Boris Johnson!

I know someone who reported to him directly at the FCO. There’s no doubting he’s smart. There’s no doubting he can “rally the troops” and make people feel special. All the doubt comes when it comes to his diligence and motivations. Personally, I’d label him as lazy and entirely self serving, even when he uses his considerable skills in persuading people that he has their interests at heart and will do everything he can to further those interests for them (he doesn’t, he won’t). I wouldn’t trust him with my wallet… and I wouldn’t say that about any other PM we’ve had, even those I politically disagree with on every level.

The fly-tipped sofa is being interviewed by Matt Chorley on Five Live if anyone can put themselves through it. I’ll see how long I last before hoofing the radio across the room then setting fire to it

Another recommendation for “Johnson at 10” here too.

I’m looking forward to the Truss one too. Should while away an hour or so.

I’m looking forward to the Truss one too.

He doesn’t hold back. It’s like reading one of those fake Alan Partridge memoirs, only, y’know, real. Paints a mostly awful picture about the limitlessness of ambition when it’s not held back by the very obvious limits of intellect.

Matthew Paris said much the same, summarising Truss devastatingly accurately in a single sentence during her leadership campaign

I managed to listen to a bit of his self-serving fantasist drivel until they got to Brexit and apparently the fact there was no plan whatsoever after they won was David Cameron’s fault.

According to Boris, it was entirely’Daves’ fault that there was no plan as to what the **** to do in the event of a ‘Leave’ vote

Nothing whatsoever to do with Johnson and the opportunistic ****-wits who advocated it, obviously

As the figurehead for it all, why would any plan have anything to do with him? Nothing to do with me guv. It’s somebody else’s responsibility to sort out all the shit I just caused

His sense of entitlement is off the ****ing scale

An utter utter ****!

It’s actually pointless being angry, we just need to accept that **** live amongst us.

I managed to listen to a bit of his self-serving fantasist drivel until they got to Brexit and apparently the fact there was no plan whatsoever after they won was David Cameron’s fault.

According to Boris, it was entirely’Daves’ fault that there was no plan as to what the **** to do in the event of a ‘Leave’ vote

Then follow that up with “The Oven Ready Deal”.

I listened to snippets of Nick Ferraris interview with him, and would only be repeating Binners posts if I summarised, and he adds criticism of the current government.   He even denies the Parties in no 10 still.

Such an odious character which only gets lower on the scale every time he surfaces.

He even denies the Parties in no 10 still.

He’ll be taking formal legal action against the Met to clear his name, then?

Oh no, that’s right, he won’t. He’ll insinuate and lie openly right up to the point it could become formal then invent an excuse to scuttle away.

He’s a **** ****.

I mean, tbf, Cameron does bear a lot of the blame for the whole Brexit debacle. He was PM! To set that ball rolling and then just scarper like a guilty child when it all went wrong was an absolute dereliction of duty. Arguably a worse PM (in terms of serious damage done to the country) than Boris if you ask me.

Cameron’s colossal arrogance combined with insecurity was his fatal weakness – one exploited perfectly by Leave.

His insecurity led to him announcing a Brexit referendum would be held.

His arrogance in assuming that his mere endorsement of Remain would prove enough was a big factor in the bit of a mess we have ended up with.

He completely misunderstood the impacts of the 2008 Financial meltdown, MPs expenses and austerity for everyone else.

He also massively overestimated the intellect of the average voter.

But these are all mistakes. Albeit ridiculous and extremely consequential ones.

Johnson is different. An entirely cynical liar who has no interest in anything other than his own self-interest.

If Cameron had come out to that lectern and said something like “clearly there’s an issue here so let’s work on a framework for setting out the options for what people want, rather than what they don’t want, with me still in charge”, it would have fizzled out waiting for an actual plan, instead of, well you know.

Look at it’s eyes, even the dog hates him.

https://x.com/BorisJohnson/status/1843586733994324043

https://x.com/BorisJohnson/status/1843586733994324043

Cameron is an absolute idiot for giving us an advisory referendum instead of a legally binding one with a 60/40 cut instead of a narrow “victory” which incidentally also allowed the leave campaign to break rules with no comeback – but Johnson is just a lying self serving shit – both elevated above their innate abilities by their upper class backgrounds.

He completely misunderstood the impacts of the 2008 Financial meltdown, MPs expenses and austerity for everyone else.

I was today enjoying my lunchtime stroll listening to the More or Less podcast from Radio 4.

This one:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0j0t5yf?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

I’d not ever understood the impact of 2008 on the country. It’s worth a listen (context is, it’s about the “fastest growing economy” line and provides the background. If you don’t enjoy it, you’ve lost 28 mins of your life, so sue me)

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it’s about the “fastest growing economy” line and provides the background.

Gaaaahhhhhhhhh. God I hate this shit. everyone else has a recovery, we essentially don’t, and then when they inevitably slow we celebrate because for one week we outrun them. It’s like the obsession with recessions, .000001% reduction for 2 quarters is a disaster, 1% reduction followed by .000001% improvement is a recovery. It’s jsut an absolute nightmare that the easiest to understand version of events is also really false.

I used to do a job where we had a limited number of places to fill. Most years we’d fill most of them, it’d vary a little bit, but tbf it had very little to do with anythign we did that year, it was mostly about demographics. But then one year we filled them all, and oh my god, the howls of derision when we said “next year we will definitely not fill more places”. Surrounded by intelligent people but nobody could grasp reversions to the mean, or “we did as well as we possibly could this year, please stop asking us to do better”.

Course, we did treat every .0000001% increase as proof of our absolute genius and hard work, and every 1% decrease as being just unavoidable market stuff, we’re only human.

Look at it’s eyes, even the dog hates him.

If your own dog doesn’t like you, you should take a good long look in the mirror..

It’s clear to me that dog is nothing more than a prop. Poor thing.

If your own dog doesn’t like you, you should take a good long look in the mirror..

In that first X vid, did anyone else think he was just about to kick the dog into the air like a rugby ball?

He did seem to just drop it from waist height.

I thought Bartlett would never have entertained him…

It’s clear to me that dog is nothing more than a prop.

Everything and everyone is just a prop to him. He’s a complete sociopath!

One of the Thick Of It Writers was on Five Live before. He made a good point about him. He said that 10 years ago he was seen as this bumbling, amiable buffoon and after everything thats happened he thinks he can just return to that. He can’t because… well.. where do you even start…

So now he’s just really resentful that people won’t view him as before (other than some brainless idiots) due to such trifling matters as Brexit, all the Covid dead, Partygate and everything else on the list of things that showed him to us all for what he really is

Brexit, all the Covid dead, Partygate

You missed off (at least):

Illegally proroguing parliament.

Lying to the Queen (my golly gosh).

Porking another woman on the family sofa whilst his wife was undergoing cancer treatment.

Using £100k of taxpayer money to get his leg over with Jennifer Arcuri.

To name but a few. I was going to say “breaking his wife’s nose with a punch” but that was his old man, wasn’t it…

Still, amiable buffoon, right?

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/ckgnlj3g95mo

If a proven liar writes a book explaining that what he said was lies, then, in the interview says they are not lies, are they lies?

Lies²

I’m refusing to fuel this ****’s publicity in any form (apart from in this thread).

I’m with scuttler.

I’m not going to rile myself up by actively seeking out Johnson’s bullshit and it giving him ‘views’ or ‘hits’. It only makes me angry.

I’m going to do my level best to pretend he doesn’t exist – which, if it was true, would have been a better situation by far for most people.

The lying, narcissistic, cynical, cheating scumbag.

I’m not going to rile myself up by actively seeking out Johnson’s bullshit

Private Eye have saved everyone a bit of bother by compressing and optimising the book for us

I hate to agree with Johnson, but he’s right that, following the referendum, Cameron’s government should have prepared a white paper on how to respond to the referendum result, not just f’ed off.

Cameron’s government should have prepared a white paper on how to respond to the referendum result

Anything the “Remain” camp put forward as a plan would have been portrayed as a “betrayal of the vote”. Cameron “led” the remain campaign, he couldn’t be the one to plan the next steps. I suppose he could have tried, but how could it have gone well?

he’s right that, following the referendum, Cameron’s government should have prepared a white paper

Nah, he’s only saying this because he knows it’s not worked. As he has done all through his life, he takes no responsibility for failures and looks to blame others.

Had it worked, then he would be claiming ownership.

For the muppets that voted leave and Tory in 2019

The period after the vote but before the s. 51 letter was the one time UK had the advantage.  It should have been exploited.

Nah, he’s only saying this because he knows it’s not worked. As he has done all through his life, he takes no responsibility for failures and looks to blame others.

Had it worked, then he would be claiming ownership.

For the muppets that voted leave and Tory in 2019

Exactly.. the public were never sold a ‘crash out’  ‘hard brexit’ – it was always “we’ll stay in the customs union, we’ll do a ‘Norway type deal” etc, etc.

But that’s not what Johnsons government delivered, the UK negociators insisted on extraordinary dispensations that were always totally incompatible with the EU framework, not to mention the international peace treaty in place between the UK and Ireland…so we basically crashed out with no deal at all, which it the worst possible outcome for both UK citizens, and the EU.

So now we have what is known as, in techincal terms, a bit of a mess.

Exactly.. the public were never sold a ‘crash out’  ‘hard brexit’ – it was always “we’ll stay in the customs union, we’ll do a ‘Norway type deal” etc, etc.

Which I is why I want starmer  to deliver the brexit “we” voted for.

Which I is why I want starmer to deliver the brexit “we” voted for.

I thought it was pretty evil the way Starmer dismissed ideas from the EU to allow people under 30yo more freedom of movement, but also on the flip side, that could be construed as discrimination if UK citizens under 30 have more rights than those over 30…that would be a legal can of worms.

But that’s the position we put ourselves in… at the end of the day 51% of UK voters voted to hurt the entire UK.

If Cameron, or indeed May, had any backbone, they would have played on the advisory aspect of the referendum, and the lack of checks and balances, and indeed the total lack of forward planning… (they were both ‘remainers’ afterall).

EDIT:

In fact, so was Johnson… they are all so bloody spineless and petrified over losing a few votes to UKIP, they shafted the entire country to save a bit of face in the press.

And now look at them, the UKIP/Reform vote cut the tory vote in half at the last GE, so they accomlished the net sum of sweet F*** all, and wasted an intangible amount of public money in doing so.

And Starmer seems to be following the tory playbook.. too scared of losing a few vote to the far right.

Be careful what you wish for….