Bread…what to replace it with/alternatives

After 30 years of eating porridge (Dorset Cereals just now) I’m actually going off it and not clearing my bowl! Scrambled eggs with cheese just tastes more yummy.

Definitely not pregnant btw. 😉

Have you tried porage with raisins, chopped dried apricots, honey or any other strange non-ethnic additions? Oh, and Scotts’ Old Fashioned beats Dorset.

No but wondering whether my body has had enough of gluten, what with eating bread for lunch. Don’t really understand it!

No but wondering whether my body has had enough of gluten, what with eating bread for lunch. Don’t really understand it!

You realise Oats contain negligible gluten, right?

nickc – Member

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Yeap! because everyone else has… Yeasch!

You realise Oats contain negligible gluten, right?

I bet you can tell me about all the goodness in oats, specifically.

As well as how much is negligible.

As well as how much is ]negligible.

Only that which gets there by contamination from other grains processed in the same plant. Coeliacs can eat porridge.
https://www.coeliac.org.uk/gluten-free-diet-and-lifestyle/gf-diet/oats/

Negligible? Can you quantify that please? There’s very few g-f oats, last time I looked.

Edit: thanks. 🙂

After 30 years of eating porridge (Dorset Cereals just now) I’m actually going off it and not clearing my bowl! Scrambled eggs with cheese just tastes more yummy.

It could be you’re just bored of it!

Anyway, porridge+banana+honey FTW. Although I quite like the sound of raisins.

It could be you’re just bored of it!

That. How about Bircher Muesli?

Why grains are unhealthy

Need to do some label checking, it has raspberries.

Only that which gets there by contamination

Selective answering, I appear to have missed your goodness list for oats…
Here, please allow me assist you:

100g of oats:
389 calories
16.9 grams protein
66 grams carbohydrate
10.6 grams fiber (with just under half soluble)
7 grams fat (about half PUFA and half MUFA)
4.72 mg iron
177 mg magnesium
3.97 mg zinc
0.6 mg copper
4.9 mg manganese

Oh, carbs again. Then there’s the phytic acid which has a tendancy to bind to the nutrients listed above, thus rendering those nutrients unavailable for absorption. Then there’s avenin too.

Carry on!
😉

Edit:
Amused by suggestions to add honey, raisins, bananas, (adding carbs to carbs lol)etc. Anyone would think that plain oats are rather tasteless, boring….
😉

This bloke will be upsetting the Establishment by challenging existing schools of thought. His new book is very good and an eye-opener.

Thinking about obesity and diabetes

Various Bircher Muesli options here by the way.
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2014/oct/23/how-to-make-perfect-bircher-muesli-recipe

Selective answering, I appear to have missed your goodness list for oats…

No, that just wasn’t the question I was answering.

No, that just wasn’t the question I was answering.
That’ll be selective answering then, or to put it another way. You’re promoting oats, but you’re not too sure about how good they are for us.
Thank you.
🙂

CG.

Just read your link, very interesting.
Thank you.
🙂

No, that just wasn’t the question I was answering.
That’ll be selective answering then, or to put it another way. You’re promoting oats, but you’re not too sure about how good they are for us.

Except he hasn’t actually been promoting oats, simply pointing out they have negligible gluten.

Anyway, I like porridge for breakfast and I heartily recommend it. It keeps me feeling fed for at least 4-5 hours, I don’t feel bloated when I go for a ride or a run after eating it, and it tastes nice. And it’s got carbs in it, which are quite handy when you’re planning on doing exercise.

Solo – you’re welcome. 🙂 His latest book is both enlightening and frightening.

lemonysam – Member

“The Mrs and I have stopped eating bread potatoes pasta and white rice. We are eating a more varied diet that includes more fresh vegetables, nuts, fruit, beans and pulses. Its good and variety is the greatest benefit.”
Then why not eat an even more varied diet by also including bread, potatoes, pasta and white rice?
Divisive.

mogrim – Member
Except he hasn’t actually been promoting oats, simply pointing out they have negligible gluten.

lemonysam – Member
“No but wondering whether my body has had enough of gluten, what with eating bread for lunch. Don’t really understand it!”
You realise Oats contain negligible gluten, right?

Unnecessary effort at embarrassing another member about their knowledge of the gluten content in oats, was sufficient, imo.

You see, for those if us who worship at the shrine of CaptMolgrips (long sleeve cycling jerseys). It’s becomes obvious that promoting the consumption of dubious food items such as grains and bread, in the context that we’re all slightly different, so more, some less obesogenic, is irresponsible. Where as to recommend caution when consuming certain foods, about which there is no clear consensus can be helpful.

Anyway, I like porridge for breakfast and I heartily recommend it. It keeps me feeling fed for at least 4-5 hours, I don’t feel bloated when I go for a ride or a run after eating it, and it tastes nice.
Well thank you for that generous view onto your life and your habits.
Good night.

cinnamon_girl – Member

Solo – you’re welcome. His latest book is both enlightening and frightening.

I’m always up for learning from sensible info offered by others. I know what you mean with the frightening statement. My eyes opened quite a lot at times, while reading the diet delusion. Especially the bit about triglycerides, LDL cholesterol and IDE.
🙂

That link about diabetes is interesting. In a way. He promotes the conclusion that insulin is lipogenic as if it’s a revolutionary conclusion when it’s been on the wikipedia page for years 🙂

Maybe we could lose weight by avoiding foods that promote the production of insulin. I’m calling it the iMol diet…

You see, for those if us who worship at the shrine of CaptMolgrips (long sleeve cycling jerseys). It’s becomes obvious that promoting the consumption of dubious food items such as grains and bread, in the context that we’re all slightly different, so more, some less obesogenic, is irresponsible. Where as to recommend caution when consuming certain foods, about which there is no clear consensus can be helpful.

[bijou rantette]

This, like a lot of your posts; makes absolutely no sense grammatically. Whilst you probably have something to contribute, you may want to think about contributing in a way that means I don’t have to spend 10 mins trying to decipher what you’re trying to say.

[/ bijou rantette]

Bu Bu Bu Bu But how do you have baked beans on toast without the toast?…………………That would just be…….. Baked Beans 😯

Baked beans on ryvita, and because you’ve been good, a fried egg on top.

Baked beans on ryvita, and because you’ve been good, a fried egg on top.

I can see shards of ryvita flying everywhere

Ever melted cheese on ryvita? It’s bloody awful. It actually makes a ryvita worse, which is some achievement.

Bread rocks. As do chips, crisps, grot, the smell of your own farts, overtaking and bacon.

Just stick to one of them a day.

My other half can’t eat gluten and also has a reaction to oats. It isn’t because they’ve been contaminated, as he’s tried ones that aren’t and he’s also not that sensitive (he can get away with small amounts of wheat gluten). There’s protein in oats (avenins), I think, perhaps it’s this that’s the problem. I also can’t seem to tolerate them, I get indigestion.

You’ve got to hand it to ryvita. Taking all that cardboard in people’s recycling bins, and cutting it up into squares? The profit margins must be huge!

I’m just about to cook some whopping big Wiltshire cured gammon steaks, big chunky chips and a couple of fried eggs. I’m going to make chip butties with thick white bread, and dip ’em in the runny egg

Just sayin’ 😀

Do you take (and not refund) Paypal?

Not usually, but I will make an exception for you 🙂

Btw, for those wanting a super low GI snack/small meal along beans on toast lines – try half a tin of refried beans heated up, with grated cheese and hot sauce on top. Bloody lovely!

Incidentally – I know cheese was prohibited on the iDiet, but the only research I can find on insulin index rates cheese very low – and on the molgrips satiety scale it rates very highly in that a little of it makes a meal far more satisfying.

+1 on cheese. Seems to work for me and offers a much wider range of meal options.

Some of you might be interested in this week’s food programme The Grain Divide about “heritage” grains. Not something I’ve really invested all that much time in baking with but still an interesting topic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b050yh95

It’s really an extended trailer for this film which I’ve been looking forward to for a while:
http://thegraindivide.com/

Thanks, will give that a listen. I’ve seen grains like spelt and khorasan on the shelves and wondered whether they were any more “natural”/”better” than modern wheat (which has no doubt been selectively cross bred extensively) or whether it’s just another way of seperating the health food victims from their hard-earned!

I’ve seen grains like spelt and khorasan on the shelves and wondered whether they were any more “natural”/”better” than modern wheat (which has no doubt been selectively cross bred extensively) or whether it’s just another way of seperating the health food victims from their hard-earned!

Little from column A, little from column B. Some of them aren’t really all that interesting but others do give significantly different flavours and textures to bakes. I actually find the differences are more interesting in cakes than in breads.