[Closed] Anyone else hate mud so much they don't want to ride?

no I love it, you are a big wussypants! have you though about road riding instead you don't seem to be cut out to be a mountain biker 😀

Yep, came to that conclusion years ago.
I only ride off road in the winter when it freezes over, I can't stand mud.
Proper fair weather mountain biker and proud...

you;re in the wrong game ben

or possibly the wrong country

Yes I ****ing hate it. Happily I went out at 9 today when it was all frozen and sparkly - it was buff like a summers day 😀

No - I prefer dry summer days but today I went out for a bit and the sun was shining and the mud was at least semi frozen which is how I like it. I ride a rigid bike all winter and it gets a bit uncomfortable when the ground becomes really frozen solid.
commuting to work off road means I just have to ride whatever the weather and conditions are. I think it makes me appreciate the summer more though.

Time for a road bike... I think.

I love the mud. Nothing better than getting your drift on. Shave your legs and start wearing lycra, you are obviously not mtb'er material 😛

you;re in the wrong game ben

or possibly the wrong country

its pants, ive just got back from california riding. Dry, sunny and no shit to ruin the stead...

There were a few sections I abandoned today that I won't ride again til April or so - the magic of the new forest 🙄

yeh, i could ride them but we have no right of way here and I'd cut them up badly in an area where lots of other users are around - responsible nortiness, innit

(and I hate really muddy riding)

Yeah it's shit in the UK, seemed fun in Canada though 🙂 Can still have fun I guess but I never have much confidence in the wet unless I'm riding hardpack. Don't enjoy roots and that in the wet. This winter I'll be mostly sticking to roads and skateparks when I get a bmx sorted 🙂

I don't ride if it's going to be muddy for more than a bit of the ride. Not from being soft IMO. it wrecks the trails, slower and less grippy than summer riding and means I have to spend as long as I did riding, cleaning the bike.
Surrey Hills, my local riding is getting trashed because people don't stay away in the damp - bombholes, trail widening etc...

Brooess- nice justification for being a fair weather rider 😀

I hate mud and wet to be honest. I don't know if that makes me a fair weather cyclist but I do enjoy cold and windy.

BenHouldsworth - Member
Just got back from 3 hours dragging myself through the mud of West Yorkshire.

I can honestly say I don't want to off road again til its abit drier and warmer; anyone else feel the same?

no I fit mud tyres and put a little thought into route selection 😀

Lucky that in winter I can choose routes that are mainly rocky / hardpacked ground so don't get bogged down and left feeling like I'm riding through treacle.

But love having enough big muddy puddles to splash in so that I can return home all dirty with a face splattered in mud (yes, childish I know, but I enjoy it 🙂 )

Embrace the filth!!!

i hibernate come winter (wet/cold).it's part depression/asthma,part being a lightweight 😳 i have trouble staying warm at home,let alone going out in the freezing wet mud 🙂

Mud tyres, right clothes and realistic expectations. When the drier weather comes you'll feel like a riding god! 😀

I used to love it in my twenties, and saw it as a challenge. Now I'm in my early forties I really can't be arsed with it anymore! Especially the cleaning of bike and kit afterwards.

I do enjoy cold and windy.

Exactly, can't been a turn on the front of a pack in the wind and rain but despite mud tyres it's just very draggy round North Leeds at the moment and simply not enjoyable

/skip to the end

Get a road bike and embrace the Lycra, and enjoy not having to clean your bike at the end of a ride....or if you're like me, ever.

Ah yes, bike cleaning (or rather lack of ...) The reason I road ride more than mtb in the winter, even though I love splashing in the puddles.

Love it! Very satisfying coming back caked in mud after a good ride.

Got a cyclo cross race tomorrow.. strangley hoping it'll be muddy as it makes it more interesting traction wise

can't be arsed with it.

road bike ftw.

snow sucks as well

I really can't be arsed with it anymore! Especially the cleaning of bike and kit afterwards.

I've got a rigid bike with hub gears for the winter - it's much more enjoyable when you know you won't have to clean it when you get home. In fact I never clean it.

get out and love and embrace it...............cos one day you wont be able to ride at all.

TO be fair it doesn't really bother me other than the extra time you have to spend cleaning it all off.

It's only really bugged me once, when my wheels got that clogged with heathy gloopy cack that they wouldn't turn, so out came a handy stick and it got cleaned off to enjoy the rocky loose descent 😀

I enjoy the mud as long as I have the right tyres on.

The only time I get fed up is a few local routes that have clay mud that stops both wheels turning and you end up carrying for a few 100m.

Hate the look of them but have invested in a rear mudguard this year to keep the worst of it off my backside/front mech/shock/chainrings etc. Not fitted it yet though.

In 20 miles today i had everything, snow, ice, freezing sticky mud and thick fog - loved it!
It's been a couple of weeks since i was out and i wasn't looking forward to it TBH but my mate rang and we made plans..

Sliding down one of my fave little descents on fresh snow and with little visibility made it seem SO different 🙂

+1 to what Ton says as well.

Love Mud 🙂 Usually aim for it...

Only time I don't like it is when it gets to the point that you have an extra 3 inches stuck to the soles of your feet, your bike has doubled in weight and the wheels are locked, and when you can't carry it any further you try pushing it backwards and you bend the rear hanger cos the chain won't run through the mech. But unless all my extremities are numb from the cold, I still wouldn't say I 'hate' it 🙂

For some strange reason seem to prefer riding the full suss in the winter gloop, if I ride the hardtail its usually on a nice dry summers day. The full susser just feels more capable. So I too have just invested in a secondhand Alfine'd tubeless wheelset. Not to be fitted until mid-january though as I have committed to a silly singlespeed group trip to Wales...I'm not a singlespeeder...

I hate it to the point I stick to road riding when its wet

Snow and ice today, with some patches of mud thrown in for good measure. You'd hate it. 😉

I love riding in the mud!!!!! 😀 Nothing better than having both wheels drifting through the mud sideways at the same rate so its controllable. I prefer a good muddy downhill to a dry one a lot of the time.. it makes it much more exciting.
Cleaning everything off can be a bit of a pain but that's it.

Especially the cleaning of bike and kit afterwards.

I always stick the clothes in the wash postride so no extra there and I ride SS in winter so it's essentially hang on the hook until the next ride 😀

swampi - Member
I hate it to the point I stick to road riding when its wet

there are enough threads on road cycling forums of road riders getting dumped on their arses by black ice to encourage me to keep to the MTB for morning rides when there is frost about. Road riders do the opposite to Mtbers and switch to off-road during the winter when it gets cold and icy

Erm.....honestly, NO!!!

Repeat this mantra slowly after me..." MUD IS GUD"....hope that helps

Luv Stinkerbell 😀

you need another bike, a mud bike, i built up a SS CX for just that, the perfect bike for North London / Herts / Epping clay through the winter. All my riding was from the doorstep, i wouldn't bother driving to get that covered in carp.

you have to have a bit of mud for the complete MTB ride

Mud is to MTBing as Powder is to skiing.... well almost.

3 hours dragging myself through the mud

1. fit some decent soft condition tyres
2. fit crud guards
3. descend steeper trails: you don't get bogged down
4. re-ascend on roads and hard-packed gravel tracks
5. completely avoid flat, dirt trails because they become bogs

It can be a labour of love though. If there is one thing that trail centres are good for, it's relief from winter mud.

Hate it, although mainly because I don't like getting so cold while cleaning all the crap off the bike after.

If i go out in a group (once every 6 years) and folk start burning through puddles and mud i will keep up and join in. Not really into the mess of the bike and clothes these days.

I remember going out on sunday group rides when i was about 24years old wearing a thermal long sleeve top with a base layer through the whole winter and never feeling really cold. Even when i left the house i didnt feel like i had to warm up quickly. I only had summer socks and shoes on with lycra shorts too. These days,15 years on, i over dress as i would rather not get caught out and start shivering half way through a ride if theres a few stops. I wear a merino base layer,maybe a fleece or a windstopper and an event jacket over the top with a buff on the head (sometimes one around the neck if it drops to around 3c)showerproof or waterproof altura longs with trail shoes or winter spds.

Anyone else feel the cold as bad as i do? Maybe i`m just not riding hard enough!

just not riding hard enough!

Enjoy it to a point, though definitely prefer it when the temperatures drop and it becomes solid again. Just very wary about changing grip levels from one corner to the next. Had too many sketchy moments today to get any real speed up - that said, my rear NN is like a semi-slick 🙁

my rear NN is like a semi-slick

I'm of the opinion that winter riding is when tyre type/condition actually makes a difference.

Rediscovered Whitewater Kayaking last winter. Paddle when it rains, ride when it doesn't.

Hate the mud.Mostly road all winter for me. Love the snow though, will get the SS out when it comes!

Its amazing how deceiving it can be too.
Hers's a few pics from my ride today.
Even very mild climbs had me using rude words that I normally reserve for much greater challenges.

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Looks great right? Then you look down!!

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Now tomorrow is buggerred dealing with the aftermath of this.

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Hate it. Hate it, hate it, hate it.

The inside of the swingarm on my otherwise pristine bike has been scrubbed down to bare metal after just one ride on clay like mud last year and the stuff seems to find it's way into everything. Spending ages de-clagging a bike as the sun sets and the air turns chillier is a pain.

Some people say that biking in winter makes you a better rider, to some extent I'd agree but then I bought two skills compensators for very good reasons.

Roll on March.

It bothers me if it's only muddy because it's been churned up by horses or something!

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today

-4C

^^^^^ yeh well I can't wait for that!!!
No mud, or post ride faff but great fun.

+1 for snow riding.

The only maintenance required is to GT-85 the chain thoroughly after use. The rest of the bike practically cleans itself.

And nothing brings tyre treads up cleaner...

love the mud just makes the same trails diffrent really like the challanges that wet roots etc bring to the ride and as i ride singlespeed just put the bike back in the shed till next ride,walk in the house strip in kitchen and put riding gear in washing machine job done head for shower 8)

Fuxake get a grip. Keep yer full sus in the garage, ride yer hardtail. Out in the mud, home, hose down and GT85 and wipe the chain. Repeat.

Most people on this thread just don't like washing the bike, tells a story about how lazy people have become.

bucket & sponge. sorted.

Yeah buzz. I agree re the tyres. I must have twenty in the garage that would be more suitable than this one which has been worn to hell...

These look like crossmarks? Get some winter tyres! Good choice of car though 😀

Nobeer ftw. It's only mud for gawds sake. Wet dust 😀

Hose, brush, lube. Beer 🙂

Sucks like a dyson .
2 hours on the road bike today .
Why detroy hundereds of pounds worth of kit getting filthy and ruining the trails for ever . Big blocked traction tyres are great for you , but churn it up for everyone else ,as do the horseees .
Speeds are down to jogging pace and proper cornering speeds are out the window .

long since gone off mud, three hours on the road bike today and the bike is clean, no chance of that on the mtb at this time of year.

Big blocked traction tyres are great for you , but churn it up for everyone else ,as do the horseees . Speeds are down to jogging pace and proper cornering speeds are out the window .

Nope. But it depends where you ride.

I like mud but I don't like what it does to my trails, so I tend to avoid them when they're too soggy.

mud just ads variation to the trails and keeps them intresting and provides a different challange. it also greatly improves your skills.there nothing like nailing a technical section of trail in wet muddy conditions and getting the two wheel drifts on!
i can see that it may not be so much fun if your a xc mile muncher
riding on less tenchnical boggy moorland etc.
trail centres with armoured surfaces are a good bet if don't like mud. some places ,such as cannock, actually ride better in the wet.

What is this cleaning of the bike people talk about??

Dunnno pop.

snow riding is awesome, makes the tyres look brand new again 🙂

Try South Downs death chalk clag . Where , in a split second the back wheel is suddenly the front wheel and you are doing a close up inspection of the green algae that bloom on the wet chalk , the very thing that gives it the drag co-efficient of melting ice.

singletrackmind - I remember the first time I encountered wet chalk on a bike. I did a great impression of bambi on ice (just far less cute!). Went back home to Wales realising that biking down south wasn't always as easy as I'd assumed ...

Buy some schwalbe 26er cx tyres. £10 an end from on one.
They don't give you extra grip but you sure slice through the muddy bogs.
Ride a hard tail with mud guards and a neo guard and you are laughing.
On my regular loop I know there are going to be some real horror sections but look forward to trying to clean (!) them.

Cycling on wet chalk does wonders for toning one's glutes.

Nothing works... wet chalk defies tyres as diverse as Minions or Small Block Eights. You just have to be ready to bail at a second's notice.

Solution seems simple- paint your tyres with this:

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Chalk will stick to them lovely after that.

Mud is horrible

Everything is a slog, then its another half hour cleaning the bike, then hosing yourself down, dragging grit through the house until I can throw my clothes in the washing machine

Rubbish

Dry or frozen is where its at

Mud is the very best reason for riding a singlespeed. Don't bother cleaning it, just wait for the next rain - never far off.

Full respect for those who ride SS.
On yesterdays ride the drag was so great that I was in granny on some of the flats. Any incline would result in a spin out, and I had to bypass a few climbs through grassy paddocks as they would have just been long pushes through bog - not much fun.
I've got mud right through the house and car.
I hate cleaning bikes. Its not laziness it just seems like a pointless exercise when 30 seconds into your next ride all your efforts are wasted.
I've decided its trail centres in the winter for me.
As for tyre selection they don't come much more aggressive than my Bonti 29-4's.
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I've overtaken walkers on the SDW, downhill, sideways and on my ~rse too 🙂

I understand where you are coming from Ben.

I've lived in Leeds for 18 months now and the local loop, or variations of, take in Roundhay, Shadwell, Wyke, Harewood, Eccup, Adel and MVT. I rode for the first time yesterday after a 3 week absence due to a crash and it's the worst I've seen it. Sh1tty, horrible conditions.

Luckily for me I loved it due to my riding absence and hopefully it will freeze over in the near future. In the meantime I'll be heading back down the M1 to ride my old local loop out of Sheff which is less boggy due to the surface and gradient. Lee and Cragg Quarry are also other options. You just need to ride elsewhere, if possible, until it freezes*

*Probably said elsewhere in the post

cx are ace in the mud, you dont slow down as much and seem to be able to carry a straighter line.

fat tyes on a mtb is such a chore in sticky mud

yesterday i did manage to rip out a screw from my spd cleat, probably from all the mud and frozen cleat..