Athletics doping: Wada recommends Russia suspension

If he did not know then he is incompetent if he did know then he id complicit

I’m not defending Coe at all but we have to consider that he could only deal with it once he was at the top – and to make any move beforehand would’ve blown his cover. Let’s not forget he’s up against the Kremlin here – they have previous for putting enemies out of action…

did you hear any of his interviews before the report came out?

Hardly sounded like man waiting for his opportunity to use the smoking gun he knew was coming as he had just been waiting for his opportunity

Thank god our new friends, the Chinese, are squeaky clean on this

http://images.smh.com.au/2012/07/27/3496651/VD-Swimmer-1994-620×349.jpg

did you hear any of his interviews before the report came out?

Hardly sounded like man waiting for his opportunity to use the smoking gun he knew was coming as he had just been waiting for his opportunity

Don’t be daft, this is STW 🙂

But seriously, given who he’s up against he could well have needed to play the undercover cop role – these kind of ‘Armstrong/McQuaid tactics’ would be the role he’d have to play to ensure he didn’t raise suspicion that he’d be a troublemaker…

I’m not defending Coe at all but we have to consider that he could only deal with it once he was at the top – and to make any move beforehand would’ve blown his cover.

It would have been an impressively “deep cover” over his many years in dirty dirty FIFA, the dirty dirty world of Olympics bids and (we know know) dirty dirty IAAF

Sport, politics. Politics, sport. And ne’er the twain do meet.

According to some. Who are generally in the IOC, IAAF, FIFA etc etc.

Even so, perhaps now isn’t such a good time to start singling out Russia as the Lance of athletics. There are clearly other nations involved in their own sweet way. It’s just that Russia aren’t exactly Mr Popular right now in certain parts of the world, who also happen to be kicking up a lot of hoo-ha about doping.

Sat opposite a certain “player” on the train this morning – looked (for the first time) like a man with the troubles of the world on his shoulders. I doubt there are any answers and the chalice must feel pretty poisoned right now.

The possibility I’m suggesting is that Coe has played a similar game – essentially don’t warn your enemy you’re coming, keep your cards close to your chest, sneak up quietly and trip then up when they least expect it…

Some pertinent facts about Seb Coe…

-He’s been a part of the IAAF since 2003, a VP since 2007.
-He lavished praise on Diack, a man who has shown to have run perhaps the most corrupt regime in Sports, which is saying something.
-He was the head of the FIFA ethics division (surely an oxymoron?) while vast corruption was going on and reported nothing.
-He has refused to give up his Nike consulting agreement and somehow has convinced himself it’s not a Conflict of Interest, despite anyone with a half a brain telling him that is not the case.
-When faced with the reality of these allegations, he initially blamed the journalist, trying to take a holier than thou approach of defending his sport, when the reality is that the regime he was a part of may have single handily killed his sport…for good.

I’d say his days are numbered TBH, either he’s playing the long game so well, even he hasn’t realised what his end game is, he’s the unluckiest man in the world that doesn’t choose friends well, or…He’s a vile corrupt Apparatchik, and should be that last person in charge of any investigation into ethics

the reality is that the regime he was a part of may have single handily killed his sport…for good.

That’s pretty melodramatic.

the reality is that the regime he was a part of may have single handily killed his sport…for good.

Is a little melodramatic. Be interesting to see how bad it gets and what the fallout is though. I doubt you’ll ever get the same abandonment of the sport from the bigger sponsors in the way that cycling had.

yeah, probably, 🙂 but consider that we have the former President of the IAAF covering up doping, taking bribes, impacting World Championship and Olympic placing. The head of the IAAF anti-doping covering up the very thing he is assigned to do, doping. the problem with athletics is that the athletes who grew up doping or accepting doping in sport then went on to become the governing figures in sport. If we have those in charge who were okay with it during the heydays of the 70’s and 80’s what makes you think they are going to change it when they have power? There’s a reason the laughable records of the Chinese, East German, and so forth are still on the books.

“sport” needs to decide in who’s interests it’s being organised. for Nike and Adiddas, or the athletes.

Coe can still prove all the doubters wrong, he’s got an awful lot of work to do, considering his past attitude tho

he’s got an awful lot of work to do

that in reality needs to start with an apology, and a mea culpa about how in the last 7 years he should have done something.

That’s pretty melodramatic.

No, it’s true,people don’t even run for the bus any more.

I can’t see how Coe can continue at Nike and IAAF, it stinks. How can he be independent on say Salazar or any other Nike sponsored athlete / coach when they are both taking money from the same pot?

Nike already have too big a say in athletics look at the Nick Symmonds fiasco.

Russia suspended 22-1 votes

Looks like some IAAF officials missed the opportunity to make a bit of pocket money with that vote.

Let’s see how long it lasts. I do suspect it will be “resolved” in a “glorious and ground-breaking new anti-doping agreement that will change the future of athletics for the better, forever” fairly quickly; certainly before the next Olympics.

I hope I’m wrong as they really need to make an example out of Russia.

Could be resolved after Seb Coe becomes poorly from drinking a dodgy cup of tea.

Kenya have suddenly decided to create an anti-doping agency.

The strong stance of the IAAF, so far ,is having a good effect elsewhere. Not sure how a country with an athletic history like Kenya doesn’t have an anti-doping agency already! With how athletics defines Kenya on the international stage, it looks like they want to start clearing things up before they do a Russia. Good stuff.

people don’t even run for the bus any more.

In the Middle East kids will take the school bus, even if they can see the school from their house. I’m talking a few hundred metres. If they are late for the bus not only will they not run for it, some won’t bother going to school that day. Seriously.

Don’t be silly. Who do you think pays the bills? It’s always worth bearing in mind that if you’re not paying, you’re probably the goods, not the customer.

Irrespective of any other arguments about Coe’s position, what he has and hasn’t done, what he was in a position to know about and to do, and whether he was playing a sneaky long game, for me his credibility went down the toilet when he attempted to shoot the messenger after becoming president. It was such a depressingly familiar position to take. What’s more, it revealed him as being not quite as clever a politician as a lot of people seem to think – did he not realise such a stance would come back to bite him, and that the people he accused of making stuff up would get an opportunity to exact their revenge?

Well a certain person was rather lucky his grilling by MPs coincided with more important business in parliament

Or his woeful showing would’ve generated a lot more headlines
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2015/dec/02/sebastian-coe-faces-grilling-from-mps-over-athletics-doping-scandal-live

Props to the German documentary maker who exposed all this,in the audience he apparently did the [cough] liar [\cough] thing loudly every time Coe was bullshitting, which was a lot !

agreed, props to the German journalist for exposing this story leading to the arrests

Also apparently Coe never campaigned for Eugene to hold the Worlds, even though it was awarded with no bidding process and happens to be Nikes home town 🙄

Oh well at least he is dropping his Nike role, even though apparently there was no conflict of interest.

Running joke
But what turns Coe’s latest protestations of ignorance into a running joke is the controversial email sent in July 2013 by senior IAAF official Nick Davies, which was leaked to the French press last month. In his email Davies, the IAAF’s deputy general-secretary, suggested suppressing embarrassing news about positive drug tests by Russian athletes until after the world championships a month later in Moscow.

One of the options suggested in Davies’s “very secret” five-point plan was to hire a London-based sports marketing company, CSM, as part of an “unofficial PR campaign” to deal with negative stories in the British media. Coe is the executive chairman of CSM Sports and Entertainment, a subsidiary of Chime, the giant PR outfit founded by Margaret Thatcher’s favourite PR man, Tim Bell.

Following his election as IAAF president last August, one of Coe’s first appointments was to name Davies as his personal aide in charge of the president’s office.

Coe’s deal with CSM is worth at least 10 times the six-figure annual contract with Nike which he was forced to give up in December to avoid further potential conflicts of interest. At an awkward press conference in the IAAF’s tax haven of Monte Carlo, Coe made the point that, although IAAF president, he would continue his work with CSM. He may now need all the help it can expensively offer!

http://www.private-eye.co.uk/issue-1410/news