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Well done fella.
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yeh, good effort !
(when it was 1st announced on the radio, they said that another (younger) kid had achieved the same thing an hour after he got to the top of everest but no mention of that since)
I'm shedding an emotional tear here. It's been a hell of a journey for him though, I'm sure.
So you are human after all.
Yeah I missed the signup for global mountaineering challenges day when I was at school. Silly me.
Achievement my arse.. 🙁
You miserable twunts.
Achievement my arse..
Achievement isn't a verb so I guess school time was wasted anyway. 😕
I think it's fantastic that a kid, starting from a seriously disadvantaged area like Surbiton, could rise up to complete this challenge. The more I think about it, the more emotional I get. His folks must have sacrificed a lot for this.
Achievement my arse...
In the context, there's nothing wrong with Molly's usage in this case.
I get miserable when some kid gets celebrated for having done something as if it's been a real struggle against adversity, rather than just a jolly that was only possible cos they've got the opportunity.
Well, then step away from your expensive computers and put your hair shirts on then.
Can't have you being lucky enough to use a computer now can we?
Well, then step away from your expensive computers and put your hair shirts on then.Can't have you being lucky enough to use a computer now can we?
You miserable twunt.
get miserable when some kid gets celebrated for having done something as if it's been a real struggle against adversity, rather than just a jolly that was only possible cos they've got the opportunity.
Yup, 'cos climbing Everest is a bit of a jolly isn't it.
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takes a **** load of money though, mum & dad must be loaded eh? good on him though... no doubt he'll be an annoying precocious twunt in later life 😆
Yup, 'cos climbing Everest is a bit of a jolly isn't it.
Given favourable weather conditions, the right equipment and a guide paid for by Mama and Papa, it's just a long drawn out walk.
takes a **** load of money though, mum & dad must be loaded eh? good on him though... no doubt he'll be an annoying, precocious, [b]wealthy[/b] twunt in later life
Maybe so, but doing all that before your 17th.
Miserable twunts.
Given favourable weather conditions, the right equipment and a guide paid for by Mama and Papa, it's just a long drawn out walk.
Of course it is. Why I'm surprised it took so long to climb initially and how so many people have died attempting it. Perhaps they should stop the numpties in their reeboks and shorts starting the climb eh.
dd in jealous of younger, fitter, healthier buck shocker...
Jealousy all over, Don.
It no huge achievement to get up there if you have paid enough. basically you will be hauled up on the end of a rope. How much did all that cost? I be a lot more impressed by doing solo unsupported stuff.
Read [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Into_Thin_Air ]into thin air[/url]
It no huge achievement to get up there if you have paid enough. basically you will be hauled up on the end of a rope. How much did all that cost? I be a lot more impressed by doing solo unsupported stuff.
What are you talking about? Everest? Talking from experience again?
basically you will be hauled up on the end of a rope.
Even if you succumb to a cerebral or pulmonary edema given that you're at an altitude which the human body struggles to cope with ?
TJ talking bollox again. 🙄
You need to read "into thin air" You will never view Everest and commercial trips up in in the same light.
If you can cope with the altitude and get a window in the weather you will be taken to the top.
TJ and his leftie chums climbed Everest in their sandals with only their state benefits to fund them. A far greater achievement.
Or perhaps speak directly to people who've done it, or perhaps speak to the dude who was the first to climb Mt McKinley (Czech dude) or perhaps not listen to people who live their lives vicariously.
Read the book. Then you might understand.
Read the book.
Is that the closest you've got to attempting Everest ? Or have you (shock horror) climbed a Munro and therefore know chapter and verse on high altitude mountaineering ?
Read it
You're still a bunch of sanctimonious throbbers.
Why? How did this help the wee boy on the other six peaks and what will it give me from real people who've climbed real mountains? Or am I a liar?
If you want to understand why I don't view it as an amazing achievement for the boy and why I have distaste for the commercial expeditions who take people with very little experience up Everest you need to read that book.
TJ. I've read it. You're still a sanctimonious throbber.
the highest I have been is around 16 000 ft IIRC. leading a group.
How/much did you spend then? Clearly you're rich enough for this. Lucky you.
Pennies. Took a route from a map and climbed it. No guides. Only a trekking route in south america. Nothing difficult bar the height.
Nothing difficult bar the height.
Which was ? How long were you in the "death zone" i.e. > 8000m
Oh, you are so much more worthy than the kid in the Op's comment....
I salute you, comrade.......
Twunt.
A whilst you are giving me a kicking note that others felt the same way.
get over yourselves. How you can think it amazing after reading that book CFH is beyond me.
Other peoples lives were put in danger so he could do it.
If you want to understand why I don't view it as an amazing achievement for the boy and why I have distaste for the commercial expeditions who take people with very little experience up Everest you need to read that book.
Or perhaps i could speak directly to people who have climbed Everest, my stepfather. Or people who've scaled Mt McKinley the first time on the Slovak Route, or perhaps you're beteer and more knowledgable than these people. Or people who've scaled numerous peaks in the Poprads, or people who've worked for the Czech mountain rescue. But why bother? Tj's read a book and had no real experience.
TJ your view may be valid for Everest, but the other peaks?
Are you really that jealous?
While the chap in the first post should be congratulated for his personal efforts. This [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-13564461 ]young man[/url] Did it with more style and to the casual observer appears to be a little less for personal gain.
I still feel that these "youngest" records are a bit wrong when it comes to potentially high risk activities and obvious backing from pushy (and rich) parents. When does it become "too" young to attempt a trip up everest?!
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If you can cope with the altitude and get a window in the weather you will be taken to the top.
Yeah, and if it all goes pear shaped, you end up like Beck Wethers or one of the ones who didn't come back. Did you read the same Into Thin Air as me TJ?
TJ == armchair mountaineer
Yup Geoff - that why I don't like the way they take inexperienced people up there putting not just themselves but other folks lives at risk.
TJ, you need to flounce again. Oh, nd come to terms with the fact that you are not always right.
Waiting to be told why I should read the book, speak to me TJ.
My question is did his school authorise all of the time he must have taken off to do this and will his parents get fined for taking him out of school during term time? Tut, tut...
[url= http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=62399 ]a better story.[/url]
don simon in easily impressed and not happy with the faintest whiff of criticism shocka!
Still waiting for the superior knowledge of TJ.
Its just an opinion. Thats all it is same as its just your opinion that its an amazing achievements. However opinions that you disagree with yo don't like do you.
Sit in your chair and think wow amazing cos some kid paid people many thousands of pounds to be taken up these mountains. Putting other people at risk as well as himself
all the pies - a little more than an armchair mountaineer tho no Jock Nimlin or Dougal Haston. Whats your experience?
don simon - MemberWaiting to be told why I should read the book, speak to me TJ.
because then you might understand why I have distaste for the commercial trips that take inexperienced people up Everest.
But you haven't explained how that helped him up the othe six peaks and takes anything away from the overall achievemnt 🙄
And you haven't explained what that'll give me over the first hand stories I can get from my stepfather...
You self-righteous prig. If there's one person on here unable to accept another opinion, I think you may know who it is.
Bored now.
Still waiting for the superior knowledge of TJ.
Is he not allowed to disagree with you then? come on Teej, show your working 😉
all the pies - a little more than an armchair mountaineer tho no Jock Nimlin or Dougal Haston. EWahts your espereince?
A poxy 4000m and that essentially a walk. Given that people were suffering altitude sickness at that level and struggling for breath makes me admire those who can still function at over twice that altitude.
I suppose, we don't [i]know[/i] that he or his Mama and Papa paid guides thousands of pounds to help him up the mountains. It's just our inverse snobbery blinding us to the marvellous feat. Did he do it all solo then don? Hmmm?
Why is that you instantly accuse someone who's not impressed of jealousy? Hmmm?
Rich - of course not. Disagreeing with Don and CFH is not allowed.
I wonder what all the pies mountain experience is?
TJ - a lot of people have jobs that put themselves at risk. Getting paid to take people up mountains is probably one of the better ones.
I've not read into thin air, but I believe it's about the 1996 everest tragedy? I think a lot of lessons were learned for commercial operations that day.
I don't think it's necessary to be sanctimonious about commercial climbing operations. And the first 6 peaks will have conditioned him quite well, he's hardly inexperienced. Aconcagua and Denali are good practice summits for everest. Not that I would know anything as I'm also an armchair mountaineer. 😉
Bored now.
Shag off then. You won't be missed.
Bored now.
Good 🙂
Rich - of course not. Disagreeing with Don and CFH is not allowed.
And Google and commercial books are, of course, more important than real people.
TJ, look at the arguments I come head to head with you, they are not random, it is not a persecution. They are areas I have knowledge of, I don't feel or have the need to prove anything, to you or to anyone. It is not point scoring, it is not a battle. Get ove it.
supersessions - yes it is about 1996.
TandemJeremy - MemberIt no huge achievement to get up there if you have paid enough. basically you will be hauled up on the end of a rope. How much did all that cost? I be a lot more impressed by doing solo unsupported stuff.
Read into thin air
thats all I said to get me flammed.
Numerous twunts, prigs, and sanctimonious types abound.
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I'm kind of with TJ on this.
My question is why? Is there anything aesthetic about the 7 summits? More of a tick list than anything. Why should we be astounded by someone of that age completing this list? I know a couple of kids at school capable of the feat given the oportunity.
Don - so what have you climbed then?
TandemJeremy - Membersupersessions - yes it is about 1996.
TandemJeremy - Member
It no huge achievement to get up there if you have paid enough. basically you will be hauled up on the end of a rope. How much did all that cost? I be a lot more impressed by doing solo unsupported stuff.
Read into thin air
thats all I said to get me flammed.
A famous TJ apology?
So what have you climbed then don simon?
Well, my former housemate's girlfriend's father went up there on an expedition with that eejit Brian Blessed. But for a wee breeze on summit day, they'd have made it up. This was around the mid nineties. He said there were just a load of rich fat muppets up there any of whom could have made it up given the right conditions. Most of them had to have their tents pitched for them FFS.
don's in projectionist mode ce soir.
What has that got to do with me appreciating the abilities of others?
You came on slating the boy's achievements claiming to know better and then back tracked with an all innocent comment.
I know people who've climed and died, I know the stories that have been told and the stories that haven't been told, they are the important ones. As with most areas, empty vessels make most noise. And you are an empty vessel.
I don't think it's the privileged nature of his circumstances that matters here - kid has still "climbed" several big mountains
most UK skiers, sailors, rowers, tennis players etc etc etc are there in part due to their domestic "wealth"
I'm more impressed with the sherpa who completed his 21st ascent this year (leading an expedition that was intended to bring down all the shite that other groups leave behind) but I'm not calling for the guillotine for the UK kid just yet
Don -
I did not slate the boys acheivements nor have I backtracked. Try reading what I posted Nor did I claim to know better. slag me for what I have said by all means but don't make things up. It just makes you look even more foolish
don simon - Member....... They are areas I have knowledge of,
good - please tell me what yo have climbed? or are you an armchair expert.
Can we just get back to slagging off the young lad? The TJ v don thing is upsetting and they won't let me join in.
You're ignoring me, remember?
Don - what have you climbed that allows you to have knowledge of this?
You're ignoring me, remember?
I am? 😕
OK, if not ignoring being a [url= http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/debbie-harry#post-2606378 ]****[/url]. 😀
Don - so despite your protestations and claiming
don simon - Member....... They are areas I have knowledge of,
You actually have no knowledge of mountaineering.
What was that you said about empty vessels?
@ don 😳
Y'see, if you're (ie me) going to start a wind up on a Debbie Harry thread, it's best not to forget you started it in the first place and not come back. Apologies old chap 🙂
Read what I have written, you haven't climbed Everest yet you want to cite books on the experience without knowing the author. I was brought up in an environment of ice and mountain climbing, unlike most empty vessels I don't feel the need to prove myself on a public forum and I won't, but I could.
I could tell you about my experiences in the world of professional cycling, but I won't.
I could tell you about certain stocks and shares to buy, but I won't.
A few years ago I could have told you about certain Spanish Govt policies, but I won't.
I don't have anything to demonstrate to a pseudo jock.