[Closed] Apple WWDC 2014 - iPhone 6/ iWatch? / iWotM8?

Gotta love their marketing people, even people that hate them can't help but spread the word.

I'll be watching, see what they come up with to try and wow the S5/M8 owners in to Apple ownership.

Would be nice to see the iWatch announced tonight as well, I need a new watch and not a fan of the pebble.

Well I watch most of these inc WWDC so I don't have to wait a year. Its going to be the biggest spend I have had on a while for technology or indeed anything else (aside from divorce lawyers 😥 ).

I will be buying an 4.7 iPhone 6 as soon as they are for sale. First time I will have bought a phone outright but I am done with being locked into contracts.

I will be interesting to see the iWatch assuming it's launched. Can't see me buying one of the early models though, lets see how it develops.

I will also be replacing my iPad1 with an Air 2 but I am guessing that won't be announced today.

I would like to see a 12 MacBook Air, if so I will buy one of these too as a present for my parents.

The daughter is going to be getting a call to use her student discount !

I might wait for the iphone6 air to see what that's like but my business contract is up so I can get another phone 🙂 I already have a peeble (great for MTBing)so the iwatch will have to be better than that to tempt me.

Well whatever is going to be announced there have been people queuing up for a week outside the apple store in NY waiting to buy it, even though whatever it is probably won't be available for a few weeks yet!

Waiting for a new iPhone here as my 4 is dying a slow and painful death. Though better capabilities to monitor app resource usage in iOS [s]6[/s] 8 may give it a new lease of life.

Question is large or small screen? The larger iPhone 6 looks to have a monstrous battery which may swing it for the bigger screen.

@mrblobby do you mean iOS8 (you said 6) as this has battery usage by app ? the iPhone 4 will not support iOS8 only the 4S onwards.

Doh, yes I mean 8. Ah, well that's my 4 dead and buried then!

...even though whatever it is probably won't be available for a few weeks yet!

[s]iThough iPhones are usually available the day after the event?. Might be different this time, tho.[/s]

I'm wrong, as bit of googling shows there was a 10 delay last year as well.

Heard that it was going to be a couple of weeks before the smaller one went on sale, and another few weeks for the larger one. May be old news though.

Edit... [url= http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/08/iphone-6-september-19/ ]Macrumour[/url] reckons 19th for launch for both.

May be old news though.

Nah, I think you're right. Must be other devices that are available straight after launch. I know I could order my MBA the day after WWDC 2012.

@mrblobby spend £8 on a new battery/screwdriver kit and put it in yourself, pretty easy aside from fiddly small screws. Turn off background app update and/or location services for most things.

So Apple folk, I've an iPad and I want to watch Netflix in an easier way then hooking up my laptop with cables everywhere.

Should I buy an Apple TV device now, or is there a new one in the near future that renders the current one redundant?

I'm still holding out for a larger-than-64mb iPod Touch. I've been waiting since 2009 though, so not much a chance there then...

Should I buy an Apple TV device now, or is there a new one in the near future that renders the current one redundant?

Nah, I think you're right. Must be other devices that are available straight after launch. I know I could order my MBA the day after WWDC 2012.

I reckon you'll be able to order today but there'll be about a two week lead time on it.

@mrblobby spend £8 on a new battery/screwdriver kit and put it in yourself, pretty easy aside from fiddly small screws. Turn off background app update and/or location services for most things.

Yeah may get a new battery for it and just use it without a SIM for around the house stuff. Bit traumatised after a screen change on a friends 4S but the battery on a 4 is pretty simple I think.

I don't care about screen size that much, it still needs to be in my pocket comfortably... I'm more interested and hoping it has digital wallet capabilities, now that would be more like it. I'm sick of carrying a wallet and a phone. Give me one.

Interesting that the v2 ATV are selling for over £200 now (glad I got mine for £70 a few years ago.

I assume that's because it possible to jailbreak them, where as the 3rd gen one hasn't been cracked.

The reality is that I'm likely to buy one irrespective of what they announce today! I have a 5 which is up for renewal, have too many other Apple products to want to look elsewhere, and I'm sure whatever they do won't be a vast departure from things that have gone before!

I don't care about screen size that much, it still needs to be in my pocket comfortably... I'm more interested and hoping it has digital wallet capabilities, now that would be more like it. I'm sick of carrying a wallet and a phone. Give me one.

Yeah, hopefully it will have NFC built in.

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The reality is that I'm likely to buy one irrespective of what they announce today! I have a 5 which is up for renewal, have too many other Apple products to want to look elsewhere, and I'm sure whatever they do won't be a vast departure from things that have gone before!

this. hoping they'll do a 128GB one as I'm fed up of running out of space.

Swedish Chef, you can send to a Chromecast from Netflix on iPad. I have seen links on here to sites selling them for £18, so a bit more affordable than an ATV.

Edit: I have both. ATV rarely gets used these days. Maybe for the odd rental.

I've an iPad and I want to watch Netflix in an easier way then hooking up my laptop with cables everywhere.

[whisper] Google Chromecast mate, 20 quid innit

Just gone from Iphone 4s to HTC M8. I've had iphones for the last 3 upgrades after a poor experience with a previous HTC android phone. I would probably have gone the iphone5 or waited for the 6 but I've got a bit hacked off with the Apple thing lately, changing connections, locked into using iTunes etc.
Android has become very nice platform to use now compared to my previous experiences with it. Apple will need to pull something really special out of the bag to keep up with the competition as Android and their phones are very nice to look at as well as easy to use. Even the wife's Nokia 930 Windows phone is better to use than Apples IOS, just a shame about the apps.

[whisper] Google Chromecast mate, 20 quid innit

[SHOUTS] GOOGLE CHROMECAST!

My contract was up yesterday.

My S3 died a death ages ago, god awful phone. that was my first phone after 2 iPhones. So I bought a Nexus 5. Just reduced my contract to SIM only, 13 quid a month and i'll be sticking with this for the foreseeable future, it's a great, no nonsense phone.

Unless the new iPhone is really good 🙂

Yeah, hopefully it will have NFC built in.

What is NFC? My work BB has it, I believe, but I have no idea what it's for or why I should want it? Is it so you can pay for stuff with your phone or sommat?

[whisper] Google Chromecast mate, 20 quid innit

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Is it so you can pay for stuff with your phone or sommat?

Is one of the things it can be used for. [url= http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/what-is-nfc-and-why-is-it-in-your-phone-948410 ]NFC explained here.[/url]

Only thing I've sussed with my NFC phone is that if you put it too close to passport, the local transport app complains saying it can't access the NFC smartcard 😉

Well that and realising that since the local transport app is now NFC aware, you can buy tickets by bonking your NFC enabled bank card instead of the usual in-app purchases etc.

think it'll tak iphone to give NFC the momentum it needs, depsite NFC smartcards etc. for various services having been around for years, and several of those (eg Oyster) already the standard way to pay.

Thanks guys, will investigate the Chromecast thingy.

njee20 - Member
What is NFC? My work BB has it, I believe, but I have no idea what it's for or why I should want it? Is it so you can pay for stuff with your phone or sommat?

That NFC link probably explains it better (I haven't looked at the link), but basically it's a very short range tag (like the chip you stick in a cat or dog, so the vet knows who they are) that you can do different things with.

You can pay for stuff with it, supposedly. Although my phone's got NFC and I am not sure that there is any way of using it to pay for things. Not that i would probably want to.
You can send photo's and other items from device to device by just holding them close to each other; I think it sets up a temporary wi-fi link between the devices.
You can use NFC tags to set your phone to do things. So, I've got an NFC tag on my monitor at work that applies certain settings (silent etc) or you can set one in your car that turns the bluetooth on, opens a sat nav app etc.

It probably will take the commercial shove of the iphone to get NFC into the mainstream, I think.
I've already seen a few articles that mention the iphone6 is potentially going to have it and describing it as a 'new technology' and 'the latest thing', even though it's been on many other phones for several years.

I'm hoping they do an iWatch.

I won't be buying one, but if they do then it might prompt Android manufacturers to do the same. I'm thinking more and more that my next 'phone' will be a watch and tablet combo but they're all a bit huge currently and I have the wrists of a small girl.

I think NFC is the same technology as contactless readers, and there are some that advertise you can use your phone. However, when you can also use your debit card contactless there's really little point in using paypal etc via phone, imo.

The reality is that I'm likely to buy one irrespective of what they announce today! I have a 5 which is up for renewal, have too many other Apple products to want to look elsewhere, and I'm sure whatever they do won't be a vast departure from things that have gone before!

This Chromecast thing - will it work with any media from an iPad? Like, for example, of I had a highly not very legal App such as Cartoon HD (I don't, but if I did) will it deal with that?

Should I buy an Apple TV device now, or is there a new one in the near future that renders the current one redundant?

I would wait and see what's announced. If you care about £20 vs £80 buy the Chromecast, if you want stand alone functionality and to stay Apple with AirPlay from you iPad over all apps and not just Chrome browser buy ATV

I think NFC is the same technology as contactless readers, and there are some that advertise you can use your phone. However, when you can also use your debit card contactless there's really little point in using paypal etc via phone, imo.

Not everywhere has contactless payments on bank cards. That said, because of that, nowhere here has facility to take payments so it's still a bit pointless for me 😉

I'm hoping they do an iWatch.

I've read Jonny Ive quoted as saying that Switzerland are going to be in trouble! 😯

I'll be watching with interest because what Apple does drives a massive part of what is considered "mainstream".

But to be honest I'm not very excited about it all this time around.
Smartphone technology in general seems to have reached the "Meh" phase and moved firmly from revolution to evolution. I think it will likely stay that way until someone makes some very major advances in battery or display technology.

Though they just gave me a brand new 5 because of a dodgy battery

They changed the battery in my old one, I was holding out for a new phone 🙁

Smartphone technology in general seems to have reached the "Meh" phase and moved firmly from revolution to evolution.

Hasn't it been like that since about 2009?

After 3 years my 4s battery is shot and it constantly thinks it's plugged in to a speaker system, meaning it won't play music out loud. Therefore I'll be buying the smaller one ASAP and relegate the 4s to living on the speakers.

They changed the battery in my old one, I was holding out for a new phone

Did you have the dodgy power button as well?

Yep!

Hasn't it been like that since [s]about 2009?[/s] smartphones came out

What's genuinely been revolutionary since the first wave of smart phones?!

What's genuinely been revolutionary since the first wave of smart phones?!

I'd say (for me) the last [i]big[/i] revolution was the move to high pixel density screens, popularised by the "Retina" display on iPhone 4 (2010).

See I'd hardly say that was revolutionary. Looked prettier, but that's about it. Didn't enhance functionality in any meaningful way.

See I'd hardly say that was revolutionary. Looked prettier, but that's about it. Didn't enhance functionality in any meaningful way.

Tough crowd.

Apple - for folk who think Starbucks is a lifestyle choice ....

Apple - for folk who think Starbucks is a lifestyle choice ....

That's so profound I'm going to have it etched onto the back of my iPhone 6.

I was hoping we may have moved past these tired old Apple vs Windows/Android/Aliens debates, or even the more redundant one about Apple products only being used by hipsters. I guess not. The bottom line is, you do not become one of the biggest companies in the world by only selling your goods to ironic beard wearing latte drinkers. That's just being wilfully obtuse.

I'm excited about this one because for the first time since the 4 I'm going to buy it. Almost regardless of what they anounce, since my 4 is now physically falling to bits.

Previoulsy 4S, 5 and 5S have passed me by as I was still happy with my 4.

Whatever is in the 6 it will seem like a big step up from a 4yo phone but even more so if it's got NFC payments, health tracking, saphire glass screen, a 13mp camera and all the other rumoured goodies.

See I'd hardly say that was revolutionary.

I was thinking in terms of something that radically changed the market and consumer expectations.

When Retina came out lots of [s]Android owners[/s][i]people[/i] opined that it was stupidly overkill. Then slowly all high-end smartphones went the same way (and beyond) because it turned out that people really really liked it.

And the waves from that are still being felt in other devices, even desktop PCs which had been stuck on a crappy dot-pitch for decades.

See I'd hardly say that was revolutionary. Looked prettier, but that's about it. Didn't enhance functionality in any meaningful way.

respectfully disagree - i came from a crappy samsung flip phone to a 4 and the difference in the screen was immense. so much so i started using the phone for a lot more than calls and messaging. i'd say it was revolutionary for me, but not necessarily for those who maybe had a 3gs or so.

the fondle factor was a revolution
the clever marketing to change the way individuals acquire phones was a revolution (ie swap from network subsidy to outright purchase over 2-3 year in a clever bundle, and swapping from £10/month tariff to what was at the time the equivalent of a business tariff)
everything else is pretty much an evolution

I will be buying an 4.7 iPhone 6 as soon as they are for sale. First time I will have bought a phone outright but I am done with being locked into contracts.

I'm hoping VEAP will be a way to discount it into effectively a monthly HP scheme with 20% off.. should be the cheapest way overall.

All I want/need is a 4TB iPod. Is there one of those coming out?

@brassneck VEAP ?

Surely must be time for iTunes to handle high res audio? Obviously not the killer announcement for this session though 😛

Interesting to see what Apple can do to differentiate themselves these days. Read an interesting article a while ago about how potentially dodgy the share price was based on their innovations. If Samsung/Sony et al are all doing a similar product (for less money) then apart from that 'fondle factor' you get with Apple stuff how is it going to go down with the shareholders.

Are they getting to a point like Microsoft where its seen as cooler not to buy the mainstream/default (Apple) product.

I don't particularly like Apple products (too rigid in their way of working for my liking) but I always look forward to these announcements because Apple have been brilliant innovators and you knew that others, rightly or wrongly, would take their ideas and run with them thereafter.

Or at least they were until a couple of years back. So the question really is can they seize that back and bring out some new things that people beyond the 'Must have the latest version of every Apple product' group really clamour over.

For example, will the expected iWatch do something new or open up new possibilities or just do what the products already out there do a little slicker/looking nicer. If the later then that'll be a sign that Apple really aren't capable of being the same without [s]God[/s] sorry, Steve at the helm.

I'm gonna get a 6, the small sized one so it can fit in the back of my Rapha Jersey just fine fanx., I have a Gold 5s which I'll sell..which I bought in March this year..

I have turned AppleBouy 😆

Which is worrying MrsBOuy 😛

I don't particularly like Apple products (too rigid in their way of working for my liking) but I always look forward to these announcements

This +1. I haven't had an Apple product for about 10 years when I had a 1st gen macbook, but as a fan of gadgets and technology still enjoy WWDC. Loads of cool tech being shown off by the best presenters in the tech world and to a load of mad nerds who hang on and cheer to every word. What is not to like about that.

EDIT: Having said that I'm more excited about the gifs of the crowd when the watch is announced that I am about the watch itself.

Never bought an apple product in my life their ethos just doesn't sit right with me. However I did see an apple patent a couple of years ago that involved projectors and sharing screen space that I really liked.

When Retina came out lots of Android ownerspeople opined that it was stupidly overkill. Then slowly all high-end smartphones went the same way (and beyond) because it turned out that people really really liked it.

I dunno, I've been beating the drum of resolution > screen size since I was in short pants.

Can't wait, really keen to see this iWatch (hopefully), looking forward to the keyboard update in ios8, interested to see the iphone 6, however it'll be a year before I buy one when they can be picked up for £300, just bought a 5s using the same logic.

My 8yr old daughter looking forward to watching it with me too, she loves her ipad mini.

China Mobile appear to have leaked the specs early!

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2014/09/china-mobile-is-at-it-again-leaking-the-4-7-inch-iphone-6-specs/

A water/dust proof phone (which everyone has got) but with a super tought saphire glass screen is pretty ground breaking if you ask me.

I hope that they have something a bit more overwhelming than that. I don't see a tough screen as being particularly exciting (I find screens last a couple of years without much issue as is).

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A water/dust proof phone (which everyone has got) but with a super tought saphire glass screen is pretty ground breaking if you ask me.

nemesis, I took this to be sarcasm, I think..... ❓

Ditto 😉

Hopefully that's just a fake release though and Apple actually have got more up their sleeves - something clever with Siri maybe?

Ditto

Hopefully that's just a fake release though and Apple actually have got more up their sleeves - something clever with Siri maybe?

do real people actually use Siri?

That's kind of my point.

I use google now as it does actually tell me useful, relevent or interesting things. I don't talk to it, mind 🙂

Apple products recently have been more hardware driven than software (IMO but post iOS what have they done that no one else has?). If they can make the software do things that no one else has, that's the USP.

If they can make the software do things that no one else has, that's the USP.

I think Google is stealing the show in that respect these days.

I think Apple's remaining USP is taking [i]relatively[/i] complex stuff and decluttering/polishing/simplifying it to the point where my father-in-law can successfully use it. (e.g. think messaging, photo sharing, video calling, cloud storage etc)

Never bought an apple product in my life their ethos just doesn't sit right with me

I think Apple's remaining USP is taking relatively complex stuff and decluttering/polishing/simplifying it to the point where my father-in-law can successfully use it. (e.g. think messaging, photo sharing, video calling, cloud storage etc)

Maybe but old men in cardigans ( 😉 ) aren't sexy or going to keep Apple employees in polonecks and rimless glasses, are they? 🙂

@brassneck VEAP ?

Vodafone Employee Advantage Program - if your company use Vodafone, they usually offer 20% discount on your personal accounts, you supply an email address and employee code in store .. can usually be done on existing contracts too.

Until the pricing actually hits the website it's difficult to say if it's any cheaper than buying outright and using say GiffGaff, but for me Vodafone are the best voice/data option in general and I'd rather pay a couple of quid extra a month and be able to use it.

Maybe but old men in cardigans ( ) aren't sexy or going to keep Apple employees in polonecks and rimless glasses, are they?

Why not, the people born in the 40s / 50s are the ones with the most disposable income these days according to the radio.. all about rampant house price inflation and final salary pensions.

You might be right but it seems like a pretty big shift in focus for Apple even if it is a fairly wealthy market. It'd be a shame if they just became a company that made things easier/smoother to use rather than real innovators though.

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I'm gonna get a 6, the small sized one so it can fit in the back of my Rapha Jersey just fine fanx., I have a [b]Gold[/b] 5s which I'll sell..which I bought in March this year..

I have turned Apple[s]Bouy[/s][b]Girl[/b]

Which is worrying MrsBOuy

Not sexy, that's true nemesis, but there is plenty of money in making technology accessible and vaguely understandable to fogies and [s]arts students[/s] non-geeks. And it is something that Apple is (historically speaking) good at.

do real people actually use Siri?

I use it in the car all the time for looking up directions or sending texts.