[Closed] Brook Golovkin

Big step up in weight and class for brook obviously,what has he had now 30 odd fights? with no-one even near golovkins class,but then has golovkin had it all his own way because everyone is beaten by fear before they step in with him?.Oh and maybe because he hits like a mule aswell:).

I think Brook looks to have taken the extra weight well. In terms of whether he will win is another matter. I think he mat give a better account compared to the Khan v Alvarez. Has Brook been stopped? Its a shame Alvarez vacated rather than fight GGG. I'm still waiting for Superman v Kovalev.

Brook went life and death with Carson Jones

Golovkin destroys him

I'm still waiting for Superman v Kovalev

Kovalev Ward coming up 8)

Getting quite excited by this fight now.. Brook looking quite slick. A lot of pundits have highlighted the front foot to being the key to GGG power shots. Its quite remarkable how much power he can generate and the number of shots in succession whilst keeping his balance.

Its going to be a good fight.. Go special one!

Its going to be a good fight.. Go special one!

By good I assume you mean massacre?

At least Khan had the speed and range to keep Canelo off him for a good few rounds.

GGG will just walk Brook down. That left to the body 8)

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Liston/clay -Miami,foreman/ali -Kinshasa,douglas/Tyson- Tokyo,brook/golovkin-manchester....can you feel the shock coming? Nope neither did these unbeatable monsters. personally I don't think brook is all that but crazy shit sometimes happens to these unbeatable ogres,maybe not when someone comes up 2 weights tho.

I fear that Brook will last a while in there, that is never going to be good. GGG in 6-8.

Except none of the fights you've mentioned had the shock victor jumping up 2 weight divisions. Nor is Brook even fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Clay/Ali or even Douglas who over achieved that night plus I highly doubt GGG is coked up and not training a la Tyson pre Tokyo.

Brook has fought NO ONE!

Yeah, Brook won't have the power to deter GGG, unfortunately. Brook is a smart boxer, so the plan must be to outpoint Golovkin. Be fantastic if he upsets the odds, but can't see it! Retires on his stool after rnd 9.#

Oh yeah, like an idiot I've agreed to go to a party on Sat eve. A party! I hate parties! 🙁

It does make it all the more enticing seeing no one in GGGs division fancied a fight 🙂

Brook does look naturally bigger unlike Khan when he stepped up. I like an underdog story and in reality Brook will perform as well if not better than GGGs previous contenders.
You have to respect Brook for stepping into the ring with GGG and putting his 0 on the line. Yes I know money plays a large part but he is willing to step up and test himself against the current best P4P fighter.

Looking at the rankings, I can see why Kell would risk the fight. There are no big money fighters in the light mid division apart from Alvarez. I doubt he can make welter anymore, where Keith Thurman would've been another massive, but lower paid risk.
Those boring Charlo brothers at light middle wouldn't earn him much.
Maybe he'll move down and sort them both out on the same night after the GGG fight 🙂

[quote=DezB ]Looking at the rankings, I can see why Kell would risk the fight. There are no big money fighters in the light mid division apart from Alvarez. I doubt he can make welter anymore, where Keith Thurman would've been another massive, but lower paid risk.
Those boring Charlo brothers at light middle wouldn't earn him much.
Maybe he'll move down and sort them both out on the same night after the GGG fight

He'd make more money fighting Khan than he will GGG. Way more PPV buys for that.

Yeah but if he loses to GGG, then he'll still get the Khan fight, whereas if he lost to Khan, he wouldn't get GGG..

Yeah Golovkin's one of those win-win cliche situations, whereas Khan, lose that and... plummet

Last 2 posts are spot on. At worst for Brook this will be more exposure/ clamour/ PPV tokens for the fight with Khan. At best he could pull of a massive upset

I just can't see how anyone can make a case for Brook. The only fighter of any note on his ledger is Porter who he beat on a majority decision. Porter won his belt from Devon Alexander who couldn't punch his way out a wet paper bag and defended it against Malignaggi who couldn't punch his way out a wet paper bag even if you ripped it open for him.

Looking great against the likes of JoJo Dan, Frankie "funtime" Gavin and Kevin Bizier who are, quite frankly, nobodies at world level, does not give him the reputation to suggest he'll even remotely trouble GGG.

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Murder Death Kill

He certainly doesn't qualify as a title challenger at middleweight in the "real world" scheme of things. Good job boxing is so unpredictable innit!

It's feels so one sided I'd almost feel guilty watching.

[quote=DezB ]He certainly doesn't qualify as a title challenger at middleweight in the "real world" scheme of things. Good job boxing is so unpredictable innit!

The weight classes are a joke. So many alphabet titles and soft "world champions" in each division. You have jokers like Broner jumping up to fight Malignaggi and claim he's a bond fide WW champ 🙄

Anyway, never mind Brook, Gonzalez is fighting on Saturday night on Boxnation. Tempted to stay up for that.

But I'm sure we'll all tune in all the same to watch it on saturday night.. except those with invitations to parties ! 🙂

Atleast you will get a bang out of this fight.

[i]except those with invitations to parties ! [/i]

*SHAKES FIST* whyIoughta!

If I wasn't away I'd be buying this, not because its going to be competative, but because Brook has stepped up to the plate unlike some of the other 'top' fighters who have ducked him blatently. My distain for Alvarez grows by the day.

Agree with bob however, this will be brutal, no way can he keep him off for 12 rounds. GGG in 6, or less if he catches him earlier.

Monzon must be turning in his grave seeing Brook fight for the lineal MW crown..

At least its not Khan vs GGG however. Sanctioning that would be paramount to legalised murder.

Gonzalez is fighting on Saturday night on Boxnation

Brook went life and death with Carson Jones, he doesnt have great speed or length to keep GGG at bay. I expect a huge ring and for him to try and run and hope Uncle Eddie can sweeten the judges Golovkins footwork is outstanding and he will cut the ring down and break Brook down

I've heard a lot about him but is Roman Gonzales really that good ?

Yes. Unreal. It's just a shame he fights at such a low weight which rarely gets the attention outside the dedicated fans.

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I just can't see how anyone can make a case for Brook. The only fighter of any note on his ledger is Porter who he beat on a majority decision. Porter won his belt from Devon Alexander who couldn't punch his way out a wet paper bag and defended it against Malignaggi who couldn't punch his way out a wet paper bag even if you ripped it open for him.

I opened this thread to learn about a new saddle! As you were...

Hmm.

So GGG only arrived in the UK on Sunday. Doesn't give him much time to prep here. Been training up in Big Bear, jet lag etc. He cut the press conference short yesterday to go back to his hotel as he wasn't feeling well. On top of that, he looks like a corpse

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He may be ill or just got the weight cut wrong.

This could be interesting.

And maybe secretly underestimating a little-known welterweight making the jump to middle to challenge him... fingers crossed eh!

Bunce said the same thing - well one of them did- on 5 live boxing programme
Said he looked really low at the press conference

Hard to bet against triple G but brok is sounding confident

I think, as they said in the show, he is a boxer who really wants to test himself against the best rather than protect an 0

That deserves respect
Whether it turns out to be brave or stupid we will soon find out. Both I suspect

They were talking about him looking gaunt on the radio yesterday, I think it will make little difference. Could be all a put up job by Hearn 😆

I never know what to make of Steve Bunce, he managed to flip flop on the outcome about 4 times last night. I find him entertaining but never quite sure of how much he knows.

Hard to bet against triple G but brok is sounding confident

So did Hatton before Floyd & Manny

This golovkin hype train is out of control,clearly he is a very tough good boxer and is expected to win against a guy coming up to meet him,but you would swear golovkin has a record filled with wins against the sugar ray leonards of the day?? .

Please Sir .. I have a question.. could you not hit me in the face tomorrow...

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Brook looking in good shape..This has the hallmarks of Fury v Klitchko and we know how that went

but you would swear golovkin has a record filled with wins against the sugar ray leonards of the day?? .

You can only beat what is in front of you.

With Golovkin it's more about the way he's beaten them. (As gifs on the prev page have demonstrated)

I know golovkin is so feared people vacate the belt rather than face him,doesnt make his record better though does it,he's fought no-one outstanding,just like brook hasn't.

Styles makes fights and this one has it in abundance.. GGG not looking like a world champion at the moment but can a 75% GGG still win? It seems like this is as good a time to have a crack at him.

[quote=cheekymonkey888 ]Styles makes fights and this one has it in abundance.. GGG not looking like a world champion at the moment but can a 75% GGG still win? It seems like this is as good a time to have a crack at him.

He had full blown flu against Rosado

I think Brook has a decent chance if he executes a plan of boxing at distance then steps inside without being caught. He's a big welterweight and may just, may, keep the speed and gain some power. He has a decent punch and if he lands 2-3 in succession he hits big enough and quick enough to trouble GGG. Tall order especially if he gets over excited with some success or firing back but frankly I think they're respective opponents to date are quite similar but I do think Brook's best may be yet to come. Whether it is at middleweight now is something we'll know better at midnight!

I'm hoping for a Brook win but GGG seems a top bloke too.

Definitely looked like a proper middleweight at the weigh-in, Brook that is. Looked properly fit and ready.

Has Carl Froch had his nose done? Looks like a good job on that!

yep I didnt recognise the cobra ( looks like Plan B now ) ..its like Baby from Dirty dancing

GGG worked hard against Rosada. If he isnt on his game its going to be a long night

Great gag at the end of the Froch interview re him dropping to welterweight now it's been done!

Didn't hear that joke! Excellent 🙂

Is it on PPV or a regular sports channel?

Sky box office.

GGG looking back to his old self.. Brook better beware!

Fair play to brook for stepping up. I want to see ggg move up and test himself againt the bigger super middleweights. Him and james degale would be a good fight.

The ring walks are getting a bit silly these days.

brooke doing well here.

something up with right side of brooks face .. nice work by both..

Great so far. Brook is impressive

Only got it on the radio but sounds like a good fight - and the trainer played a blinder

That was abrupt.. the energy out of Brook.. I think the eye injury will be uncovered.. deserves a rematch if that is the case

Fantastic effort by Brook.. respect to Brook and showed some good skills. Awesome fight whilst it lasted..
@DezB wheres the party?

Great effort from Brook but he was getting hurt there. Very impressed with his aggression.

Brook suggests a broken eye socket in the second....

aye good effort, i think golovkin would have gone on to dominate later rounds if it went the distance.

decent fight though, wanted more!

Brook says I am surprised he didn't hit harder, broken eye socket in second round. Thank god Ingle threw the towel in.

Got home from party, skipped through 300 mins and watched it! Fantastic stuff while it lasted, in that 2nd round even got an inkling that Brook could outbox him. Made GGG look quite ordinary at times, but silly me, that 3rd round changed it all eh. Not many others could do that to Brook.

Fair play to Brook for taking him on, I didn't expect that tactic. In fact, it was ballsy but all wrong.

Imagine being so thick that you can sit there booing a boxer's trainer because he pulled "your" boxer out to save him from getting punished. "boo! you should of let him get annihilated" duh.

Agreed Dez. He was getting slaughtered at the end.

Brook had heart. I reckon he even took a round off of GGG.

He also actually had the balls to fight him, when most avoid fighting him like the plague.

The truth is, Galovkin in PvP the best in the world, probably the best middleweight of all time. He is a phenomenon. Iron hands and a jaw cut from Medusa stone.

GGG is maybe the best middle weight of this era but he isnt the greatest middleweight of all time Imho.

Who is then?

Robinson, Hagler, Monzon. Any of those were better than GGG Imo. They would have be to good for him.

Intersting that he said he wanted B.J.S. belt next,i haven't got twitter but I wonder if saunders has made any comment about arranging that fight as i'm sure he was watching and heard golovkin say it,or maybe he wants to keep the belt a bit longer:)

Eubanks JR's Twitter comment was hilarious

Always very difficult to compare across the eras - but i remember Hagler Hearns Duran and Leonard who were all very good but i have a feeling GGG would give them a real run for their money.

GGG v Hagler is a good one to imagine - Mr unstoppable force, please meet Mr immovable object.
Think Hagler would be too accomplished for GGG. Hearns was the magician of that era but the Marvelous one was a skilled technician. That's to go along with a chin made of depleted uranium and generally being harder than a coffin nail.

That time was just different gravy, though, compared to today's middleweight scene. I suspect we'll never know if GGG is an all time great as there's just not enough quality around for him to prove it [and he got a late start with his pro career]. Moving up seems like a stretch just looking at him, doesn't seem to have the frame for it, but maybe he could do something unexpected there at supermiddle.

Very good performance by brook.

Pity for ggg that the middleweight scene is a bit depleted at the moment. It would have been good to see him in against a prime hopkins, roy jones, gerald mcleland or james toney.

[i]That time was just different gravy, though, compared to today's middleweight scene.[/i]

Too right. GGG's great to watch and superb for this era, but couldn't have lived with the top 80s middleweights.
Look at how easily Kell landed on him... Leonard would've boxed his ears off I reckon.

Too right. GGG's great to watch and superb for this era, but couldn't have lived with the top 80s middleweights.
Look at how easily Kell landed on him... Leonard would've boxed his ears off I reckon.

Leonard only had two fights at MW and his record was won one, lost one

I think GGG legacy will be cemented when he takes the title from BJS. I think his lack of head movement is his Achilles heel much like when everyone realised they could jab Tyson's head off and slow him down. Ultimately taking 123 shots to let off your own isnt a good strategy in the long run.
An interesting prospect of GGG moving up and taking on some big boys would be a good move. A 2/3 weight world champion would move him up the ranks.

Can BJS run for 12 rounds to win? I doubt it more than I doubted Brook. Eubank jnr would have a chance given GGG can be hit and looked very uncomfortable going backwards but needs at least one more world class opponent.

BJS is very skilled but no dig on him at all AFAIK. Think GGG would just walk him down and it would be very one-sided.
Chance that GGG would take him lightly and something miraculous could happen - Golovkin's not bothered about taking shots from sluggers like Lemieux so he wouldn't be giving a monkeys about anything from BJS.

BIlly Joe is skillful, but doesn't strike me as anywhere near strong enough. He'd be up for the fight though, as he's a confident bugger. Can see that fight happening.

Just knew [i]someone[/i] would come along and do the trendy thing and diss Leonard 😆