Dacia Jogger

Like a Renault only worse.

My Renault Scenic would be great if it wasn’t for the shitty electrics.

If Dacia have less complex and fragile electrics, I could be interested.

Wish they’d start making vans though.

Wish they’d start making vans though.

They do – they just don’t make them in RHD or bring them into the UK…..

They do – they just don’t make them in RHD or bring them into the UK…..

OK, I’d just found out about the Duster Commercial, if that’s what you mean?

What I’m really after is a Dacia version of the Trafic for £10k less though.

Dacia Dokker is the van but not as big as a Trafic. Also commercial versions of the Logan estate over the years

Anyone seen one yet? Wondered how much load length is in the back…

Went to have a look today. Boot with the two rear seats down is a bit bigger than a Berlingo Multispace.

Nice looking car. Salesman is going to give me a call on Monday when they are allowed to start booking test drives.

I’ll also add that you’ll never be wheeling a bike into it unless it’s a kids one. The roof is a good bit lower than a Berlingo and it doesn’t have an entirely flat boot lip. Only had a brief sit in the driver’s seat, feels much more car like but then it’s car based not van based so makes sense.

I asked if they’d had much interest and the guy said they’d had loads of people asking about it or popping in to have a look.

For me it’s the only thing on the market that can replace our Berlingo now that they are EV/£32k only.

Good info, thanks

Hmm, not altogether surprised since its based on the Logan/Lodgy, more disappointed by a boot lip tbh.

Thanks for the info @northernmatt. Looks like I’m getting a 2014 Zafira then 😂😭

Hmm, not altogether surprised since

Me either – it seems as if the measuring tape they built it with was accurate.

more disappointed by a boot lip tbh.

It’s not massive but I’m looking at it from the perspective of a Berlingo owner which has no boot lip to the extent that things fall out sometimes when you open it.

Also, I’d rather walk than drive a Zafira, or any Vauxhall for that matter.

For me it’s the only thing on the market that can replace our Berlingo now that they are EV/£32k only.

Just get a Vauxhall Combo, they’re a rehashed Berlingo now.

Also, I’d rather walk than drive a Zafira, or any Vauxhall for that matter.

The new Vauxhall’s have no relationship whatsoever to the previous ones (see above). They’re now like Skoda/Seat to VW, better value that the stuff they’re based on ie Peugeot!

Combo is also now EV only as it’s the same van as the Berlingo/Partner.

I’ve driven a few new Vauxhall’s, despite now being based on PSA/Stellantis platforms they are still terrible cars. Example, a 1.2 Corsa with an 8 speed auto gearbox that could never decide what gear to be in.

1.2 Corsa with an 8 speed auto gearbox that could never decide what gear to be in.

You wouldnt know either if you had a usable power band smaller than a ERF truck and enough gears to try and stay in it.

@thebunk

Noooo. Don’t do that. Ford Galaxy or S-Max. Much, much, much better cars than the Zafira. Better made, better thought out, more space, more reliable, better to drive, more comfortable. It’s not even close.

My 2008 Galaxy just turned over 150k miles, about to sail through another MOT. Cost £4k in 2018 with 100k on it. Apart from a new timing belt and water pump (which I knew about when I bought it) hasn’t missed a beat.

Sister swapped Zafira for S-Max at the same time. Night and day. You’ll thank me 😏

That Jogger looks interesting. Hopefully got at least 4 more years out of the Galaxy yet though, so maybe one for the future.

Whoever said Skoda Yeti as a bike car has obviously never seen one. Unless he meant for a balance bike..😀

@funkrodent problem is that the Fords are hitting £13K-£22k for a 2013-2016 reg (needs to be petrol not diesel). I could maybe stomach that for a new car but I can get an OK Zafira equivalent for more like £6k. I know Zafiras are dull dull dull but I basically want something I can chuck bikes & tents into, or do tip runs (or both, and then drive to Scotland in). I’ve had two and they’re fine for that, and the main thing I want in my next car is a decent CarPlay set up, which I can do myself.

I’ve owned nice cars and stuffed some of them into the central reservation on the M4. My wife regularly bashes our car on shopping trolleys and picturesque villages in Cornwall. No point buying a nice one!

I buy Apple and Sonos stuff for nice buttons, have a nice office seat and monitor for my day to day interior, and ride bikes and karts for adrenaline.

I’d rather walk than drive a Zafira, or any Vauxhall for that matter.

This perspective makes no sense to me, especially on a thread about a 7 seater Dacia! The sooner we stop fetishising family cars the sooner manufacturers will stop making those stupid SUVs.

his perspective makes no sense to me, especially on a thread about a 7 seater Dacia!

Yep, thought the same on a thread about a Dacia that repeatedly mentions the Berlingo. We’re very much in Vauxhall territory here!

Fair enough I guess, second hand cars seem to be crazy money right now. There is of course a reason the Fords cost that much more, but as you say horses for courses. After all there’s only so many Cornish villages you can bash..

I’ll probably be thinking along your lines if/when the Galaxy finally succumbs to the missus bashing it into lampposts and picturesque Yorkshire Dales villages..

Fords do seem stupidly expensive atm, tbf.

This perspective makes no sense to me, especially on a thread about a 7 seater Dacia!

Yep, thought the same on a thread about a Dacia that repeatedly mentions the Berlingo. We’re very much in Vauxhall territory here!

It’s me mentioning the Berlingo because I have one. I don’t have anything against family cars I just have a pathological hatred of anything with a Vauxhall badge. A company that had made a business producing mediocre cars.

I just have a pathological hatred of anything with a Vauxhall badge.

Seriously? This is like you having strong feelings about the manufacture of my microwave.

Berlingos seem…ok? But hardly appealing (though the new electric ones are really nice). Try finding a ~7 yr old petrol low mileage non mobility one for less than £10k (or at all actually).

Honestly a 2 series grand tourer holds far more appeal for the sort of money Fords and Citroens are going for, and then I remember all of the vomit, mud, sand and haribo in my car and figure I might as well save £10k and all the stress and cleaning and just get another skip on wheels.

Seriously? This is like you having strong feelings about the manufacture of my microwave

I can appreciate his perspective.

Unlike a microwave you can’t just walk away from a car once you start using it, the most hateful cars I’ve ever driven have been Vauxhalls. You seem to treat your cars as white goods, that’s fine, other folk prefer something that’s enjoyable to drive (this is not synonymous with “making progress” for the hard of thinking) just as none of us doss about on BSO’s.

In fact that’s a good analogy, Vauxhalls are the Carrera of the car world. Nothing inherently bad about them (except the ones that spontaneously combust) but nothing good either. The embodiment of beige. Any good Vauxhalls are almost exclusively made by someone else.

@squirrelking indifference I can understand. Vauxhalls are beige af. I save pathological hatred of companies for the truly evil, such as Nestle and Wonga (erm, and Hasbro, makers of monopoly).

Dont get me wrong, I’d like a nicer car (hence this thread). I like nice things, and when I didn’t need a big car I had some lovely cars, and enjoyed them *quite* a lot more than I do now.

But I’m not spending £12-15k on a old dull box when I can get a duller box for probably half that for the same age/mileage/condition. That’s crazy to me. That’s enough for a really nice bike. And it’s not like Galaxy’s and Berlingos are objectively twice as good as a Zafira (COME FOR ME I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL 😝), but it looks there are enough car snobs around to push the price of those up while Zafiras haven’t gone up so much.

Whoever said Skoda Yeti as a bike car has obviously never seen one. Unless he meant for a balance bike..😀

Used to comfortably do seating for me, Mrs hoppy and hoppy jr, 2 adult bikes and a kiddy bike with only front wheels out, plus all the kit for a day out biking in ours. The seats come out completely tool free which is really convenient. Only changed it when he went to bigger bikes.

I was surprised how small my nephew’s Yeti seemed inside, especially the boot.

We used to have Vauxhalls at work and my overriding memory was they were dull and always a bit worse than the equivalent Ford, which were a similar price. My mate is on his second Insignia estate and they seem decent enough. I’d have one all day long over a Berlingo though, they are one of the most joyless vehicles to drive and travel in. Terrible driving position for me too. Yuk.

Saw one on the road today. In the pictures it looks great. On the road it just looks like what it is – a cheap, huge car. It’s proper big.

I quite like the look of this Jogger thing. But then, I am approaching 40 and my days of burning petrol for fun are over.

Our Yeti is tiny in the back. Seats are small and uncomfortable, boot is high but not very deep. It’s alright for ferrying a baby and all his junk around but I can’t fit the child seat seat behind me if I’m driving.

I’m not spending £12-15k on a old dull box when I can get a duller box for probably half that for the same age/mileage/condition. That’s crazy to me. That’s enough for a really nice bike. And it’s not like Galaxy’s and Berlingos are objectively twice as good as a Zafira

Well you’d (seriously) think that by now if it’s not gone on fire it probably won’t, that’s fair assessment really.

Still wouldn’t bee seen dead in one though (oral stipulations to this effect have already been made), I guess that shows how irrational some folk are.

Our Yeti is tiny in the back

cm for cm they’re smaller than a Roomster. Seriously.

I’d have one all day long over a Berlingo though, they are one of the most joyless vehicles to drive and travel in. Terrible driving position for me too. Yuk.

shame they are just a better box at moving things around than a regular estate car such as an insignia

Seen some reviews for the Jogger-generally favourable, there’s nothing comparable for the price.

The boot opening is the major issue really. Lip at the bottom and even at the sides it looks like a narrower opening than necessary.

Missed opportunity really to make a ULEZ compliant van like car 😢

Why are people obsessed with lips at the bottom of a car boot? Do you pack your shopping with a fork lift truck?

Some boot area pics and measurements from my local Renault dealer:

https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjzFSrF

How much spare time do you have this afternoon?

It’s not the Lotus Elise that I was hoping to buy but I like the idea of a Jogger camper project.

Why are people obsessed with lips at the bottom of a car boot?

A 100mm lip at bottom of boot can result in a full built bike not going in.

If it can’t do that why not drive a regular estate. No one denies van like mpgs are **** ugly …. But if they can take a bike or other bulky items I can live with it not looking or handling like a Ferrari.

Why are people obsessed with lips at the bottom of a car boot? Do you pack your shopping with a fork lift truck?

It’s more the utility aspect or lack thereof. If you’re wanting to get big objects in then it stands to reason that you want them to interact with as little of the rest of the car as possible.

If it can’t do that why not drive a regular estate.

Can still get decent estates with no lip 😉

Boo!

Wanted to like it but that split level floor is just no use for us. I’d need something to flatten at least the third row area and something else if I was going for maximum space.

That said you could easily turn it into a storage cubby so all is not lost.

the most hateful cars I’ve ever driven have been Vauxhalls.

Ever driven a hyundai?  the I10 I had from work for a few monthswas singularly the most awful thing I have driven.

I have, an l800 and an l10. Granted the l10 was on holiday so wasn’t driven that much but it didn’t seem particularly awful, nor was the l800.

Maybe I just had lower expectations.

I800 crew minibus we had.

Felt like the diff was trying to escape the housing at 60 . It wasn’t old.

Was also internally specced with a heavy dose of the 90s .

But that said it looked and felt like a Mercedes inside compared to a Logan MCV.