Bloody americans, coming over here and shooting our goats

I have seen an abattoir and farm kills.

I’m going to invite all the hicks to the farm for a bit of a cull.

Bring yer hick mentality and some combats, swizzle yer baseball caps and kill em’ all.

Take some pics, post online whilst standing over your prey like a trophy.

Same shit, different colour innit.

🤦‍♀️🤷‍♂️🌬

Jesus, just had the misfortune to watch a CO2 pig slaughter video (Australian, so probably upper end of practices). I’d take a bullet any day of the week, and yes, I’ve seen what bullets can do.

I N R A T S and hopefully already said:

Hunting the goat is legal and it’s a speices that needs controlled. This one appears to have had a good ife and death.

Are a those objecting to it carnivourous pet-lovers or vegans? Inverted snobs?

If the former, have they looked into animal suffering in UK agri-business?

Nobody eats “baby” lambs – there’s no real meat on them.  Most of the “lamb” you eat looks to normal people like a sheep and is probably much nearer a year old.

I realise it varies and the definitions are probably a bit flexible, but that’s not my understanding.

Encyclopaedia Britannica says:

Lamb: live sheep before the age of one year, and the flesh of such animals. … The meat of sheep 6 to 10 weeks old is usually sold as baby lamb, and spring lamb is from sheep of five to six months.

However, even if the lamb were closer to a year, that is still a very young animal and it is explicitly named and advertised as such.

So I think my point about moral relativism and double standards still stands: people complain about (what appears to be) a fully grown goat being shot and then go home to tuck into baby animals.

wild sheep and goats are a lot cleverer….

I’ve no idea if these Scottish sheep are the same

Of course they are, they’re Scottish.  Kind of disappointed they couldn’t outwit some camo-clad American gun freak though

Wow, what a hero… 🙄

There’s no contest between an animal and a moron with a rifle….
I have no issue with hunting for food or culling purposes, but as a sport? Get real.

If you want a thrill do something that is a challenge instead. If you want to shoot, go to a range or fire up your Xbox.

Leave the culling to the professional estate management.

What I WOULD pay to see would be like-minded hunters pitted against each other on a reserve. That could classify as sport worth watching. You could have bare hands, knife only and rifle categories. Winner!

It is not a wild sheep, it has obviously been sheared within the last few months.

Maybe it just went to the baaaarbers.

FFS, they are introduced pests. If some dumb foreigners want to pay to cull them, it’s win-win.

I stand corrected over the CO2 issue, IIRC I was remembering words promoting it rather than an honest description of the process.

There was a TV programme a few years back looking at more humane ways to kill people as an alternative to the electric chair and lethal injection for capital punishment and CO2 and other gases were looked at. CO2 was the preferred as it causes ZERO distress. One experiment used a pig who could put its head into various sealed troughs to access food and each trough had different gases. It would eat at one until it either felt uncomfortable and withdrew or blacked out and often would not return to that trough. However there was one it repeatedly returned and it was the one filled with CO2. It would eat in the trough till it blacked out, was pulled out of the trough and left to recover, and as soon as it recovered it would immediately return to the CO2 trough to continue feeding until it blacked out. So the experience was obviously not an unpleasant one for the Pig, just the opposite in fact as it exhibited symptoms of euphoria, so it sounds like asphyxiation by CO2 is not an unpleasant way to go.

There was a TV programme…

…, so it sounds like asphyxiation by CO2 is not an unpleasant way to go.

I’m no expert by any means but are you sure this was co2 not carbon monoxide, one of the major dangers of which i gather i the lack of symptoms.

Just read this quote from the lady in question

“Nothing better than disconnecting from this social media-driven world and connecting back with nature.

Fair play, only you have a gun and technical clothing. Want to prove you’re a true huntress? Fashion your own weapons and clothing from nature’s bounty. Then go hunt some goat!

A similar problem, but a stoatally different answer..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-45975295

I’m no expert by any means but are you sure this was co2 not carbon monoxide

Or Nitrogen.

wobbliscott.  Your recollection is almost 100% correct, apart from one tiny detail

http://www.documentarytube.com/videos/how-to-kill-a-human-being-2

37 mins…… it rejects CO2. but is happy with inerts (N2, Ar, etc.)

What we need is some trophy hunters who go after the real introduced pests who have no natural predators. Seven billion and counting…

Fashion your own weapons and clothing from nature’s bounty. Then go hunt some goat!

Pretty sure that’s illegal here.

A true hunter cares not for your foolish laws!

What we need is some trophy hunters who go after the real introduced pests

Grey squirrels?

Rabbits.

A true selfie,look at me-me-me huntress does not care for your foolish flaws #camoupstayawesome

What we need is some trophy hunters who go after the real introduced pests

Hipsters

Or jockeys. Their numbers have exploded since Prince died.

There is nothing odd about killing an animal and then eating it.

Travelling thousands of miles to kill a harmless and defenceless animal and revelling in the beast’s death is beyond odd however.

Travelling thousands of miles to kill a harmless and defenceless animal and revelling in the beast’s death is beyond odd however.

As opposed to rearranging that sentence into

killing a harmless and defenceless animal and transporting it thousands of miles to <span style=”font-size: 12.8px;”>revel</span> in the beast’s death is beyond odd however. 

To describe my comment that I really like roast Lamb for christmas dinner and the 50/50 chance it’s from New Zealand?

This thread’s reached the opposite of the vegan argument that you shouldn’t’ eat an animal you weren’t prepared to kill, that we should only eat animals and not consider that they had to die in the process.

To describe my comment that I really like roast Lamb for christmas dinner and the 50/50 chance it’s from New Zealand?

Buy British then. It’s only a few hundred mile for Shaun to travel.

It tells you where it’s from on the packet.

Travelling thousands of miles to kill a harmless and defenceless animal and revelling in the beast’s death is beyond odd however.

For the thrill and and challenge like a Predator does innit.

From the BBC article,

“The animals, which have no natural predator, are classed as an invasive, non-native species in the UK, and hunting them on private land is not illegal.

Controversial culls have been carried out in some areas to reduce their numbers,”

Whilst I find the notion of travelling several thousand miles to shoot a sheep somewhat bizarre, I’m struggling to see the moral outrage here.  It’s as though people have suddenly forgotten where food comes from.  (Vegetarian for pushing 30 years, for context.)

“The Larysa Unleashed website says the presenter “promotes the outdoor lifestyle, offering a taste of the adventure as she blossoms into a hardcore huntress.”

Hardcore huntress?  Dropped into the middle of a pack of hungry lionesses armed with a stick of celery whilst on fire would be a hardcore huntress.  Bagging a sheep from 200 yards away, not so much.

Hardcore huntress?  Dropped into the middle of a pack of hungry lionesses armed with a stick of celery whilst on fire would be a hardcore huntress.  Bagging a sheep from 200 yards away, not so much.

Exactly. Don’t forget she was also well camouflaged in order to hide from the highly cunning and devious sheep

Don’t forget she was also well camouflaged in order to hide from the highly cunning and devious sheep

Surely disguising yourself as flora when stalking a herbivorous animal is more dangerous, no? It’s like dressing up as a weak and injured antelope to go hunting lions.

Never thought of that. Maybe she is the ultimate huntress after all 😀

Bagging a sheep from 200 yards away, not so much.

Exactly it’s like decideding to take up rabbit shooting then heading to Pet at Home bag your big trophy kill.

The latest photo doing the rounds is her proudly displaying a shot peacock.

Probably more humanely despatched than the majority of peacocks we eat. The proles roasting them of a Sunday know little of their miserable existence plodding slowly around the grounds of stately homes.

And the feral ones are very hard to track and kill. It’s not like they have a massive, brightly coloured load of feathers and you can just stroll up to them with a bit of bird seed.

The more I think about the moral indignance around this, the more it irks me.

Unless you’re a vegan

If I had a peacock, I’d name it Drew

The more I think about the moral indignance around this, the more it irks me.

Unless you’re a vegan

Me too. I still think its a strange thing to travel all that way to kill a sheep and goat but the moral outrage from many meat eaters is laughable.

If I had a lazy, unemployed goat I’d name it Billy Idol