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  • Advice please – cat needs an eye removed
  • derek_starship
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    We’ve looked after Ted for just over four years. He kind of adopted us and we’ve fed him and looked after him ever since. Even getting him a house in the garden. He is a proper outdoor cat though. He’ll come into the kitchen for five minutes while we put his food out but then he’s off.

    Ten days ago we took him to the vet with what we thought was conjunctivitis. It turned out it was a corneal ulcer so we treated it with prescribed med’s. It seemed to be improving and then it seemed to deteriorate. Cutting to the chase, we were told this morning that the eye must be removed.

    This will cost the best part of £1k and will require him to remain indoors for ten days until the wound heals.

    Ted is about 10 years old.

    We’re in turmoil so are turning to STW for some practical and objective advice.

    The money – well we can scrape it together with a few sales of hobby stuff.

    The rehab will be extremely difficult given he’s an outdoor cat and we already have Button an indoor cat.

    What will his quality of life be after having an eye removed? Will he be safe outside?

    My question boils down to this: operation or euthanasia.

    Thanks

    [mod edit: bumped this link up into the OP]

    Ted’s Just Giving page

    hols2
    Free Member

    euthanasia

    FB-ATB
    Full Member

    Friend’s cat had an eye removed with no issue, but it was more of a house cat. If he spends that much time outside- how many scrapes does he get into and would this hold him back. At his age which is a bit of a guess if he was feral previously this might be the start of further issues.

    Our cat had been wild when he appeared at our friends (taking their 2 cat’s food). They didn’t want a 3rd and no signs of anyone missing a cat (he wasn’t tagged or neutered) so we took him in. They live near us (he still pops over to say hello and nick food) – we kept him in for c3-4 days so he knew this was home. He didn’t like it at all having been a free agent.

    joefm
    Full Member

    What are the consequences of not having it done?

    derek_starship
    Free Member

    What are the consequences of not having it done?

    Well in the short term, continued pain. Then I guess infection and possibly sepsis and…
    The eye is ruptured.

    carlos
    Free Member

    Operation

    We had Charlies left eye removed about 2 1/5 yrs ago (he is now 16/17) and he has been absolutely fine. Yeah he fell off the work top a couple of times and took a few days to adjust whilst inside. But since then he’s not had any other issues at all. As for quality of life. I don’t see (pardon the pun) that his has changed. He still goes out all the time as he too is an outdoor cat, coming in for food and now and again into the garage to sleep. Obviously not a big fan of staying in for the rehab, but it was what it was.

    We had ours done on the Insurance and think it was about £800 – £900.

    From memory it was the lens that seemed to have become detached and was pressing on the Iris or some chamber. It also looked like conjunctivitis, but a specialist scan revealed otherwise.

    timbog160
    Free Member

    Ten days does not seem like a very long time for an ulcer to heal. I’d consider getting a second opinion on whether it’s worth persevering with meds.

    Otherwise I’m afraid I’d be with hols2, but ultimately only you can make that judgement.

    martinhutch
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    You can’t rehab him properly unless you literally confine him to a room in the house, which will be bedlam with a cat like that. You can barely afford 1K, by the sounds of it. This is a 10-year-old semi-feral cat who may/may not be at a big disadvantage in his territory post-op. Average lifespan of a feral cat is not much more than that.

    Tough decision, but I think I know what I would do in your position.

    zilog6128
    Full Member

    I like cats but wouldn’t spend £1k that I could barely afford on a stray. Is there a local cat/animal charity that can help? Facebook/Just giving campaign? (although I really hate that kind of thing personally!)

    hels
    Free Member

    At that age he has a good few years left in him. Putting him down would be a terrible thing to do.

    Set up a JustGiving page, I will put in some money.

    daveylad
    Free Member

    Been scanned for a chip? Cats protection or rspca I would suggest. Its not really your cat to make that decision.

    johndrummer
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    Euthanasia on a 10 year old cat that is otherwise in fine health seems to me somewhat cruel. I’ll put some into your just giving page

    derek_starship
    Free Member

    I didn’t think about a charity approach. I’m humbled already.I’ll get working on it. Thank you.


    @daveylad
    – he’s been declared unchipped by the vet. By default after four years I think he now falls under our responsibility.

    toby
    Full Member

    Is there a PDSA near you who you could take him to? They often work out cheaper through being semi-charitable and treating the pets of the hard up who are paying themselves.

    mehr
    Free Member

    My dog had his eye taken out about 4 years ago and it doesnt bother him, he’s 14 and still going strong

    cheburashka
    Free Member

    Give him a chance. I’ll donate.

    If he’s managed a few weeks with one good eye, one bad eye and I assume excruciating pain, he’ll be fine with just the one good eye.

    Davesport
    Full Member

    One of my cats has no eyes. Colin had one removed after several botched attempts by a local vet at scraping the ulcer off. He fessed up after the last of several attempts that he might end up puncturing his eye that he should have gone to the veterinary ophthalmologist as a first option. The cat ophthalmologist agreed & the treatment options were very limited. Unfortunately it didn’t heal & the first eye was removed. He made a full recovery & was no worse off apart from the scar that was left. His remaining eye followed a year later. So now completely blind.

    He’s lived in this house all his life & knows his way around. He’s got excellent quality of life otherwise & is still the same lovely wee animal he was before. Still trudges round the garden, climbs up on things and gets completely lost.

    I don’t know if a 2nd opinion would help you or not but he’ll adapt and will probably be completely ok. You have my fullest sympathy as it can be very distressing.

    hels
    Free Member

    Also – you might be surprised how much less ferral he becomes when he has to stay inside after surgery. Aside from the drugs keeping keeping him woozey cats are very cynical survivors!

    daveylad
    Free Member

    he’s been declared unchipped by the vet. By default after four years I think he now falls under our responsibility.

    Hopefully castrated also. Yes he is your cat now then. PDSA or something like that may help? Good luck and thank you for caring.

    johnx2
    Free Member

    I’ve seen loads of places that do this

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    derek_starship
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    joshvegas
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    I was about to buy something i really don’t need so i removed it from the shopping basket and gave it to Teddy Oneeye.

    footflaps
    Full Member

    At that age he has a good few years left in him. Putting him down would be a terrible thing to do.

    Set up a JustGiving page, I will put in some money.

    +1

    He’ll survive 10 days shut in a bedroom, he’ll make a huge fuss then just go to sleep for most of it.

    As for living with only one eye, he’ll adapt and I doubt it will make much difference to his quality of life.

    Marin
    Free Member

    Welders gloves and a spoon?

    Davesport
    Full Member

    Donated. Love cats :o)

    scuttler
    Full Member

    One eyed cats are badass

    zilog6128
    Full Member

    Ted = official STW cat

    footflaps
    Full Member

    We had to keep one of ours inside for 3 weeks last December and feed him every 2 hours via an oesophageal feeding tube, which he absolutely hated. The process generally involved me firing liquidised cat food over the carpet, sofa, bed, the cat, myself etc. Whole place stank as a result. Anyway, all back to normal now…

    Bertie and his oesophageal feeding tube by Ben Freeman[/url], on Flickr

    Liquidised cat foot for oesophageal feeding tube by Ben Freeman[/url], on Flickr

    derek_starship
    Free Member

    Ingress of dust!

    Flabbergasted by your generosity folks. Really we are.

    Ted is more than happy to be STW cat!

    Cougar
    Full Member

    What will his quality of life be after having an eye removed? Will he be safe outside?

    That’s a question for the vet I’d have thought. I was in a similar situation a few years ago, I asked “if we do all this will he be OK?” to which the vet replied “no, he’ll still be a very sick cat.” At which point the question then became “who are we doing this for then, exactly?”

    My question boils down to this: operation or euthanasia.

    Objectively (ie, head rather than heart) this hinges on the above. How will he fare afterwards?

    I’d hazard that he’ll be fine after a bit of adjustment and 10 is really no age for a cat, they can live to be twice that. Our current kitty lost a leg when very young, she was traumatised for a while but now it’s like living with Yoda – she hobbles around like an old man until she decides to run and then she’s faster than greased squirrel shit.

    I’ve bunged you a couple of quid, if you take the nuclear option I want it back.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    One eyed cats are badass

    Mate, that’s not his eye.

    Cougar
    Full Member

    The process generally involved me firing liquidised cat food over the carpet

    Catapulting?

    I feel your pain, I had to give Mollie antibiotics recently (there’s a thread elsewhere on STW). I’d rather juggle chainsaws than do that again.

    Onzadog
    Free Member

    I’ve dropped a little in the tin for him.

    Not really a fan of cats but don’t like the idea of one suffering.

    blackmountainsrider
    Free Member

    I love cats, so Ive donated a little bit. Hope we will get to see him looking like a badass

    derek_starship
    Free Member

    Of course we’ll keep you informed.

    Thank you STWers.

    bigG
    Free Member

    oops

    bigG
    Free Member

    Dropped some funds in to the pot, kids and the cats wish Ted all the best of luck

    G

    uwe-r
    Free Member

    euthanasia

    Another vote for this. There are far more worthy causes out there.

    dyna-ti
    Full Member

    Operation.

    Do what we can. Too big a debate and too emotional. Only to say, is this what you’d want your family to do for you.

    Our family have always had a cat. On a main road we’ve been through a few, starting with a huge ginger tom that we first saw silhouetted in the porch door on xmas eve, origin unknown, but became the cat of the house for the next 12 years till an overtaking car got him. All his experience of the road and he was caught out by some **** overtaking on a suburban road. We called him Jasper , god alone knows why.
    Next up was Suzi and Mindy.
    Suzi was timid and lived pretty much inside all the time, that played a part in deteriorating health. Mindy was outdoor as outdoor gets and we even saw here bypassing the road by walking over the railway bridge.
    She while walking on a fence fell and was impaled on one of the spikes, but made it home to safety and survived a number of operations including an open chest surgery to clean up the damage made by the spike. Not the most affectionate of cats, and more likely to scratch and bite you as well as be friendly, but she knew to come back. Survived another 8 years and in that time lost half an ear and a tail.
    Unfortunately lost on the road.
    Next max. Mum’s alone by now and the cat a 2nd son to her(A first I sometimes wonder), but unfortunately Max didnt survive the road, and we only had him 2 years. She’s reluctant to let them out, knowing the dangers and knowing young cats arent experienced enough to know the dangers, but she hates them sitting at the door, desperate to go out to explore this big new world. What can you do eh ?. Its a huge garden, but across the road must look so inviting.
    No cat for a while and she is now in mid 70’s
    Then she receives a kitten from a neighbour, who seemingly bought them on gumtree and their heath was poor to begin with.
    It was the runt of the litter and not expected to survive. Mum fed that cat a hell of a lot of chicken. More chicken than an Olympian and as a result it grew to gigantic cat proportions, but not fat.
    The original breeders tried to cross a rag doll and tabby and what the result hadnt worked, hence the early problems.
    After 2 years he was forced to let him out, as she’s old and a constantly meowing cat is not good for her health and we all agreed and if the worst happened we’d try not to get as upset.

    The ragdoll breeding left the cat will little sense of danger and the first big incident after falling as a kitten off a high table sometime during the night and breaking a rear leg, requiring the ball end of it to be amputated, still got the leg, runs funny but doesnt let that stop him.
    But at some point he’s come into contact with a big dog, and judging from the injuries sustained had him entirely in its jaws across the back. Massive nerve damage according to the vet and to this day the entire area is devoid of fur. His tail died as a result of the injuries.
    She doesnt know where exactly this took p[lace, but it was in someones garden and he was covered in oily water, probably from the owner throwing a bucket of whatever over the dog to release him.
    Theres not really a dog within 3oom, and thats one hell of a journey to make it back.
    My Mother also feels we owe them a responsibility, and despite her age nursed him back to health. Vets at 8am drive, up at any time of the night.

    The bottom line is each time the injured cats, as near feral as they are knew to come home to get help. You cannot deny them that.

    My own story of cats is being given one by a friends sister while she went to uni. Not a loan, and adopting.
    Working at that time in the meat trade the scraps were plentiful and i fed him his hearts desire, cooked ham chicken etc, but the reality of my restricted diet caused him internal blockages in the bowel.
    At the end he kept coming to me and meowing as if to play but i selfishly pushed him away. By the time i realized there was a problem it was too late to make a difference though I insisted and put him through an operation the vet said was unlikely to make a difference, but it was a chance, it cost £1800, and that was 10 years ago.
    I did it because i didnt see the problem at first and felt a responsibility to do whatever it took, **** the cost. It was my fault and had i acted sooner he’d have survived easily.
    I’ve not had a cat since as i dont think im fit to be attentive to their needs and to treat them as another member of the family, albeit one who cannot speak. I do love the little furry bundles of craws and teeth. The rude house guest. But it takes responsibility.

    Actually, I wouldnt instill that in the family. “Yeah, pull the plug, it would have been what dad/gramps/uncle.. would have wanted” :lol:

    davros
    Full Member

    Having been through an expensive and stressful ordeal with one of our cats who had his leg amputated, I’ve chipped in to help. As others have said, it’s amazing how they adapt. I hope it goes well for him. Keep us updated!

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