Donald! Trump!

I give up. He is not a Muslim

Thanks, that saves me the time of looking through that badly edited pile of propaganda again. Anyway, who cares (apart form Americans)? I’m not concerned if he’s muslim, christian, jewish, buddhist, atheist. The impression I have is he’s one of the more decent men to have occupied the office.

he can try to deport 3 million people but it is a bit like me saying I am going to win the TDF next year without training to get team SKY to take me on as team leader . it is bollxcks .

Trump actually said he’d deport “up to” 3 million criminal immigrants or send them to prison.

If one immigrant goes to prison in the next 4 years he’ll have fulfilled his promise. He’s only really setting an upper limit.

What if there’s 10 million? He’s literally promised not to send 7 million of them to prison.

That list of lawsuits is pretty vague in general, mostly against businesses he owns not him personally, look at these two .. he called someone a dummy on twitter and his campaign sent out some texts … lock him up 😉

Mr Trump is also defending lawsuits tied to his campaign. In New York State, Republican political consultant Cheryl Jacobus filed a $4 million libel lawsuit claiming he “destroyed her career” by calling her “a dummy” on Twitter.

In another case, scheduled for 29 November in Chicago, it is alleged Trump’s campaign violated consumer protection laws by sending unsolicited text messages to “Help Make America Great Again!”.

As I said even the University ones are lame, trades description act (as it where) and not against him personally. Do you think he really has a great deal to do with course material or marketing copy ? A large business empire like he has will always be involved in litigation and disputes.

The sexual assault allegations could be serious but from what I have seen one certainly seems her word against his.

I’m not convinced that the people who voted for him will be satisfied if he only send 1 person to prison.

One of the University court case could lead to his impeachment as per the BBC link.
But more importantly do you think that it is morally right that he has been elected president with all those courts cases pending? Not really setting a good example is it?

Personally I’m not quite convinced he’s the devil incarnate that people say he is. Aye, he ran a fairly ridiculous campaign. Btw I would actually say when you cut through the shit and compare what Hilary was saying and what trump is saying, there’s not really much of a contest, trump was the more interesting policy wise. Have a look at his Gettysburg speech for evidence there, personally I think that’s what won him it.. I don’t agree with everything in it, far from it. But there’s someone pretty interesting stuff and some actual content, and rather than proclaim his supporters as idiots, personally I can see why alot of people voted for him.

I’ll watch what he does with interest.

People can moan about him all they like. But with clinton the democrats made a pigs ear of it.

cchris2lou – Member
….But more importantly do you think that it is morally right that he has been elected president with all those courts cases pending?…

Is it morally right to convict someone or punish them before the case is decided in court?

Is that the fifth or sixth time the Jonathan Pie video has been posted now?

It’s almost like people aren’t listening to what others are saying…

I am not condemning him , just asking is it right to elect someone president with so many questions marks over his integrity?

tbh I think you need a wee bit more than just question marks.

These days it seems a waste of time being bothered about the promises the people in power make. Often empty promises to gain the power and then they are never truly held to account (apart from by the opposition)..e.g. @jamba will always moan aabout Labour’s cock-ups and lies but hypocritically disrgeard his own Tory parties lies and cock-ups as if they’re the perfect example of a political party.

When Trump is unable to deliver his promises he’ll simply blame all those around him and walk away with all his suporters forgiving him blaming the opposition too.

It’s blinkered tribal politics.

Is it just me who instantly thought of this scene when Trump got voted in?

75 lawsuits! Phwa

President Zuma of South Africa had 700 plus cases of corruption against him and had narrowly wriggled out of a rape charge when he was elected. Now he’s just been implicated in a “State Capture” report that indicates he and his friends have stolen literally billions of Rand from SA and have put in place plans to steal more. All while people are living in shacks and begging at the traffic lights.

Trump is a Boy Scout 🙂

So he makes a big deal out of being a “smart” businessman. So why didn’t he see this coming, then?

Oh dear. Didn’t think of that.

so Trump is mixing it up with his appointments

A standard mainstream Republican politico with Reince Priebus

but keeping it ‘anti -establishment’ (well former goldman sachs banker) with the darling of the mysoginistic, xenophobic, anti semtic, white supremacist movement alt-right Stephen Bannon 😯

As for the China trade war thing

It was so obvious who would be the looser in that one Trump was always going to have to back down.

Still good news for Airbus!
not so good for the UK if we leave the single market 🙁
https://www.ft.com/content/a433d6f6-fa69-11e5-b3f6-11d5706b613b

Mr Woppit – Member
So he makes a big deal out of being a “smart” businessman. So why didn’t he see this coming, then?

Oh dear. Didn’t think of that.

I’m pretty certain he’ll will have, ffs even I could foresee that! 😆

The guy is not an idiot. The fact that people still follow that narrative really makes me question the intelligence of the “left”.

Oh dear. Didn’t think of that.

“If Trump wrecks Sino-US trade, a number of US industries will be impaired. Finally the new president will be condemned for his recklessness, ignorance and incompetence,” the newspaper said.

That ain’t going to happen, some will say that recklessness, ignorance and incompetence are positive traits. Then supply us with half cocked examples and bizarre rants about bowing to superior beings.
Others will point out what a smooth operator TMay was for winning the Airbus deal and that they saw this coming years ago.

spekkie – Member
75 lawsuits! Phwa

Be fair, that’s only the currently open ones. I think he’s in the 3000-4000 range total isn’t he?

I don’t know how this works – presumably so long as the Republican party keep supporting him and don’t impeach him, it doesn’t matter how many lawsuits he has against him, or even if he loses them?

I’m pretty certain he’ll will have, ffs even I could foresee that!

The guy is not an idiot. The fact that people still follow that narrative really makes me question the intelligence of the “left”.

so will he go through with it or just reverse another of his campaign pledges?
or are u saying everyone who believed in and voted for him is an idiot?

kimbers – Member
so will he go through with it or just reverse another of his campaign pledges?
or are u saying everyone who believed in and voted for him is an idiot?

I’m saying we’ll see what he does when in power. Or you just wanting to engage in a pantomime here? Ohhhhh, yes he will!

Personally, I think he does have a plan, some of it interesting, some of it bonkers(From my point of view). Whether he can implement it the way he wants is another story.

When he arrests 3 million people, send them to jail, that is going to create lots of jobs in the police, judiciary system, building prisons and prison guards.

Have any of those jumping up and down in apoplexy actually read ‘the art of the deal’?

You probably ought to, I reckon that those of us who did are the least surprised at his electoral success…

Personally, I think he does have a plan, some of it interesting, some of it bonkers(From my point of view). Whether he can implement it the way he wants is another story.

I don’t think for one second that he has any fixation on the way he implements things, as long as the broad goals are met.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/797649380564172800

#banterlads
#conservativeelitesquad

cchris2lou – Member
When he arrests 3 million people, send them to jail, that is going to create lots of jobs in the police, judiciary system, building prisons and prison guards.

May well do. I wouldn’t support it as I think that along with more miltary funding signals a more authoritarian approach, both domestically and externally.

But I think his wording is interesting with focusing on “criminal”, “illegal aliens” and “building a wall”. He’s kicked the question of “illegal aliens” into the long grass imo.

The Art of the Deal author (BTW this wasn’t Donald Trump):

“I put lipstick on a pig,” he said.

Source: Ghostwriter tells all

His Gettyburg speech if anyone is interested. Worth a watch imo. gives more of an insight into the appeal of Trump imo than you’ll get from the usual media sources that focus on his “antics”.

Its fairly obvious that any book ‘written’ by Trump would just be a PR exercise telling everyone how great he is.

Considering his history of telling the most outrageous lies*, you’d be a fool to take it seriously

* that also applies to his gettysberg address?

Schwartz was the subject of a July 2016 article in The New Yorker in which Schwartz describes Donald Trump unfavorably and relates how he came to regret writing The Art of the Deal.[1] He also stated that if it were to be written today it would be very different and titled The Sociopath.

😆
#Ninfantasia

One of the points from the book is to deliver the goods, so I expect he’ll be big on fulfilling his pre election promises then. Except the wall. And Obamacare. And…

Its fairly obvious that any book ‘written’ by Trump would just be a PR exercise telling everyone how great he is.

Considering his history of telling the most outrageous lies*, you’d be a fool to take it seriously

Whoosh

That’s exactly the point, and exactly why you need to read the book

So has Farage got really big hands or….

Steven Rattner ?@SteveRattner 15m15 minutes ago
The irony of Trump’s populism: 51% of his tax cuts go to the top 1%; only 0.8% to bottom 20%. My @Morning_Joe chart

Have any of those jumping up and down in apoplexy actually read ‘the art of the deal’?

Did you read the interview the new Yorker did with the ghost writer of the art of the deal? Quite enlightening!

I think petulant man child was one description of trump…. He has no attention span, can’t read anything for longer than 20 seconds before becoming bored, not able to discuss anything without either erupting with anger or storming off, no ideas really, other than those fed to him. I thought the most interesting thing was his apparent lack of business acumen, the author basically says that trump’s father negotiated the deals that trump now claims as his own. The business ventures that trump has initiated have all been disasters apparently!

No an ideal temperament for the ‘leader of the free world’s!

kimbers – Member
just be a PR exercise telling everyone how great he is.

* that also applies to his gettysberg address?

Don’t think it’s telling everyone how great he is. More just the base line to compare his presidency to. Rather than some tit for tat nonsense on the presidential debates, where I suspect most get their opinions from. (they really should just scrap them, The leaders debates in this country too, they are utter bunkum.).

Giver you a look at what actually attracted people to him, and gives you something to compare what he was elected on and what he does. Only reasons why I suggest people watch it, not because I support him (cause I don’t.)

I’ll just leave this here (doesn’t need it’s own thread but it is pretty funny).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37972626

Rather than some tit for tat nonsense on the presidential debates, where I suspect most get their opinions from.

I got a lot of my opinions of Trump by watching YouTube videos of his rallies and by reading his own tweets. That was more than enough to convince me that he wasn’t someone I’d ever vote for as my leader!

I’ll just leave this here (doesn’t need it’s own thread but it is pretty funny).

V funny.

Indeed