Bogtrotters ride the Ben on a bank holiday!

hilldodger – Member
People passed safely and politely, riders looked pretty much in control and prepared to stop/dismount when needed.

9:30 or thereabouts. The woman coming uphill has to take evasive action OFF the path because there is a biker coming downhill at her.

TJ you won’t be moved but you are being a little pedantic, i rode down dollywagons in the lakes and there were a lot more walkers on it than that video, plus it is a lot narrower but i had no issues, i had a laugh with the walkers and all those that moved did so because we have to share the route not becuase i was going to run them over.

again my opinion is they have done nothing wrong, probably could of picked a less busy day so they could of had a better descent but hey ho at least they were polite.

i respect your opinion of course and that of others who have said they are out of order.

TJ, it doesn’t matter where the trail is. There are plenty of tracks like that in the Peaks, Lakes, Wales, all with the same rights of access and (by and large), regardless of the give way code (ie MTBers are supposed to give way to anything and everything cos we’re the lowest of the low), most sensible walkers will stand aside and let a descending biker through. It’s easier for all concerned.

I don’t see a problem with that video. Two bikers, both being polite. Various, mostly polite, walkers. All out enjoying themselves.

Was getting a bit bored until I chanced on this 😀

Think a beer from the fridge and a comfy sofa is called for….

The next time there’s a thread on this forum or an article elsewhere on the website decrying the fact that bike access in England and Wales is restricted, someone need merely post a link to this thread to see why.

Philfive – this is not in the lakes. this is in Scotland. Read the guidence I quoted.

To force walkers off the path is not acceptable. You have to give way to them.

oh god don’t mention Dollywaggon to ol’ TJ or he’ll have a frikken embolism 🙁

hey Granville!! (AKA pennine)

crazy-legs – Member

TJ, it doesn’t matter where the trail is.

Yes it does. Its in Scotland Read the guidance. Its not the same as a bridleway.

You are not being reasonable therefore have no right to access if you behave like that. Clear and simple.

I’m thinking of a colour and I’m thinking of two things you might find in a kitchen.

One starts with P and one starts with K.

Can you guess what they are?

decrying the fact that bike access in England and Wales is restricted

actually, it isn’t, that’s just a myth. I’ve been testing it for many years without let or hindrance…

penis and Klingon ??

crikey – Member
I’m thinking of a colour and I’m thinking of two things you might find in a kitchen.

One starts with P and one starts with K.

Can you guess what they are?
/Pedant mode

Black isn’t a colour

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🙂

I’m thinking of someone who propels cabers at highland games.

One starts with P and one starts with K.

Purple Koolaid

electric Koolaid?

TJ. That cuts both ways. For ANYONE to force anyone else off a public right of way is out of order. Be that a biker forcing s walker or the other way round. I’ve been forced off trails before by horse riders, walkers, 4x4s… Equally, I’m sure I could find a walker or 3 who can claim to have been forced off by a biker. Not right but it happens occasionally, almost always cos of people being stupid. Either the ones doing the forcing or the self righteous twunts who don’t take the common sense approach and adopt the “I have right of way so I’m not moving”.

I knew someone would say that!

How about I’m thinking of the other bit of a Zebra crossing that is not the white bit?

crazy-legs – Member
TJ. That cuts both ways. For ANYONE to force anyone else off a public right of way is out of order. Be that a biker forcing s walker or the other way round. I’ve been forced off trails before by horse riders, walkers, 4x4s… Equally, I’m sure I could find a walker or 3 who can claim to have been forced off by a biker. Not right but it happens occasionally, almost always cos of people being stupid. Either the ones doing the forcing or the self righteous twunts who don’t take the common sense approach and adopt the “I have right of way so I’m not moving”.

Err – I dunno what you are on about but the rest of us are discussing that Youtube video.

not the white bit?

racialist

No crazy legs – not in Scotland read the guidance. Cyclists have to give way to walkers. Numerous walkers were forced of the path by these idiots.

give other users advance warning of your presence and give way to them on a narrow path.

Oh no, I forgot about Mr. Woppit!

but those rules are subjective, some poeple say they are riding with disregard others say they are fine. it’s all open to interpretation.

Putting aside responsible access for a moment, why would you choose to do that? ‘Because I can’?

It’s just a crap idea.

Is the clue not in the name, “Guidance”?

exactly Paul.

why would you choose to do that?

I suppose because they wanted to, and they enjoyed it ?

I didn’t think they were acting too badly. The video reminds me how that route up Ben Nevis is one of the most soul destroying paths in the country. Tower Ridge would have been a far more interesting descent!

paulrockliffe – Member
Is the clue not in the name, “Guidance”?

That’s from the Scottish Outdoor Access Code, a document which was drawn at the request of the Scottish Government up to outline what was and wasn’t considered to be responsible access as defined by the Land Reform(Scotland) Act – i.e. it carries significant legal weight.

Phil / paul. the guidence makes up a part of the law in that its how your “responsible” access is defined. You have an absolute duty to give way to walkers on narrow paths, they did not do this. They were forcing walkers off the path

It are open to interpretation – but this is clearly a breach of the guidance thus the code. No way could riding like that be considered “giving way”

None of the folk who thing this acceptable are Scottish riders ( I think) who understand the Scottish consensus on land access

Quick look through the posting history of those saying they cant see the issue , they all seem to reside in england

All those sayng its stupid are living in scotland

pattern , i think so. Just like lager louts in marbella acting like its manchester on a friday night

Just keep pissing the locals off , knock your self out! As long as you have a good time and we are left picking up the pieces

All those sayng its stupid are living in scotland
pattern , i think so. Just like lager louts in marbella acting like its manchester on a friday night

Er…. I’m not in Scotland and I said it was stupid. Never been to Marbella either. Nice bit of anti-English stereotyping though. 🙄

PS Would that be Manchester on a Friday night when it’s full of Rangers fans? 😉

Given that at least two of the “antis” are English (one may have forgotten that fact 🙂 ), I don’t think you could accuse trail_rat of racial stereotyping.

Who are rangers ? You mean the newco surely ?

I can see the issue, I’ve never been to Marbella, I’ve been out in Manchester on a Friday night and I’m a Sagittarian.

Is this helping?

Possibly more useful than the previous post 🙂

lipseal – Member
How do you manage to get a 28 min video on utube?

If it’s awesome enough smaller ones make way.

The CMD Arete has a lot of appeal.