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  • Kryton57
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    So after Jnr broke my 1 crystal “rum” glass, I was sent to JL to by some Doulton glasses.  Realising they were £70 and sitting next to the JL alternative at £15 a pair, it’s not difficult to surmise which I came back with.

    So of course, I find myself being pointed back at the shops.   What then, crystal tumblers are we recommending at a price that enables me to swallow the contents without choking?

    ElShalimo
    Full Member

    Just buy glasses that you like the look and feel of.

    EDIT: these look nice

    https://www.ecookshop.co.uk/ecookshop/product.asp?pid=G1127-10-991

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    frankconway
    Free Member

    Ignoring your comment about price – Waterford, Edinburgh, Baccarat, Lalique.
    Alternatively, do the rounds of charity shops as heavy cut-glass tumblers are usually disposed of during house clearances; if you’re lucky, you might find a set of tumblers with matching decanter.

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    the-muffin-man
    Full Member

    Not really a middle class thing – more like 1970s/80s thing!

    My mum has tons of it along with Crown Derby.

    Amazed anyone still buys it.

    frankconway
    Free Member

    Just to add…antique shops.
    EDIT: get whatever Mrs K wants and then get yourself a Georgian Rummer.

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    tjagain
    Full Member

    cut glass tumblers?  Horrible things

    tall_martin
    Full Member

    My dad plays a lot of bridge. He has won a cabinet full of cut class glasses. None of which match.

    Bridge prizes are now m+s vouchers.

    It’s all going in the charity shop eventually.

    Loads of his mates have passed, and will have had similar glass collections. Id start hunting in charity shops frequented by ex bridge players children.

    {Best prime of miss jean Brodie accent}
    Get yourself to morningside in Edinburgh young man

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    stingmered
    Full Member

    Middle Glass Content, surely?

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    bonni
    Full Member

    Charity shops. Save your money and spend it on what goes inside the glass.

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    hot_fiat
    Full Member

    Iittala. The only mass produced crystal glassware I’ve seen glassblowers fawn over.

    sold in supermarkets in Finland.

    buy secondhand off eBay.

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    Edukator
    Free Member

    I started drinking out of various styles of Duralex goblets in primary school and have never found anything more functional and pleasant to drink out of. I taught English classes at la Cristallerie Baccarat, a fascinating place but I’d rather drink out of Duralex.

    I have a load of mismatched crystal from races way back when, I wouldn’t drink anything out of it as most of it is Waterford lead crystal.

    hot_fiat
    Full Member

    Most crystal is lead as it makes it much easier to cut and polish. It shouldn’t dissolute out, though I wouldn’t keep spirits, or indeed anything in a decanter long term. There’s very little new lead goes into crystal nowadays –  it’s largely recycled cullet. My ex was a little paranoid about gloves and face masks when charging the furnaces with cullet as the dust would get everywhere. It was 50/50 what was the more hazardous bit: that or the silica dust from the raw ingredients.

    Edukator
    Free Member

    The lead made the molten glass easier to work with as it remained maleable for longer. Water from a water filter in lead crystal would also be a bad idea.

    This woman put a decorative metal fish in her water-filter jug. She got lead poisoning and had her feet amputaed among other things. Don’t take chances with lead.

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    Cougar
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    I like a nice glass. I received a pewter-and-glass glass made by this lot for Christmas and it’s amazing:

    https://www.aewilliamsshop.co.uk/

    Honestly though, for day-to-day ‘nice glass’ duties, a set I got from the Middle Of Lidl is as decent as any cut glass I’ve previously paid considerably more for. I think they were ten quid for four.

    thegeneralist
    Free Member

    My parents would just buy local, which at the time was Pasabahce.

    Not much use to you though…..

    suburbanreuben
    Free Member

    Duralex!  It bounces a couple of times an then shatters in mid air….

    Otherwise indestructable!

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    tillydog
    Free Member

    Cut crystal glasses aren’t to my taste, but the risk from drinking out of lead crystal glasses is nigh on zero. The risk from storing drinks in lead crystal decanters is minimal. The lead content is an integral part of the glass structure and can’t come out unless the glass is dissolved.

    Bear in mind that “proper” lead crystal glass is about 40% lead oxide. “Modern” lead crystal is only about 24% lead oxide and is significantly less soluble than the 40% lead [oxide] crystal. I used to make glass with 80% lead oxide content (for use in camera lenses and nuclear shielding) and it was perfectly stable.

    Lead oxide increases both the refractive index and dispersion (separation of colour) of the glass, lending it brilliance and colour, as well as making it easier to work. Modern, lead free alternatives can get close, but they lack the clarity and freedom from colour cast that real lead crystal possesses.

    Much modern “crystal” glassware is cheap, moulded stuff. Ergo: Pick something you like and buy it.

    thecaptain
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    Auction houses sell it by the bucket load for pennies. 2nd hand shops, just a little bit more unless you go to some crazily priced antique boutique.

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    thecaptain
    Free Member

    But on the middle class thing – you mean people actually buy crystal glassware rather than inheriting it? Poor things.

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    Kryton57
    Full Member

    Save your money and spend it on what goes inside the glass.

    This was the right answer, fine rums aren’t getting any cheaper.  🙂 I decided to keep the £15 x 2 JL specials and be done with it.  I’m not looking to impress anyone just add a slight sense of occasion when sipping at the XO.

    bol
    Full Member

    I was in JL buying glasses the other day and was really surprised to see they’re still selling cut glass stuff. It just reminds me of 80s chintz and curtains with pelmets and tie backs. If they feel nice in your hand though, that’s probably the most important thing.

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    clubby
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    I was in JL buying glasses the other day and was really surprised to see they’re still selling cut glass stuff.

    Probably as a present when you can’t think of anything else to buy someone. We got a stupid amount of it when we got married despite specifically saying we didn’t want any presents. Felt obliged to keep it but finally cleared it out last year after it sat for 7 years untouched.

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    blokeuptheroad
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    You like crystal? Maybe you need some Franklin mint style collectables too?

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    blokeuptheroad
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    Despite my post above, we have loads of it. Mostly Tyrone crystal given as gifts in a previous life. It’s OK, I still use the tumblers for whisky but the 3 or 4 port decanters are gathering dust! Not something I’d choose to go out and buy for myself, but as they are gifts from people I like and they jog good memories I keep them.

    fasthaggis
    Full Member

    For me, at this time of the year  I  like how a well made glass adds to my drinking experience.

    A bit of weight and the way the glass catches the light from the fire as the weather rages outside,perfect 😃

    If you are fine drinking out of plastic mugs,crack on.. 😆 🤣

    desperatebicycle
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    Yeah, I’ve got crystal (Edinburgh Crystal iirc) was a wedding present from gawd-knows-who. Never drink out of it. My favoured whisky glass is a lovely thing I stole from a pub 41 years ago.

    footflaps
    Full Member

    I was in JL buying glasses the other day and was really surprised to see they’re still selling cut glass stuff.

    It’s aimed at aspirational middle class, the Hyacinth Buckets of the world.

    IdleJon
    Free Member

    I need the Elvis Presley Dambusters Tutankhamun clock!

    Kryton57
    Full Member

    It’s aimed at aspirational middle class, the Hyacinth Buckets of the world.

    *waves*

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    simondbarnes
    Full Member

    *waves*

    You don’t need to, we already knew 😉

    Kryton57
    Full Member

    😂

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    frankconway
    Free Member

    Alternatively…it’s bought by people who are comfortable in themselves and appreciate ‘nice things’.

    Kamakazie
    Full Member

    TK Maxx / HomseSense usually have a selection of crystal tumblers and more palatable prices if you don’t want to buy S/H

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    avdave2
    Full Member

    Not really a middle class thing – more like 1970s/80s thing!

    To separate you from the people who got their glasses from buying petrol.

    I did inherit a few nice glasses from an old neighbour but the ones I use most of his are old Nutella jars. 😂

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    tall_martin
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    To separate you from the people who got their glasses from buying petrol.

    My family had a petrol station. My folks still have 40+ glasses from a shell promotion.

    They are indestructible. I’ve never broken one or seen one do any more than chip in 30 years.

    Perfect for hard drinking bridge players parties as they get progressively older

    I’ll be fighting my sister to inherit them 😃

    tjagain
    Full Member

    Alternatively…it’s bought by people who are comfortable in themselves and appreciate ‘nice things’.

    Nice glasses are nice – but cut crystal is horrible 🙂

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    ransos
    Free Member

    cut glass tumblers? Horrible things

    I drink whisky from my grandfather’s crystal tumbler. About the only thing he had of any material value, and it’s a nice memory.

    Murray
    Full Member

    I’ve got (non-cut) Dartington crystal glasses because they were one of my father-in-law’s first customers when he moved into sales for Shell. Nice glasses and an interesting company – set up as a social enterprise to bring jobs to Devon.

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    Ambrose
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    I have a couple of really special ones that I can remember my mother buying as a wedding anniversary gift for my stepdad. Both are now gone but the glasses are a lovely memory. I use them regularly.

    Sandwich
    Full Member

    I drink whisky from my grandfather’s crystal tumbler

    I asked for the bar mine used and received it too. (Biedemeier wardrobe conversion with plate glass shelving, lighting and a small fridge). There’s lots of whiskey in it nowadays and some great memories of times past.

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