought might come across as sexist, or belittling to the opposite sex.

mcboo - Member
Oops CG and Mrs Toast ruin TJ's desperate attempt to monopolise ethical purity.

Really?

Mrs Toast - Member
[b]I dislike being called 'babe'[/b]. I don't have much of a problem with duck, chuck, pet, petal or me dear, because they all sound like they can be applied to both men and women equally, although I’d question their use by strangers or colleagues in formal circumstances.

[b]It might be a regional thing, but for me using ‘babe’ as a term of endearment comes off as being a bit sleazy and sexualised.[/b] It makes me think of the Daily Star and Nuts magazine, and of convention Booth Babes. Booth ducks would be awesome though.

[i]Make my day guys - call me 'Babe'.[/i]

You wish love 🙂

Lifer got in there before I did.
It is pathetic how you're all after TJ again. All he said is to read the women's posts on here (and apart from CG all resent some or all of those terms in one way or another!) but you make out he is all wrong to ask you to do this when you clearly haven't read them.
Do you guys really don't mind if blokes call your gf/wife 'babe' ? Any sleezy old git ? any chav ? Or your pal from the cycle club ?? REALLY ??

Do you guys really don't mind if blokes call your gf/wife 'babe' ? Any sleezy old git ? any chav ? Or your pal from the cycle club ?? REALLY ??

This "context" concept is quite a difficult one to grasp, isn't it?

Well, fill me in, mogrim, I haven't got time to read all 8 pages .... guess you mean it depends who says it ? If you had read my first post I said I dislike to be called this by strangers. Context enough for you ?

"Lovely" seems to be the common term of address in S Wales.

Normally female to female or female to male...

Took a liitle while to get used to being called lovely by randon women

Well, [i]fill me in[/i], mogrim 😆

Steady...

Oh Crikey, jsut get your coat, will you! I was hesitating when I typed this and thought 'they can't possibly....' - but you proved me wrong !! So classy 😉

* flutters eyelashes at phil, binners, crikey, IHN *

They're eating out of my hand. 😉

[i]Oh Crikey, [b]jsut get your coat[/b], will you[/i]

...why, are you taking me home? 😆

Sorry, having a bit of a Peter Kay moment..

[i]They're eating out of my hand.[/i]

Nah, we just know you're easy 🙂

Crikey, not before you show me a photo of you, babe 😆

Well, fill me in, mogrim, I haven't got time to read all 8 pages .... guess you mean it depends who says it ? If you had read my first post I said I dislike to be called this by strangers. Context enough for you ?

I couldn't care less if some 65 year old tells my wife she looks fantastic today - and I know for a fact that she's often quite chuffed when it happens. Another thing altogether would be a 25 year old guy at work saying the same thing to her on a daily basis. Context, see?

...and there's an example of overtly sexualised communication, but in a context where it isn't seen as threatening or demeaning.

Context...

*swoons at CG in a respectful, non-sexist way*

Well, fill me in, mogrim, I haven't got time to read all 8 pages .... guess you mean it depends who says it

Not just who says it. Here's a couple of posts I wrote earlier which explains what you've missed:

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/dont-call-me-babe/page/7#post-3446402

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/life-is-all-about-taking-risks/page/4#post-3446556

Who says it, how they say it, meaning, intent.

Do you guys really don't mind if blokes call your gf/wife 'babe' ?

Context.

If a bus driver said to her, as per the OP, [i]"That'll be two pound ten please babe"[/i] then I would think absolutely nothing of it. And she'd be quite happy to be called babe.

Would you really be offended if a female bus driver (or phil's elderly mum) called your husband/partner "babe" in the same context?

*Looks askance at C_G.*

*Looks askance at C_G.*

Cap'n, I really am classy.

If a bus driver said to her, as per the OP, "That'll be two pound ten please babe" then I would think absolutely nothing of it. And she'd be quite happy to be called babe.

Likewise. And I think I've just spotted what might be causing the disparity. Compare,

"That'll be two pound ten please babe"

"That'll be two pound ten please, babe"

The first, a throwaway friendly term. The second, the emphasis moves, he's making a point of calling her a babe.