Donald! Trump!

Getting the people to actually listen & engage is always tricky when the right sells simple solutions for complicated problems.

So get the left to sell simple solutions to complicated problems. Not the same ones, but why aren’t the left making more of the pay differential between CEOs and workers? Tell us stories about Bezos making his drivers pee in bottles. How about the right’s complete disregard for the environment? Shit in our rivers, Musk’s rockets burning the manatees. Whatever. There seems to be a collective lack of imagination and a certain amount of cowardice on the left at this point, and it’s a mistake.

There seems to be a collective lack of imagination and a certain amount of cowardice on the left at this point,

There has never been a better time for left wing parties to offer a vision of a better society in contrast to the right wing status quo.

But they bottle it.

5 Live played some audio this afternoon of Trump rambling on at one of his rallies about the size of Arnold Palmers cock.

I mean seriously…. WTF?

Just put a tenner on Harris to win

Can’t believe that Americans would be insane enough to vote him in a second time.
I reckon enough swing state voters in particular will know what’s at stake, but I could see him piling up votes in red areas so that he actually wins the popular vote. If I couldve got odds on both those things I’d have gone for that!

Can’t believe that Americans would be insane enough to vote him in a second time.

I recall everyone saying the same the last time around. I’ve thought for a while that there’s a certain inevitability to it.

They really are that insane

So the Washington Post has declined to endorse a candidate.

To put this in perspective, this is the first time it has ever done this in 40 years and it has tended to endorse democrats in the past.

To put this in further perspective the Post is fairly recently owned by everyone’s favourite wobbly vibrator shaped ‘rocket ‘ man  Jeff Bezos.

The LA Times has also failed to endorse a candidate this election for the first time, though in the past it has also tended to endorse democrats.

The Times is has also been recently acquired by a billionaire.

Endorsing candidates is a big deal in the US.

In addition there is a fairly well substantiated rumo(u)r that Space Karen has been playing both sides and whilst ensconced in the Trump camp has been in frequent communication with Vlad the poisoner  for at least the last 2 years…..

I think its about time the public started having a problem with this billionaire ****

I think a big psycological human problem is that people feel a compulsion to pigeon-hole things as a binary choice… or they simply lack the mental capacity to see otherwise…

..of left or right… even on this forum.

It doesn’t help anything… some on here even use the term ‘centrist’ as a thinly veiled slur against differing opinions.

So we can’t really blame some American news papers for sitting on the fence…if they endorse Harris and trump gets in, he will put them out of business.

They really are that insane

I’ll see your ‘insane’ and raise you an ‘unpleasant’.

Jesus H Christ, I just noticed this thread has been going for nine years. NINE YEARS!

In addition there is a fairly well substantiated rumo(u)r that Space Karen has been playing both sides and whilst ensconced in the Trump camp has been in frequent communication with Vlad the poisoner  for at least the last 2 years…..

Sorry not following why that is playing both sides?  Trump and Vlad aint exactly on opposite sides.

Now if you were referencing the muskrats bowing to the CCP demands you might have a point.

So the Washington Post has declined to endorse a candidate

Bezos apparently worried about his space contracts if Trump wins, which I guess is not unlikely considering how deep Musk is into Trump

Abject cowardice but I don’t know if it won’t backlash, on the Trump campaign

In addition there is a fairly well substantiated rumo(u)r that Space Karen has been playing both sides

When you say “fairly well substantiated” you mean the stories in the Guardian and Wall Street Journal?

Jesus H Christ, I just noticed this thread has been going for nine years. NINE YEARS!

Statistcally speaking, it’s highly unlikely Trump will still be alive in another 9 years… it’s what he’s paving the road for, that is more of a concern.

It doesn’t help anything… some on here even use the term ‘centrist’ as a thinly veiled slur against differing opinions.

No they dont. Which shows, ironically, that you might be having difficult understanding positions varying from your own simplistic one whilst busily announcing others are mentally deficient.

Jesus H Christ… 12inchs….well according to Donny anyway.

When you say “fairly well substantiated” you mean the stories in the Guardian and Wall Street Journal?

Yes, two of the most respected publications on either side of the Atlantic with a long history of journalistic integrity (even the WSJ seems to have kept that with its current ownership), yes that would be it.

Why?

“Sorry not following why that is playing both sides?  Trump and Vlad aint exactly on opposite sides.”

Whilst your flippancy is understandable they are actually on different sides.

In addition the security clearance levels given to Musk based on his ownership of Space X and his partnership with NASA plus Starlink and its connections with Ukraine and other global conflicts and his ownership of X, a transmission device for fake news mean that he is clearly in a position to play both sides. This would not necessarily be an issue accept that……..everything.

No they dont. Which shows, ironically, that you might be having difficult understanding positions varying from your own simplistic one whilst busily announcing others are mentally deficient.

Your opinion, nothing more.

It certainly dovetails well with the statements hes made about Russia which were very much in line with putins own takes on the war.

It’s mad that Musk apparently has US security clearance and they are soon to be in government

Nick Offermans message to votors is spot on

Whilst your flippancy is understandable they are actually on different sides.

They’re both kleptocrats cooperating for each other’s mutual benefit. I think it’s fair to describe that as “being on the same side”.

One of Trump’s many creepy obsessions is his infatuation with totalitarian dictators and he has publicly fawned over Putin on many occasions. The fan boy behaviour has been so ridiculous that several people have suggested Putin must have something on him. Woodward’s recently published book claims Trump secretly gifted Covid testing machines to Putin during the pandemic and has had multiple phone conversations with Putin since leaving office.

somafunk
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Nick Offermans message to votors is spot on

Excellent and I’m so pleased he is one of the good guys on this.

Anyone watched the Rogan podcast yet?

I was willing to watch it out of curiosity.

From the clips I’ve seen already this morning, it’ll be a tough watch. Nothing to do with his politics, just his complete inability to get out a coherent sentence.

Anyone watched the Rogan podcast yet?

Nah, I used up all my “shout at the audio” rage earlier this week, there’s only so much bro science I can absorb without wanting to scream obscenities at inanimate objects.

I thought about listening to it but I don’t honestly have the energy

I got about half way through before it all got too infuriating and depressing.

Hard to believe it’s the same guy who was enthusiastically backing Bernie Sanders not that long ago.

Incidentally, Bernie was on Lex Fridman recently.  Everything he proposes is so reasonable and humane, and the average person on the street would agree with him.  Yet, he was totally squashed by the corporate controlled system running the US.

One interesting take away from the Rogan interview is he’s still struggling holding the line with his own bullshit about the last election. Having upset a lot of his closest supporters recently by actually saying he ‘lost by a whisker’ (supporters who’ve lost millions, face trials and prison so on becuase they supported him in his claim) and having to backtrack and say it was somehow a joke and admitting earlier this week that he’s never actually seen an evidence of cheating in the election – he did it again, this time trying to get the toothpaste back in the tube mid sentence

“I lost by, like….. I didn’t lose,”

considering how deep Musk is into Trump

Come again…?

BoardinBob
Full Member
Anyone watched the Rogan podcast yet?

I’m afraid not, this is where I agree with the whole going “Homer  Simpson” on some issues for your own peace of mind.

Epic that Arabic leaders/Islamists are endorsung him today. I get that they don’t agree with the Biden administration about Gaza… But thinking Trump will support Gaza more and not encourage Israel to hit the gas pedal?

I’m utterly amazed.

I’m utterly amazed

Mindboggling, but that sums up Trump for ya

Polls are still 50/50 but it’s exactly that kind of support that makes you think he might well win!

Epic that Arabic leaders/Islamists are endorsung him today. I get that they don’t agree with the Biden administration about Gaza… But thinking Trump will support Gaza more and not encourage Israel to hit the gas pedal?

Which ones? Most of the leaders couldnt give a flying **** about the Palestinians.

Its reckoned one of the factors for the Hamas attack were the talks between Saudi Arabia and Israel looking very positive. So the hope was the inevitable backlash would completely destroy that and get Saudi to side with Hamas. Obviously hasnt quite worked.

Trump is definitely a better business partner for Saudi Arabia etc. Just look at who invested in Kushners funds.

Great rant by San Antonio Spurs head coach against Trump.  Gets going about 2 minutes in.

Rogan podcas

Rogan is a major throbber and massively toxic, but inexplicably popular.

Trump dressed up in Proud Boys Colours at Madison Square, the place of the 1939 Nazi rally.

He knows exactly what he’s doing.

Listened to the Rogan Podcast.

Trump came across relatively reasonable (on the Trump scale anyway. Obviously not any normal scale). Which is quite worrying because I fear he’s winning more votes.

I want to punch Rogan in the face sometimes. You can tell he’s not buying into all his shit, yet for somebody who’s always insisted he didn’t want to give Trump a platform, he did exactly that and sided with him for most of the conversation, selling the narrative that the left control the media and go in unfairly hard against Trump. American politics perplexes me.

American politics perplexes me.

Start by looking at which group forms the largest segment of Trumps core vote.

Gonna have to stop looking at twitter

It’s amazing that there seems to be completely different narratives from partisan commentators who are certain that either Trump or Harris will win comfortably, with tons of polling and early vote, registration and other data to back up their claims

^that’s a very grim picture…

But I guess we’ll all find out in a week or two…

Well seems like Trump held a weird ego massaging victory rally at Madison Square Garden that all went as you might expect

With jokes about African Americans carving watermelons instead of pumpkins, Puerto ricans living on a trash island, latinos being unable to stop breeding, a deranged rant about Palestinians by Giuliani and a guy chanting America for Americans only
Also Musk being deeply weird

Will it move the dial? With the several million Puerto rican voters, maybe.

Just seems very daft to have a racismpalooza gig in the last week, gifting Harris campaign clips for attack adds they can run for the next 9 days

Also, he’ll get inflation to 0% and deport millions of illegal immigrants on day one. Which is nice. Those little hands will be working hard. Do you think you can irradiate inflation completely whilst simultaneously playing a round of golf – I suppose it depends how bigly you are.

Also, he’ll get inflation to 0% and deport millions of illegal immigrants on day one. Which is nice.

How can anyone anyone expect and electorate to  fall for this crap – he’ll be claiming he’ll fix the crisis in social care once and for all and building 40 new hospitals next.