Budget Oct 24 Thread

Quite. Average household income is around £36k pa. No-one is going to private school on that, so forgive me if I don’t shed any tears for those being asked to pay tax for their luxury goods.

& yet average UK salary is £34K pa.

& yet average UK salary is £34K pa.

Don’t confuse the average with what most people earn.

Pubs have always completed with home drinking, the problem pubs have is a social shift towards home drinking off the back of COVID.

Yes but when supermarkets started selling alcohol the prices dropped massively way below what pubs can do a pint for. Home drinking was big before covid it hasn’t changed much since then as people like to be social and the pub is still popular.

Don’t confuse the average with what most people earn.

That’s a figure I have been trying to find for a couple of days now.

Home drinking was big before covid it hasn’t changed much since then as people like to be social and the pub is still popular.

I’m sure my local rural publican will disagree with you, 10+ years ago it would have been filled with social drinkers. Now it’s the over 70’s and diners only. My daughter’s generation (especially rurally) just don’t go to the pub or clubs. Home drinking post COVID has caused the pubs to take a huge hit, one reason why hospitality gets money off a pint where as retail gets money on in every budget. There’s a huge cultural shift that’s moving away from pubs & clubs (and on to social media and phones).

Yes but when supermarkets started selling alcohol the prices dropped massively way below what pubs can do a pint for. Home drinking was big before covid it hasn’t changed much since then as people like to be social and the pub is still popular.

It was the best part of 40 years ago that supermarkets started selling alcohol.

For me the main reason is change of culture – example; 40 years ago we’d go to the pub at lunch, any day of the week from work.  Sometimes Fridays were 2-3 hours then back for a coffee and natter, drive home.  In fact in the early 80’s when I worked in Hull city centre, once a month we’d go to the lunchtime strip club, well the blokes would.

My daughter’s generation (especially rurally) just don’t go to the pub or clubs.

Kids don’t go to pubs and clubs mainly because they can’t afford 6 quid a pint. My 20 year old daughter worked in my local for 10 quid an hour and she always said drinking isn’t worth it once you realise that you have to work for an hour to drink a pint and a half. When she does go out with her mates they’ll preload on cheap vodka and only have a couple of pints in the pub.