best steel hardtail frame for £300 – £400 . . . . .

Thinking my orange Crush isnt ‘niche’ enough to be around these parts 😆

Salsa El Mariachi.

Orange p7! By far the best, theres a nice one on ebay now wi brand new forks on and neon orange bits, looks the nuts! Maybe he might want more than £400 for it tho! 🙂

Are Orange niche enough? Im not so sure!

Forogt to mention if I get a frame I will ‘rob’ all the Crushes bits of of it. Meaning it must take 140mm forks and 26” wheels

niche enough for what? riding? 😮

Cotic Soul if you can stretch your budget a little, Bfe if you can’t.

dialled alpine

If you’re worried about nicheness then an Orange is the last bike you’d want to get surely?

second the vote for a Soul having just built one up.

Not sure if it counts a “niche” but I have an 08 Rocky Mountain Blizzard frame that i’m thinking of changing if you’re interested?

Edit: Just read about your forks… it’ll do 120mm before it gets daft.

Dialled PA.

Are Cotic really niche anymore? Im not sure. What rules must a brand adhere to reach acheive the niche tag from the singletrack forum heirachy?

someone was selling a spotbrand on the classifieds other day

I got a 2010 p7 frame for cheap last year. never looked back. don’t let those weight weenies convince you not to buy it ‘cos it weighs loads’ as it makes not one iota difference to how it rides – it rides beautifully. though I would say that as I own one but it does!

Singular Swift

Ragley piglet?

Salsa a la carte (bit above budget?)

Charge duster skinny? Looks very nice 349 from memory

Genesis altitude with Reynolds 853 tubing is worth looking at, lovely orange colour too, £399.99

ns bikes (probably a surge, but I think they do a more xc-oriented frame as well). Pretty niche on the trails

I realy like the genesis alpitude, 853 reynolds dreamyness mmmmmmm

The genesis is very nice indeed. Had one for a couple of months now.

I just swapped components off my orange crush for this Cotic BFe – not sure how “niche” – but I like it

that didn’t work. well you can email me if you want to see photo. somehow I can’t get flickr to link an image (definitely user error there!)

My mates got a Bfe, nice bike

sent u mail armchair biker 😀

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Got a brand new boxed 18.5″ 2008 Rocky Mountain Blizzard (Reynolds 853) available for £425. Mail me for pics if interested robin.stones@tesco.net

rm blizzards should be black and white 🙂

“The ultimate high quality steel hardcore hardtail if you like your trails radical and your riding vertical”

Another vote for the Genesis Latitude, 853, has the new XX44 head tube so it will take a tapered steerer and also 2 x 10 or 3 x 10 compatible which some other steel frames won’t.