Donald! Trump!

so another reason to hate him and Spotify

Rogan hasn’t been exclusive to Spotify for a long time

“Trump files foreign interference complaint against Harris and UK’s Labour Party“

“The Trump campaign says it’s filed a complaint to the Federal Election Commission against the Harris-Walz campaign, as well Keir Starmer’s Labour Party in the UK, for what it calls “illegal foreign campaign contributions and interference in our elections”

The wrong type of election interference for trump I’m guessing. 😉

Not just the Labour Party but the far-left Labour Party:

Trump campaign files complaint over ‘foreign interference’ by ‘far-left’ Labour Party in US election

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-complaint-labour-party-starmer-uk-fec-b2633790.html

The beeb have just added this:

For context: This election is not the first time that either Labour or Tory staff have campaigned in the US election for the Democratic Party or the GOP.

So this is just trump playing the little oppressed victim again.

And I thought Trump liked our far-left Prime Minister

Trump heaps praise on ‘very popular’ Keir Starmer as pair meet in New York

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-donald-trump-meeting-new-york-b2619851.html

Don’t seem too bothered that Truss and Farage campaigned for Trump, as pointed out by Victoria Derbyshire on Newsnight.

I’m getting a little anxious the Tango Orangeman will win.

I think Trump will win. I was hopeful when Biden pulled out, it felt like the was a switch and some fresh momentum behind Harris. But now I’m not so sure.  One thing that seemed to work was the “weird” line, it was getting under Trumps skin and it was as if people were realising “oh yeah, they are weird aren’t they”.  But I’ve heard (yeah, I know, unsubstantiated) that it was the Labour ‘advisors’ that put a stop to that and tried to win over the US equivalent of the ‘red wall’ by getting Republicans out to support Harris/Walz, and it doesn’t feel like that’s really working as well.

I am beginning to think Harris will win. I’m hoping it’ll be a 2022 mid term again

Trump is throwing everything at it, but the dials aren’t really shifting. I’d say they are desperate right now

Obviously I’m applying a good deal of copium right now….although this did cheer me up this morning

https://bad-faith-times.ghost.io/you-are-being-manipulated-by-bad-faith-pollsters/

I think Trump will win

Me too. Do you think he is any more ready for office than he was last time in terms of key figures ready to appoint? A lot of key figures around him and family members have moved on.

The first 24hrs could be interesting, beyond pardoning himself wherever possible which is just inevitable.

The depressing thing will be the other world leaders feeling they have to be pleasant to him for diplomacy reasons. We really could do with a Hugh Grant Love Actually moment.

So this is just trump playing the little oppressed victim again.

No, this is just slinging mud at the Democrats. Just means that someone has to take care of it, spend money sorting it out, and it just makes life just that little bit more annoying. It’s just politics. If Trump wins (I swither each way at the moment) it’ll not make the slightest bit of difference to any relationship he has with Starmer. Everything for Trump is transactional. Do what he wants, you’re the greatest person that ever there was. Challenge him, mock him, don’t do the thing he wants, and your the worst person that’s ever lived, and he tell everyone that you’re a terrible person.

The only thing that hoping for is that if he does win, he’s old, unfit, and very rapidly and obviously going demented. He may not last

The only thing that hoping for is that if he does win, he’s old, unfit, and very rapidly and obviously going demented. He may not last

The problem with that is that the doors will have been opened and the nut jobs will already be running the asylum!

I don’t think he’ll win but statement of the bleedin obvious he won’t go quietly. God I **** hate him.

If Trump stands aside/loses an internal coup then you’re replacing a lazy, oafish, fragile-egoed old man with a younger, driven, more psychotic alternative. It’s not like Trump leaves and Jimmy Carter replaces him.

what makes me so proportionally cross is that the fate of the free world, of millions of Ukranians and Gazans especially, but basically tens of millions and millions of ‘non combatants’ in this race comes down to literally a few thousand rednecks in Pennsylvania – thats not even hyperbole – its very likely 20,000 votes that will swing this.

Absolutely crazy.

Its crazy that it seems so close, polls are pretty much 50/50  nationally and in the swing states

Dems winning Senate  looking v unlikely and its 50/50 in House

If the Republicans get all 3 then Trump will be laughing, (and if he wins the House hes probably winning presidency anyway) if that happens expect a lot of Pardons for the likes of Banon & Giuliani and probably some pretty nasty attacks on those whove been prosecuting him for his various crimes & Jan 6th.

BUT Ive still got some hope that Harris will edge it in the swing states, young voters and women  turning out in big numbers will really help      Theres still a good chance that will happen

What I can definitely see is that if he lost he wont go quietly & Musk & his twitter will massively amplify the stolen election narrative , infact I think the people around him will be the ones pushing the conspiracies more than him (he already has his Supreme Court immunity & he’s very old)

Trump piling up votes in red states could even see him winning the popular vote but failing to get the swing states & losing the Electoral college, then there really would be all kinds of conspiracies and potential for violence etc

That de Santis geezer was supposed to be Trump v2. Whilst I don’t doubt there’s someone out there, this isn’t a drug turf war vacuum. Orange Shitgibbon inexplicably is special – we can see that from the impact he’s had on the world which will fill books and theses for decades.

winston
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what makes me so proportionally cross is that the fate of the free world, of millions of Ukranians and Gazans especially, but basically tens of millions and millions of ‘non combatants’ in this race comes down to literally a few thousand rednecks in Pennsylvania – thats not even hyperbole – its very likely 20,000 votes that will swing this.

Absolutely crazy.

You are not alone in feeling that way mate. I’ll be up on election night and hoping for the best. He’ll declare a win either way so it could get genuinely nasty even if Harris wins.

We are all slaves to fate and ones man’s ego and vengeance at this point. In other countries, their lives literally depend upon the result of this US election. It’s desperately sad, poor old Ukraine and Gaza. It shouldn’t be this way.

…he’s old, unfit, and very rapidly and obviously going demented. He may not last

The last president that statement applied to is about to see out his 4 years still in post, I wouldn’t be shocked at Trump sticking about for his full term if he wins.

I honestly think it’s too close to call too currently, between people trying to deliberately skew polls and Trumps flair for media Vs Harris looking a bit awkward at times. it’s a tough call lots of people will tell you Trump beat Hillary due to personality as much as anything else, lots of people (rightly or Wrongly) had an issue with ‘that Woman‘ America for all it’s progress in some areas still seems to like voting for old white men…

Listening to R4 this morning was interesting, they were talking to some Muslim Dems, former party activists who were so (understandably) upset over the Biden/Harris position on Palestine that they ran the spectrum from abstaining from the presidential vote and refusing to campaign, to one now pledging to vote Trump (admittedly there was a big dose of cognitive dissonance at work there).

Like it or not Harris has been part of the Biden government and therefore any issues voters have with Joe, more than likely carry over to Kamala.

My own worry (outside of a Trump win) is that a narrow loss will get spun as a “stolen” election by Trump and his acolytes, and the crazies will go full Gravy Seal en-masse and ‘just’ storming the capitol building won’t be enough for them this time. The election denial and insurrectionist rhetoric is still there and as potentially more dangerous than four years ago…

…this race comes down to literally a few thousand rednecks in Pennsylvania – thats not even hyperbole – its very likely 20,000 votes that will swing this.

~10,000 would apparently have done last time:

That de Santis geezer was supposed to be Trump v2. Whilst I don’t doubt there’s someone out there, this isn’t a drug turf war

JD Vance as VP would likely become president as that’s basically the point of a VP.

Just as nasty as Trump but younger, more intelligent and more articulate.

Crist, this is just sad. Elderly people bankrupting themselves making political donations.

https://x.com/KeneAkers/status/1848923842007433501

Not just the Labour Party but the far-left Labour Party:

Now that’s blatantly fake news, right there

MoreCashThanDashFull Member
Not just the Labour Party but the far-left Labour Party:
Now that’s blatantly fake news, right there

Theres a reason Trump is framing it as a far left plot, even though Harris is to the right of Thatcher , in america, among the crucial independent vote shes seen as hyper left wing!

https://twitter.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1849078676614222255

Just as nasty as Trump but younger, more intelligent and more articulate.

But he’s not Trump and I expect he only fares well as the nasty sidekick

I think Trump will win.

I think Musk possibly swings it for him.

Most people know Trump is an idiot by now, but Musk builds self driving cars, plants chips into people’s brains, and creates Thunderbirds rockets, and he’s all in for Trump, so Trump must be OK?

With more reach than potentially any other human on the planet, and a large following of younger people, I don’t think his influence can be overstated. Crazy times we’re living in.

Maybe Taylor Swift can take him down.

Rumours that those apprentice Nword tapes might be coming out

Of course we’ve been here before

Documentary about interference in 2020 just started on BBC2

Not just the Labour Party but the far-left Labour Party

I’m going to direct Republican voters to the Keir Starmer thread on here where his hardline Marxist fundamentalism is all anyone ever mentions 😀

butcher
Full Member

I think Musk possibly swings it for him.

I think Musk’s interventions, demented as they are, are a really big deal, mostly because they’re one of the few things the Trump campaign’s got that isn’t a direct appeal to his own followers. Without a doubt there’s individuals who’re politically “in the middle” but who’re fully in the cult of musk, it’s not a neat musk/trump cultist overlap. Like, this is a small bubble of course but there’s a lot of the really vocal spacex and tesla fanboys who are politically just completely in the democrat camp on essentially every issue but who think Musk can do no wrong.

Whether these people are among the few that actually matter, is the question.

But **** me, how depressing to be still 50/50. Especially now that Trump’s doing essentially nothing- he’s pulling out of events, he’s cancelling interviews, he’s just doing an occasional stunt or rightwing handjob interview and it doesn’t seem to even register. So much of the US press is about normalising trump but this feels different, weeks out from an election seeing a candidate just completely run out of steam should be an absolute disaster and it’s just…. nothing at all. It’s yet another thing that would absolutely ruin any other candidate and just doesn’t matter.

Most people know Trump is an idiot by now, but Musk builds self driving cars, plants chips into people’s brains, and creates Thunderbirds rockets, and he’s all in for Trump, so Trump must be OK?

Trump is going to win because, like Johnson and Farage with Brexit, he’s convinced the turkeys to not just vote for Christmas, but WE DEMAND CHRISTMAS NOW!

Anyone with anything between their ears might be perhaps asking why all the corporate billionaires are backing their ‘man of the people’?

MoreCashThanDash
Full Member
Documentary about interference in 2020 just started on BBC2

Yeah, watching it, it’s a little bit chilling. Going to be a rocky 4 years (and longer…) if he wins this.

I Just hope to god Kamala wins.. and I’m anti-thieist.

The only slight glimmer of hope if its tight and the obvious falsehoods start coming out of whatever Orange orifice is that currently Biden is in control of the state and you’d like to think the National Guard etc. would be called into duty quicker than on his watch last time.

he’s convinced the turkeys to not just vote for Christmas, but WE DEMAND CHRISTMAS NOW!

That needs to go on a t-shirt

Twitter rumour mill says

BREAKING: I have been told that Trump groped a minor at one of his donor dinners — and that there’s video.

Tbf it may just be anti-trump wishcasting, and even if true his cult would still vote for him

I wonder how many of Trumps most vocal critics or political or judicial enemies will happen to be on vacation in Canada or Mexico or elsewhere out of the country over the few days post-election.

He’s gonna have a lot of retribution to dish out, if he wins…

A screenshot articles in US politics site today. I don’t like the direction this is headed..

Bin dun!