chemistry teacher jailed…

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2015-03-05/chemistry-teacher-who-planned-to-fight-for-islamic-state-jailed-for-six-years/

So he was making plans to go over at the same time as David Cameron was seeking permission from parliament to get stuck in too. Seems quite harsh!

So he was making plans to go over at the same time as David Cameron was seeking permission from parliament to get stuck in too. Seems quite harsh!

Was David Cameron wanting to side with ISIS?

He taught at the local high school to me 😯

Is it OK to call him a chemistry teacher. Lots of people teach chemistry some of the time, but actually spend more of their time sleeping, and some of their time driving cars or riding bikes. 😉

6 years doesn’t seem that long a sentence to me

6 years for “wanting” to do something, a thought crime effectively.

That doesn’t mean I agree with him or support IS by the way….

6 years for “wanting” to do something, a thought crime effectively.

I thought he was charged with “engaging in conduct in preparation of terror acts” i.e. he’d made specific preparations to go out there and join them. I don’t know where I stand on the case but he wasn’t jailed for “wanting” to join them.

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Was David Cameron wanting to side with ISIS?

he wanted to send significant arms to the Syrian rebels 2 years ago, but was prevented thanks to a backbench revolt that forced him to call a vote

he went on adrew marr and admitted that the rebels ‘had a lot of bad guys’ but hed still arm them over seeing assad win
http://www.channel4.com/news/syria-civil-war-rebels-arm-weapons-david-cameron-backbench

then milliband showed some testicular fortitude and thwarted daves attempt to bomb assad and help them take syria
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783

funnily enough daves actions sound a lot more like “engaging in conduct in preparation of terror acts” than this chemistry teachers

I thought he was charged with “engaging in conduct in preparation of terror acts” i.e. he’d made specific preparations to go out there and join them.

I’m assuming that just meant travel plans. If so, 6 years does seem pretty harsh. All a bit Minority Report if you ask me…..

Was David Cameron wanting to side with ISIS?

he wanted to send significant arms to the Syrian rebels 2 years agosomething I have noted in the past. How closely linked are those rebels and those now calling themselves ISIS?

I’m assuming that just meant travel plans. If so, 6 years does seem pretty harsh.

agreed.

He’s a teacher I doubt he planned anything!!

something I have noted in the past. How closely linked are those rebels and those now calling themselves ISIS?

by 2013 the most effective and largest part of the Syrian rebels was the Islamic front the Al Nusra Front , a hardline islamist group that spun off from and then rejoind isis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#Syrian_Civil_War_.282011.E2.80.93present.29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Nusra_Front

He’s a teacher I doubt he planned anything!!

Well, at least he’ll have time to catch up on his marking.

a hardline islamist group that spun off from and then rejoind isis

so planning to arm a bunch of ne’er do wells is legit but planning to join them is 6yrs at her majesties pleasure.
mmkay, glad we cleared that up.

Well, at least he’ll have time to catch up on his marking.ll, at least he’ll have time to catch up on his marking.

Sentence is too short for that!!

He’s a danger to the public. Surely he should be getting therapy in a mental hospital.

Not a he disagreed with other values and should be locked up. If he really wants to kill, he should be psychoanalysed for risk of public danger.

He wanted to go somewhere else in the world and fight for a cause that he believed in (and who were, at the time, officially The Goodies) Does that make him a danger to the british public? I’ve not seen any suggestion that he ever considered committing any terror act here either.

officially The Goodies

Arm them with Giant Kittens?

If he really wants to kill, he should be psychoanalysed for risk of public danger.

Even though the people he wanted to kill were in the Syrian army?

That would definitely put David Cameron on dodgy ground.

Navy ready to launch first strike on Syria

“Royal Navy vessels are being readied to take part in a possible series of cruise missile strikes, alongside the United States, as military commanders finalise a list of potential targets.”

I’m assuming this would have involved quite a few people in Syria being killed.

The only reason Cameron didn’t succeed in his aim to kill Syrians is because his plans were thwarted by the House of Commons.

I thought it failed because the Queen wouldn’t let him use her armies…?

He’s a danger to the public. Surely he should be getting therapy in a mental hospital.

Yes as being a danger makes you ‘mental’. The 1920s is over, should we still send homosexuals and mothers who have kids out of marriage to mental hospitals too?

I thought it failed because the Queen wouldn’t let him use her armies…?

I heard she hid his passport.

I can see the attraction, they have Nutella! Throw in a Cadbury’s Creme egg and a packet of Monster Munch and I’d be on the next flight out!