Annoyed by unmarked police car driving…

Well – I was a driving instructor, driving instructor trainer, fleet trainer, and had every shade of advanced driving ticket for civilians. I think I know better than most on here.

I’ve met lots of people who are very qualified to do lots of things, doesn’t make them right or safe 100% of the time.

When driving I keep in the back of my mind that just because I have the training to drive in a given way, it does not automatically mean that I have the right to drive in that manner.

Better standpoint., Most of the driver training I did was mostly how to avoid the other idiots on the road by anticipation and not getting into bad situations.

Whatever…

Whatever…

Touché!

*frowny face*

Too dark?

It’s less the police you have to worry about on the roads.

…more the military:

I think Glupton’s correct, but expressing himself poorly. What he’s describing are good techniques in the right circumstances.

For example: Straight-lining a two lane roundabout in traffic – immensely dangerous. Doing it when there’s no-one else to be seen in any direction – why wouldn’t you?

I honestly can’t tell if Glupton’s trolling…

glupton1976 – Member

To do the manoeuvre properly you go into the gap smoothly with an early indicator then once your settled in the gap you gently decrease your speed to take the gap back to a safe one.

So, the gap’s not safe (“take the gap back to a safe one”) and to make it safe you’re relying on forcing another driver to slow down and create space, which besides being specifically against the Highway Code is downright inconsiderate to other road users, and dependant on other drivers reacting how you expect them to… And you’re doing this because…

That’s not a maneuvre that most drivers “don’t know about”, it’s a maneuvre that most people just choose not to use.

While it’s perfectly legal to drop into a gap just about big enough it’s not exactly the best driving technique for safety on the M62 in traffic.

Glupton is right, it is taught at an advanced level and no doubt if the police man wasn’t too busy most likely following someone (hence no blue lights to the front and only to the rear) then he may have pulled the OP over to remind him of some more advanced driving principles. In fact plod may well be bored in the next 24 hours and pop round to have a chat… You never know.

A mate was driving back and I was a passenger. It was dark and two bikes flew past well over the limit.
My mate moves to over take the car in front only for a car to flash his headlights in the rearview mirror. My mate doesn’t move, the car behind then puts mainbeam on and illuminates our car.

So the policeman aggressively tried to force his way past, despite the fact that he has blue lights and sirens to make people get out of the way if there is a valid reason for the copper to make progress.

I think most people would try to get out of the way of an official vehicle responding to an emergency. A rep in a beemer (which is what someone coming up and flashing you looks like) is much less likely to achieve that.

So the policeman aggressively tried to force his way past, despite the fact that he has blue lights and sirens to make people get out of the way if there is a valid reason for the copper to make progress.

Probably so that the car in front that he was following didn’t know he was a policeman, hence the unmarked car.

It’s bad enough trying to drive on the M62, my sympathies go out to those trying to police it, they would probably run out of tickets if they tried to stop everyone doing something wrong.

Probably so that the car in front that he was following didn’t know he was a policeman, hence the unmarked car.

But the policeman did eventually put the blues on.

It’s bad enough trying to drive on the M62, my sympathies go out to those trying to police it, they would probably run out of tickets if they tried to stop everyone doing something wrong.

Well, given what’s been posted on here, they might do that before they’ve even left their own car park.

Only the back lights according to the OP.

Accelerating hard and fast up behind a vehicle is a recognised technique for getting it to move out of the way when the circumstances dictate that lights and sirens aren’t appropriate.

Aggressive, yes it will appear very aggressive, but also usually effective. Its not just done for shits and giggles, there’ll be a reason for it, just not necessarily an obvious one.

Accelerating hard and fast up behind a vehicle is a recognised technique for getting it to move out of the way

It’s usually employed by Reps in Beemers and Audis though – and aggressive driving might be a good thing for a copper to be worrying about dealing with, rather than emulating

Couldn’t the Polis have a scrolling lights type thing saying “Sorry mate, Bizzies be Bizzyin’ ” followed by a smiley emoticon or something? It would calm down folk like the OP down no end. I think the OP was right to be a bit peeved at the behaviour of the Car-Polis but after the excitement of being involved in a chase wore off, he should have reached a level that didn’t require an angry post on STW. Nobody died eh?

Indeed it might zokes, perhaps at those times when they haven’t got something more urgent to do that necessitates them getting through traffic quickly and discreetly.

So, as soon as you pulled back in, he was able to “shoot off” at 85/90mph? Sounds like he might have been trying to follow the car in front and you were in his way.
The flashing of the rear blue lights and matrix sign might have been him explaining why he was in such hurry, rather than a threat.

On balance that sounds a likely explanation – I did see him a few miles along having pulled over someone.

johndoh, I told you that last night…

On balance that sounds a likely explanation – I did see him a few miles along having pulled over someone.

Wow.

So you actually saw that he had pulled someone over a few minutes after

and you didn’t come to that conclusion straight away ? 😐

There you go OP. Two “told-you-sos”. Let that be a lesson to you.

I was on a motorway (can’t remember where, near Carlisle I think) and I pulled out to overtake a middle lane hogger. I then noticed the blue flashing lights a couple of hundred yards behind me so I pulled back in behind the middle lane **** and waited for the police car to pass.

As they were passing a Thank You sign flashed in the rear window. Gave me a warm fuzzy feeling which I don’t normally get from the police.

johndoh – Member
On balance that sounds a likely explanation – I did see him a few miles along having pulled over someone.

Gotta love the way little snippets of vital information keep dribbling out of the OP as the thread goes on.

I call Troll.

Oh and I suspect the quick flash of the police sign was the police driver’s equivalent of a clip round the ear and “oi! Don’t do it again”

I wouldnt expect folk who just did driving lessons then a standard car test to know about that manoeuvre though.

Truly a thing of beauty.

Well – I was a driving instructor, driving instructor trainer, fleet trainer, and had every shade of advanced driving ticket for civilians. I think I know better than most on here.

You might be the World Best Top King of Champions, but if you delivered any of that training in the manner you posted, I’m amazed there was a fleet left.

deadlydarcy – Member

There you go OP. Two “told-you-sos”. Let that be a lesson to you.

Obvious conclusion to draw though wasnt it, have to echo nealglover sentiments, very odd op considering later admission

I dread to think how many unmarked cop cars I’ve pissed off over the years. If an rep-mobile comes screaming up and tailgates me, putting the full beam on, I tend to match speed with whatever I’m overtaking for at least another mile… 😳

There you go OP. Two “told-you-sos”.

Only one actually.

Mine wasn’t a “told-you-so” at all.

Because I didn’t “tell-him-so”

And the reason I didn’t, was that he didn’t mention the second half of the story where he saw the Unmarked Car a few minutes later after they had pulled over the car they were obviously following.

Just seems like that was fairly important information really.

And makes the whole situation easily explained.

You might be the World Best Top King of Champions, but if you delivered any of that training in the manner you posted, I’m amazed there was a fleet left.

What – to the point, no waffle, not really caring too much about who I upset as long as they learn something and realise they dont know everything? Yes that’s the way I taught and I make no apologies for it.

Too right, the world is full of folk who get all chippy when contradicted though, though. 🙂

What – to the point, no waffle, not really caring too much about who I upset as long as they learn something and realise they dont know everything? Yes that’s the way I taught and I make no apologies for it.

Well I realised you don’t know everything.

Not sure if that helps. ?

And the reason I didn’t, was that he didn’t mention the second half of the story where he saw the Unmarked Car a few minutes later after they had pulled over the car they were obviously following.

Just seems like that was fairly important information really.

And makes the whole situation easily explained.
I didn’t say it in the OP because I was still steaming pissed off about it, but thanks to this wonderful thread I was given opportunity to reconsider what happened and reconsider my initial anger 😉

But still, driving like that was out of order – there really was no need to drive that closely or intimidate me like he did. IMO.

What – to the point, no waffle, not really caring too much about who I upset as long as they learn something and realise they dont know everything? Yes that’s the way I taught and I make no apologies for it.

That doesn’t mean that you’re neither wrong nor appearing to be an arrogant, condescending prat.
Congratulations. You managing to appear as both.

Not for the first time 😕

One thing that I’ve been told many times in my life is “i hate it when you’re correct”. I dont have a problem with that.

no-one likes a cleverclogs

Two sides to that though Yunki – nobody likes being told they are wrong.

nobody likes being told they are wrong.

ahh.. I don’t have any personal experience of how that feels

I thought I was wrong once. Turns out I was mistaken.

I’d love to watch you make your professionally trained ‘expertz wid rad skillz only’ lane 3 to sliproad manouvre on the M25 at rush hour, cracking viewing!

You are coming across as significantly more of a cock than the OP, so he should be thankful to you!

But still, driving like that was out of order – there really was no need to drive that closely or intimidate me like he did. IMO.

Well. It might be that he needed to catch that bloke but didn’t want to have the big blue lights and siren on to tip him off. You know, like you said 😉

It might be that he needed to catch that bloke

And driving that close to me whilst flashing his lights was likely to help him catch the car any quicker?

Why did you not just ease of the throttle or prod the brake pedal?