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    kelvin
    Full Member

    Why on earth do you need a local representative in a country/region to meet local regulations.

    So, when it comes to product a recall in your market, there’s someone with the responsibility to do it.

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    mugsys_m8
    Free Member

    Hmmm. <looks out of window at EU mountains, before heading home to his home in the EU> …..Sounds like an opportunity to ME….

    dudeofdoom
    Full Member

    Also looking at his EU. Mountain range whilst hiding in the DoD Lair, the crazy world of Brexit benefits are that they are for people in the E.U. 🙂

    jameso
    Full Member

    Hmmm. <looks out of window at EU mountains, before heading home to his home in the EU> …..Sounds like an opportunity to ME….

    Wanna start a business? I have a file full of EU product regulations to offer : )

    thegeneralist
    Free Member

    Tax free shopping. Don’t get me wrong, it’s pissy in comparison to the negatives, but a few hundred quid each holiday is better than nowt Shirley?

    Just how much do you drink & smoke to save a “few hundred quid each holiday”?

    Not everything is about drinking…

    New skis, boots and bindings in Austria at half term…. £300 VAT refund.

    New avalanche tranciever at Christmas ditto

    4 Petzl Laser Speed light and an Ablokov threader about £50 back

    Doubt we’ll manage to get the tax back on the new Mantras as they are from France but…

    It’s weird that more people don’t mention it on the forum given that travelling and shopping seem to be some of the favourite hobbies….

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    onehundredthidiot
    Full Member

    Correct me if I’m wrong but you get the EU vat back so you can pay the UK VAT. It’s not a tax give away because you live in a different country. It’s the end of a convenient reciprocal arrangement that made things easier. You should still pay the tax AND probably an import duty too.

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    thecaptain
    Free Member

    Yebbut small scale smuggling and tax evasion is basically kosher innit?

    dudeofdoom
    Full Member

    Correct me if I’m wrong but you get the EU vat back so you can pay the UK VAT. It’s not a tax give away because you live in a different country. It’s the end of a convenient reciprocal arrangement that made things easier. You should still pay the tax AND probably an import duty too.

    https://www.gov.uk/bringing-goods-into-uk-personal-use/when-to-declare-goods

    Allowance for other goods
    You can bring in other goods worth up to £390 (or up to £270 if you arrive by private plane or boat).

    If you go over your allowance you pay tax and duty on the total value of the goods, not just the value above the allowance.
    You may have to pay import VAT and customs duty if you exceed your allowance.

    It’s up to you to declare, but they are also allowed to seize your transport as well as your toys 🙂

    Dunno how well it’s being ‘enforced’ (which makes a mockery of ‘taking control of our borders’)

    thegeneralist
    Free Member

    Interesting that I can’t see anything in that link differentiating between goods that have paid EU VAT and those that don’t.  So essentially shit loads of people will be falling foul of the following:

    Yebbut small scale smuggling and tax evasion is basically kosher innit?

    No?

    Cougar2
    Free Member

    I suppose a degree of common sense has to be applied. “Anything to declare, sir?” – “yes, I bought a tee-shirt from a tat shop in Magaluf.”

    onehundredthidiot
    Full Member

    New skis, boots and bindings in Austria at half term…. £300 VAT refund.

    New avalanche tranciever at Christmas ditto

    4 Petzl Laser Speed light and an Ablokov threader about £50 back

    That’s more than the £390 allowance. Not judging as I was considering getting a bike in Andorra but the confusion around VAT etc and the fact I got a UK bargain settled things.

    thegeneralist
    Free Member

    bought a tee-shirt from a tat shop in Magaluf

    Mmm but back to the example being discussed….  there’s loads of ski shops in ski resorts. There’s loads of Brits in ski resorts. I imagine a fair number of those Brits buy skis or boots and stuff whilst on holiday.  Are all the ones that don’t declare them returning through customs breaking the law and theoretically liable to seizure of vehicle if driving?

    ( Apart from the ones buying kit under £390 natch)

    That’s more than the £390 allowance

    Yep agreed. But my wife brought the bindings and one boot back, the kids brought one ski each and I carried the other boot and the skins. Or something. 🙂

    kilo
    Full Member

    Are all the ones that don’t declare them returning through customs breaking the law and theoretically liable to seizure of vehicle if driving?

    If the goods were liable to a duty being paid on importation to the UK then yes the people are breaking the law and yes, technically their vehicle would be liable to seizure (Customs & Excise Managment Act 1979, s167 & s141) however for such a low value crime the seizure of a vehicle is unlikely – if it was stuffed full of Benson and Hedges that may not be the case.

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    scotroutes
    Full Member

    Another Brexit benefit.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yg1471rwpo

    Without the shortage of skilled labour, large parts of the countryside would flooded with new housing.

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    dudeofdoom
    Full Member

    Yep agreed. But my wife brought the bindings and one boot back, the kids brought one ski each and I carried the other boot and the skins. Or something. ?

    Nah, that  line

    You cannot combine your personal allowance with anyone else.

    you’d have to be able to produce a receipt for each thing and share them  about.

    Remember that taking sports equipment on holiday and returning with sports equipment or a bike or even spare parts is not an unexpected event and you don’t log exactly what you left the country with 🙂

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    dudeofdoom
    Full Member

    If the goods were liable to a duty being paid on importation to the UK then yes the people are breaking the law

    Don’t forget the VAT,even if you’ve already paid local VAT on it it’s still liable for U.K. VAT 🙁

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    matt_outandabout
    Free Member

    Remember that taking sports equipment on holiday and returning with sports equipment or a bike or even spare parts is not an unexpected event and you don’t log exactly what you left the country with

    And this cost me £700 earlier this year in import and vat, having already paid vat at source and unable to claim back…

    thegeneralist
    Free Member

    And this cost me £700 earlier this year in import and vat, having already paid vat at source and unable to claim back…

    That sounds harsh and unlucky. Tell us more…

    Was this something you were carrying?

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    Cougar2
    Free Member

    Brexit has benefitted a warehouse owner.

    https://twitter.com/cathynewman/status/1867619257053590011

    Cathy Newman @cathynewman
    Chairman of @marksandspencer Archie Norman @therealarchie tells me on @TimesRadio that Brexit means they’ve had to hire a warehouse just to store the paperwork needed to export to the Republic of Ireland….

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    Cougar2
    Free Member
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    tjagain
    Full Member

    Not in any significant way is he doing that.  Without accepting the 4 freedoms there can be no real rapprochement and refusing the young peoples mobility scheme really annoyed many in the EU

    Edukator
    Free Member

    On a similar theme did anyone take teamhurtmore’s advice on the original Brexit thread of: “[Go long Dublin apartments]”?

    chrismac
    Full Member

    Are all the ones that don’t declare them returning through customs breaking the law and theoretically liable to seizure of vehicle

    O don’t think they are if they use them before returning. I think VAT and import duty only apply to new goods. If you buy the skis at the beginning of the trip and use them for the week you are no longer importing new goods. A technically but that’s what the law states. A friend of mine did it when buying a kayak in the USA.

    thegeneralist
    Free Member

    don’t think they are if they use them before returning. I think VAT and import duty only apply to new goods. If you buy the skis at the beginning of the trip and use them for the week you are no longer importing new goods. A technically but that’s what the law states

    I was indeed wondering about that. Any source for it?   ( I will of course search myself)

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    nickjb
    Free Member

    Also

    Let’s hope so. I suspect most of would like a rapid return to EU membership but the reality is it will take time. Baby steps are better than no steps.

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    kilo
    Full Member

     I think VAT and import duty only apply to new goods. If you buy the skis at the beginning of the trip and use them for the week you are no longer importing new goods. A technically but that’s what the law states.

    Import duty and vat is based on value not being second hand, customs relief on ownership doesn’t apply for goods you’ve owned a week. If you have owned something for a week customs are likely to say the relevant valuation is the price you paid a week or go. But don’t worry middle class crime is fine.

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    susepic
    Full Member

    I reckon that things will look stuck for a while on rejoin, and then very quickly lots will happen to do CU and SM. They know, we know, even effing Faridge knows, that the only way we get back to growth is EU trade.

    And I suspect that Starmer will prefer that as a means to growth than kowtowing to NUFC

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    Murray
    Full Member

    I found one! Not a benefit for consumers or most businesses but definitely a benefit of you’re a card scheme.

    Visa and MasterCard took the opportunity to raise cross-border interchange fees fivefold from 0.2% to 1.15% for debit cards and 0.3% to 1.5% for credit cards. This post-Brexit increase, says the PSR, is costing businesses £150-200 million extra per year.

    https://www.finextra.com/newsarticle/45219/uk-regulator-psr-plans-cap-on-cross-border-card-fees

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    intheborders
    Free Member

    New skis, boots and bindings in Austria at half term…. £300 VAT refund.

    So you’re a Smuggler now, are you going to turn yourself in or do we?

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    dudeofdoom
    Full Member

    TBH it’s no different to those holidays to America where you go with the minimum of clothing and just send the receipts to yourself in the post for  those other cameras , watches and toys that fell into your suitcase 🙂

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    dudeofdoom
    Full Member

    They know, we know, even effing Faridge knows, that the only way we get back to growth is EU trade.

    He doesn’t want to talk about Brexit anymore,it won’t return the votes he needs as Brexits been done,Immigrations the new Gravy Train  for him.

    Speeder
    Full Member

    mugsys_m8
    Hmmm. <looks out of window at EU mountains, before heading home to his home in the EU> …..Sounds like an opportunity to ME….

    if I had the freedom to do it I’d be setting up an agency to do exactly this and I’d base it in Morzine,  But sadly I’m British and apparently surrounded by muppets, so can’t.

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    nickc
    Full Member

    Not in any significant way is he doing that.  Without accepting the 4 freedoms there can be no real rapprochement and refusing the young peoples mobility scheme really annoyed many in the EU

    Not significant to you maybe, but by the same token you’re not the yard stick by which ‘progress towards closer ties’ should be measured There’s quite a bit of ground between active policies of exclusion and divergence on the one hand and a de facto membership of the EU in all but name on the other that would make trading and travelling a bunch more simple.

    thecaptain
    Free Member

    There’s quite a bit of ground between active policies of exclusion and divergence on the one hand and a de facto membership of the EU in all but name on the other

    LOL how are those imaginary cherries tasting then?

    We can of course accept as many of their rules as we want, in order to satisfy their requirements. And abandon any hope of the supposed “brexit benefits”. I’d be happy with that but you can bet the headbangers wouldn’t. And it would at best be a lot shitter than what we had before all this nonsense kicked off.

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    doomanic
    Full Member

    We are never going to get back to where we were, the best we can hope for is that we end up somewhere better than here. Hopefully before I retire so I can eff off to sunnier climes.

    chrismac
    Full Member

    was indeed wondering about that. Any source for it?   ( I will of course search myself)

    I cant find one but it all seems to hinge on the value of the goods and as used they no longer have the same value as new ones

    i did find this


    https://www.gov.uk/bringing-goods-into-uk-personal-use/arriving-in-Great-Britain

    This suggests that if you can show its from the eu th limit is £1000 per item

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    Cougar2
    Free Member

    Via LinkedIn, presented without fact-checking, hashtag do your own research:

    Laura Roman
    • 6 hours ago

    Guess what’s about to be illegal?

    ? Hiding salaries!

    The EU is shaking things up with its Pay Transparency Directive, kicking in from June 2026.

    Here’s the scoop:

    ? Salary history questions = BANNED
    Employers won’t be allowed to ask candidates their current or previous salaries. FINALLY ?

    ? Mandatory salary disclosure
    Employers must include the salary range in the job ad or, at the very least, disclose it before the interview. No more guessing games and wasted time ?‍♀️

    This is a huge win for fairness and transparency in hiring.

    As a recruiter (and, you know, a human), I always include salaries in my job posts. It just feels like the right thing to do.

    But should it be a legal requirement?
    Should the UK adopt similar pay transparency laws? ?

    What’s your take?

    doomanic
    Full Member

    We’re going through a salary review right now and the first person in the same department as me has a clause in his new contract forbidding any discussion of his salary with colleagues…

    intheborders
    Free Member

    We’re going through a salary review right now and the first person in the same department as me has a clause in his new contract forbidding any discussion of his salary with colleagues…

    What’s the ‘cost’ if they were found to?

    mattyfez
    Full Member

    What’s the ‘cost’ if they were found to?

    I doubt it’s legally enforcable to punish people for sharing their salaries? You’d probably have a target on your back after that though.

    I think it should absolutley be transparent… I once got a 3k pay rise out of the blue, and thought ‘how nice!, I’m valued!’.

    Turns out I was getting paid 3k less than the person who sits next to me doing the same job, who was also a less experienced, newer hire, I got on with them very well, and I think my manager put two and two together, and equalised us before I inevitably found out and went nuts.

    In retrospect, that was the catalyst for me becoming a ‘silent quitter’… I probably cost the company a lot more than that over the next few years by basicaly not giving AF.

    In my insustry, the only way to get a decent pay rise is to get a new job with a different company once every few years, but then that looks bad on the CV if you are a job hopper.

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