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Unfortunate naming in this context
Kicking off in Hull now. A "peaceful protest" outside city hall has relocated to the bus/ rail station next to a hotel where asylum seekers are housed. Bus service suspended and rail ticket office closed. It's Sesh festival today and Stretch the younger is working on one of the bars, I'm quite worried this is going to turn nasty.
Yup, block and report.
Anyone else’s YouTube feed getting bombarded with Indian based channels such as crux live streaming the riots?, there is no way to remove or block them either.
Had a couple come up, to block them click on the 3 dots on the thumbnail and then on 'don't recommend channel'. I worked that out after being bombarded with American political vids after watch a clip of Trump a few years ago
Apparently kicking off properly in Liverpool now according to my lass who works in the city centre.
Just watching these live feeds on YouTube. Nice of them to gather all this evidence for the authorities
In Hull they appear to be attacking a car garage "owned by foreigners" and smashing up all the cars that are there being repaired.
Now they're building a barricade on the road using old car tyres which I assume they'll set on fire shortly
https://www.youtube.com/live/z1VKZhadxwI?si=j0H1141B_7X_vY_G
Apparently Boots set on fire in Lpool City Centre.
Boots the Chemist? The 175 year old British high street staple? Top work, fascist morons, that'll show the immigrants.
Elsewhere:
https://twitter.com/suevictorian/status/1819719841692942645
Boots the Chemist? The 175 year old British high street staple? Top work, fascist morons, that’ll show the immigrants.
Easy mistake to make "boots"/"boats".
Just watching these live feeds on YouTube. Nice of them to gather all this evidence for the authorities
Don’t watch them, report as spam as the feeds are all from the right wing and Israeli spam factories attempting to incite fear/rioting - this all planned to incite violence against the Muslim community
Those Youtube feeds.. Just some ****s feeding of anti-Islam or simple racism interests. Getting live donations from Trumpers and the like. I'm sure 'portland andy' really cares about the unrest in the UK and it's nothing to do with boosting RW unrest.
Don't feed the grifters.
Hopefully not a proper fire at Boots, unless it takes hold in the perfume and tanning products section. Thankfully my daughter took my advice to shut her shop and leg it out of the back while they were fighting the police down the docks. Apparently they did try to break her shop window on the way through though, so she was stuck in there with customers.
Leeds library 1pm. About 15o fascists and 300+ on our side (Stand up to Racism counter) of a stand off with the police in between. Chanting, shouting, goading, handbags. After about an hour they moved off, to march round the centre. They returned at 2.30, probably a few more, and the atmosphere was a bit more serious, but they decided to go for the police as far as we could see. We left at about 3, I think the serious fascists were penned.
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They're an ugly bunch, but not that many intoxicated randoms....there are some savvy agitators leading them. Lots of them seemed obsessed with filming us, I guess as much to intimidate than anything else.
Well I don't think that the far-right protest ever materialised in Central London today. To be fair London is not friendly territory for the far-right.
There was the usual small group of 50-100 zionists along the route of the Palestine Solidarity demo though. I have never understood why the police believe that it is appropriate for the zionists to specifically stage a demonstration along the route of a pro Palestine one.
London is a huge place they could easily stage their demos in support of Netanyahu far away from the pro Palestine demos. Obviously it is designed to antagonise supporters of Palestine and nothing else, so why do the police think it is appropriate to allow them to do that?
On the plus side it must be hugely demoralising for the 50-100 zionists to stand there whilst literally tens of thousands of Palestine supporters endlessly walk past them. I think the organisers are claiming 100,000 today but I suspect that 80,000 might be more realistic.
Apparently Boots set on fire in Lpool City Centre.
****ing hell, you couldn't make it up!
Did they take their cues from Four Lions?
I’m guessing the landlord gave them a lift into Manchester in his union jack stickered Insignia.
You know what to do.
https://www.redbubble.com/i/sticker/HOPE-not-hate-by-ladieswhoscrum/21461705.EJUG5
credit to you ernie, you're an argumentative bugger and we don't exactly see eye to eye on some stuff, but you're out there doing it and for that I admire you.
I’m quite worried this is going to turn nasty.
They're torching stuff in Hull city centre apparently. A friend lives about a mile outside the centre, in a less than pleasant area.
My local flat roof pub’s beer garden is suspiciously empty of its usual boarish drunk gobshites.
She reports similar about her local that to date, she's never been in.
Aww shucks thanks Jon 🙂
@mert I live a mile from Hull City centre to the west in an area with a fair few challenges but the city has a strong history with Wilberforce and quite a strong activist/arts scene. There was a positive counter demo today thankfully. I bet the families in Southport are going through two lots of trauma now after seeing this horrendous hijacking of the incident and subsequent rioting.
What bunch of ****….
I can't figure out why the copper appears to be restraining the black kid with a knee on his back or something (1.13 sec). Are they arresting him?
Edit : Although 47 sec in the black kid appears to be chasing a white guy
I've seen it on twitter, by the time the police arrive it looks like he's gone on the attack against one kid while the tough guy melts that were previously kicking him are now shouting and filming. Another one where you need the full version to understand why he seems to be the aggressor, and the police are responding to what they actually see.
How terrified must that kid have been.
https://twitter.com/stuzi_pants/status/1819756473271894226
The optics of that vid are fairly terrible with him being piled upon by a near lynch mob, escaping and then ending up with a copper on his back. BUT, he threw a flare into the Far Right 'Enough Is Enough' crowd just before this clip starts so think that's why he ends up with police interest.
**** me, that makes me so sad. I really wish I hadn't seen that. What a bunch of ****s. They all need locking up just for being there, bunch of racist thugs.
I grew up in a very diverse area and had loads of black and Asian mates, but that video makes me feel a bit ashamed to be white, I'm also bald, I really hope people don't just see me and assume...
- hope junior and others get home safely
- Thanks, she's gone in her car, should be ok if she can get onto A63. There's going to be a awful lot of people to get home with no transport in an hour. Taxis now not picking up in the city centre.
BUT, he threw a flare into the Far Right ‘Enough Is Enough’ crowd just before this clip starts so think that’s why he ends up with police interest.
any proof?
can’t view that unless you have the app/account but I get the gist of it from the headline
Sign up.... It's worth it.
The optics of that vid are fairly terrible with him being piled upon by a near lynch mob, escaping and then ending up with a copper on his back. BUT, he threw a flare into the Far Right ‘Enough Is Enough’ crowd just before this clip starts so think that’s why he ends up with police interest.
I would happily lob a molotov rather than a flare.
Actually, rotten fruit and eggs are the traditional missiles
Was just about to post that ^, it’s got echoes of Royston Vasey
Said it before, it's like wetherspoons has shut down and the regulars are looking for something to do, looking at the state of them in that video, i doubt there's a job between them, and they're moaning about immigrants running this country down!
Good to see the police getting in quick on the Manchester video, after all the airport stuff, they're going in and getting hurt doing their job, hope some respect is given instead of trying to bring them down.
So , to condense this down to a simple action / reaction statement.
A young man stabbed and killed some even younger children, for unknown reasons. . Because he wasn't a WASP all the lazy , self entitled , thick , aggressive, chip on their shoulders morons now think it's acceptable to show their true, full on racist traits by civil disturbance, , violence and aggressive behaviour towards the police or anyone who isn't white.
Because their own life choices have not given them the life that they think they deserve, it must be someone else's fault right? And that nice man on the telly says it's all the hundreds of foreigners landing on our beaches and getting free TVs and hotels fault that they don't have a nice car , and a nice house in a nice area . So let's hurt people , destroy and burn property , steal things and generally be a knob as that will make it better?
@singletrackmind - more or less, yeah. But that nice man has been on the BBC so many times that he must be telling the truth, right? Meanwhile that clever chap Mr Musk is helping out with making information freely available.
The day before the horrific events in Southport one of my neighbours had friends around. Super loud conversation you couldn’t avoid overhearing (I was outside fixing bikes). The short version is that one of the guests was adamant that a civil war was coming to the UK, and would be caused by Muslims, but that “we” shouldn’t wait and should “fight back” now. All that followed was actually very USA focussed (gun laws etc). There’s a lot of international and internet carried incitement and affirmation of these views and actions.
the guests was adamant that a civil war was coming to the UK
To be fair Enoch Powell promised them that a race war was about to kick off over 50 years ago.
The absolute, sheer, cretinous state of it.
To be fair it wouldn't look so bad if they could access an NHS dentist, and we all know who is responsible for that.
Luckily I have no problem accessing an NHS dentist, who happens to be a lovely lady from Baghdad.
Sat in hospital at mo, gastroscopy. Five NHS folks looking after me. All fantastic, all the people the idiots are rioting against.
Working hard on a Sunday morning. Wonder what the rioters are doing this morning?
^That’s the Master Race??
Wonder what the rioters are doing this morning?
Thanks to the wonders of camera phones and social media, shitting themselves every time a car stops outside their house or their doorbell rings.
eg:
https://twitter.com/AnonymousUK2022/status/1819826458724065786
Where the **** is that nicotine stained frog looking Copper Nano Tube this morning?
These are your people this is your fault. Surely you should be basking in the glory not hiding like a coward in a pond.
Fast forward to today, folk in local social media are going “they’ve cut benefits for pensioners, why can’t I have a free five star hotel like all the illegal immigrants get?” Seriously, I literally read this earlier today, people believe this shit. I think by this point they want to believe it.
You’ve seen it before in Brexit, people just want to believe fairy tales,the actual facts are irrelevant.
Simple single answers to everything.
A five star hotel minus its staff , is just a small room but the that’s not how it’s presented.
The best quote I’ve seen for a long time is.
Social media is an outrage machine. It is designed for emotional contagion and its aim is to keep our eyes trained on the feed.
He's come out and condemned it absolutely.
Oh no wait, that was the 2011 riots. Still I assume he'll say the same this time.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/100525250852302848
Social media is an outrage machine. It is designed for emotional contagion and its aim is to keep our eyes trained on the feed.
It's mad when you remember a geeky Harvard IT guy started a website to rate women in his class because his girlfriend dumped him and now we've got riots on our street thanks to that
Said it before, it’s like wetherspoons has shut down and the regulars are looking for something to do, looking at the state of them in that video
Why is it every single one of these far right ** caught on video looks exactly like the stereotype of a far right * I have in my head.
Because social media is feeding your outrage as much as it is theirs. It's the new automated propaganda machine, but far more effective than an A1 poster because the algorithm is getting realtime feedback to help you find what your want to be most outraged about. And the only war it cares about is the one to post as many interstitial adverts between clicks as possible.
Meanwhile on farrighttrackworld the feed is full of counter protestors who all have pink hair, dreadlocks and smoking a joint.
Social media is an outrage machine. It is designed for emotional contagion and its aim is to keep our eyes trained on the feed.
There’s also the decision by Elon Musk, under the guise of ‘defending freedom of speech’ (yeah, right), to reinstate the Twitter accounts of Tommy Robinson and his band of thugs and give them a platform
I also notice that the likes of Braverman and Jenrick who referred to the Palestine protests as ‘hate marches’ and tacitly aligned themselves with Farage and Co have been awfully quiet since it’s all properly kicked off
Somebody put it well about those two and other senior Tories… they’ve rowed out too far to the right and now they realise they can’t get back to the shore
People's lives are shit and getting shitter, but instead of looking for the reasons why they can't do the things they want, see a doctor or dentist, or afford to buy stuff, they have been offered a scapegoat and gratefully accepted it.
It's a tale as old as time.
What shocks me is how social media and the terrible state of political discourse has emboldened people to think that populist, far-right, racist tropes are just an acceptable conversation point everywhere, like the weather or the football. We are seeing the sharp end of normalised bigotry, and it feels like we're starting from a 1970s square one to deal with it.
These are your people this is your fault. Surely you should be basking in the glory not hiding like a coward in a pond.
Some people believe that he shouldn't be given the publicity which he clearly craves.
I disagree, I believe that this is a unique opportunity to nail the bigoted racist ****
If he could be held responsible in the eyes of the general public for the criminal damage and violence, including against police officers, in Britain's cities, then I reckon that it could likely be the beginning of the end of his political career.
Which is presumably why he appears to be keeping very quiet ATM.
In some positive news, fat incoherent swastika man has been arrested
The one who was complimented on his “awesome” and “pure British” tattoos, despite the fact that the most prominent one was Hindu, that one?
Easy mistake to make “boots”/”boats”
Same spelling in German. Makes you think.
Which is presumably why he appears to be keeping very quiet ATM.
Farage is waiting for the recriminations to reach a level where he can say 'the elites' are 'picking on him', at which point he will grift more money off his supporters.
I went in to Hull centre to help clean up this morning. Council had done a great job already and a group of us waited to clear up the leftovers (literally, from Greggs). Still alot of agitators around which was unsettling but great to meet many others wanting to counter the hate with brooms and bin bags.
I heard a funny coment the other day...
Getting face tatoos is a good way to ensure you'll never have a job that pays more than basic.
It’s mad when you remember a geeky Harvard IT guy started a website to rate women in his class
Get it right. A geeky Harvard IT guy got his mates to start a website and then took all the credit.
If he could be held responsible in the eyes of the general public for the criminal damage and violence, including against police officers, in Britain’s cities, then I reckon that it could likely be the beginning of the end of his political career.
Sadly, I fear that the operative word here is "if."
One of our local union reps had face tatoos, he was quite successful in his career and being a union rep couldn't be further from the right wing.
The great irony is that now so many of these 'True Brit' nationalist groups a actively funded from overseas.
Used to be Russia pre-2022 but deep-pocketed Right Wing Christian Nationalist groups in the States are now Ol' Yaxley Lennon's main sugar daddies.
We also can't ignore the role of Tiktok (and by extension the Chinese government) actively promoting the most inflammatory content to drive division, this was a major factor in the Gaza protests and I'm sure they're at it again now.
Getting face tatoos is a good way to ensure you’ll never have a job that pays more than basic.
Depends on the industry and if they can afford to discriminate. Whilst it's not common it's not unknown for people with facial tattoos to make good money. I suppose the difference is whether they're properly done or just inked on your mates couch after a crate of lager and a few lines.
Almost like the aesthetic is down to the what rather than the how.
One of our local union reps had face tatoos, he was quite successful in his career
I have a friend with a facial tattoo. It's a pretty little spiral next to her eye rather than a swastika. I believe it's her only tat, though I don't know her well enough to confirm with certainty.
^That’s the Master Race??
I just laughed loudly in a quiet cafe.
All the politicians and talking heads who were so quick to call out the Palestinian "hate" marches need to be quickly called out and condemned for not condemning these protests.
What shocks me is how social media and the terrible state of political discourse has emboldened people to think that populist, far-right, racist tropes are just an acceptable conversation point everywhere
This. I hear it more and more from people I really wouldn't expect to hear it from. I had to call out a mate on Monday after the Southport horror after he casually said 'there's too many coming in, something needs to be done'. I know for a fact he's not racist, but he'd swallowed whatever he'd read on facebook or twitter and felt confident enough to repeat it in public. He even tried to defend himself when I told him he was talking bollocks.
I don't really know what the solution is, but this is the inevitable result of anti-immigrant political messaging from Farage and rightwing tories, and in no small part the failure of left of centre and centrist politicians to make the case for immigration and explain how we benefit from it. If we fail to make the argument for something (like Darren above) then the vacuum is filled by extremists from on the other side and that's what the majority hears the most until it becomes normalised.
there’s too many coming in, something needs to be done
2016 has normalised all this, and the genie isn’t going back in the bottle anytime soon.
Farage is waiting for the recriminations to reach a level where he can say ‘the elites’ are ‘picking on him’, at which point he will grift more money off his supporters.
He is already on something new I believe, some sort of anti WHO thing.
2016 has normalised all this
Yeah. Racism and hatred of immigrants didn't exist before then did it?
I didn’t say it created this sentiment, I said it normalised it. Hearing “your mate” repeat such phrases, rather than someone you consider a “wrong ‘un” is now something many of us have had to get used to. If anything, 2016 was a big step backwards. Perhaps “re-normalised” would be a better way of putting it.
Farage is waiting for the recriminations to reach a level where he can say ‘the elites’ are ‘picking on him’, at which point he will grift more money off his supporters.
Who cares if his supporters want to give him money?
There is no way that the riots are going to be popular with the voting public, his responsibility for feeding the rhetoric which has led to them should be highlighted.
This an opportunity to hammer Farage