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A Life less ordinary…
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teaselFree Member
Cerebral!!
Next time you wake up in the middle of the night, brain racing, try reading a dictionary
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teaselFree MemberDon’t apologise, it’s actually quite amusing. As is…
I’m not the brain of britain but I feel if I has a focussed approach…[aye]…
..where you’re starting to sound like Ali G or other psuedo-Stains-dwelling yoof. Maybe that’s what was meant by celebral – you have a form of celebrity personality disorder…
puddFree MemberStan. You have it all but i think you need a new distraction. Do you do much exercise?
I recently went through similar stuff. I was (not implying you are) extremely overweight, lost the lard, then joined a gym, got bitten by the bug but was still being undually fussy with every one so started MMA. a bit random maybe but it stopped me searching out something i didn’t need and focus more on basic stuff like my misses, my daughter and my Daft JRT.
Nothing beats simple base level endeavours to keep you focused. Plus you get to beat the poops out of folk to.finbarFree MemberPaying off your mortgage early is hardly a “life less ordinary”. Well, maybe it is unusual, but you know what i mean.
druidhFree MemberIt’s more what that then enables. Too many folk are channelled into increasing debt, which becomes a stress and a burden.
finbarFree MemberI know, i just thought it was a funny juxtaposition with the original thread title.
BigButSlimmerBlokeFree MemberWhat did you want to be/do when younger?
Spider-man
i was close to it as well because I could, as a teenager, make white sticky stuff fly across the room with a quick flick of the wrist.glasgowdanFree Memberfinbar – Member
Paying off your mortgage early is hardly a “life less ordinary”. Well, maybe it is unusual, but you know what i mean.Eh? Of course it’s a major thing, it enables you to change your approach, cut back on work a bit, spend more time with the family/people you love, use the cash you would have spent on it for charity, travelling, expanding your experiences.
Kryton57Full MemberPudd – any hint to how we know each other? FWIW I ride 3-4 times a week and entertain the odd kettlebell session but know from my past endeavours that dedicating myself to exercise isn’t the answer. Neither is the mortgage thing (albeit a major achievement). If you know me that well you’ll know the Arts are not likely to be entertained.
No, I’m really searching for what the thread title hints at, a legacy perhaps the isn’t classed in the realm of ordinary, not even self effacing. I want it to be of the scale that other people say “he did that”, without resulting to self flagellation. Of course I may be reaching for the stars there in terms of the scale of the achievement but hey….
Ro5eyFree Member“have a burning desire to be or achieve something “different” yet not know what that thing actually is?”
Shhhh …. I don’t want your nice thread to descend into a normal STW theological mudslinging fest.
“Ask, and it shall be given to you; search, and you shall find; knock and the door will be open to you.”
Sorry that’s a biblical text and as such I sound like a God botherer
I did try and explain this via my own story which is completely normal and probably not unlike your own, but it was far more long winded.
Suffice to say, your feelings are ones that I have known …. I now have or am working to have peace with them
In fact I’ve never felt more at peace, chilled out, empowered and free… that’s not to say I know it all… far from it…. But it’s interesting this life or maybe this “inner life” …. the burning desire
Right…. It’s friday can we now get back to taking the p155 out of people, their wheels and brickies please 😀
grumFree MemberPretty much everyone in developed countries feels like this to some extent IMO. It’s because we are constantly bombarded with advertising specifically designed to make us unsatisfied with our present lot and always wanting something more.
I was chatting to a guy from Ghana the other day who lives over here and he said it’s noticeable how comparatively unhappy people are over here, despite having on the whole great living conditions etc. He puts it down to excessive advertising/materialism, and I think he has a point.
mark_bFree Membera legacy perhaps the isn’t classed in the realm of ordinary, not even self effacing. I want it to be of the scale that other people say “he did that”, without resulting to self flagellation.
How about some civic duty?
ir_banditoFree MemberAll I really aspire for is a bit more time to do everything I try to cram in my life.
Beautiful wife, 2 thoroughly barking mad sons, house in a nice town, several bikes, supportive extended family, large circle of friends, career I enjoy for a company I like working for.
Sorted, I’d say.
Yes, a newer car would be nice, as would a house with bigger kitchen and a bigger garage. To have several months of paid/affordable annual leave would be good to allow more time for holidays/travel/exploration but if you’re going down that route, how about a cure for cancer and World Peace.
finbarFree MemberEh? Of course it’s a major thing, it enables you to change your approach, cut back on work a bit, spend more time with the family/people you love, use the cash you would have spent on it for charity, travelling, expanding your experiences.
Well, yeah, but i don’t have a mortgage so i can do all that stuff anyway. The joys of renting 😀
druidhFree MemberBut then you’ll always be renting whereas those with a mortgage will, at some point, have paid it off. 8)
Kryton57Full Member…and in theory finbar, our houses we’ve invested in will be worth more than the cash you’ve saved over the same period. I did say “in theory”…
crashtestmonkeyFree MemberEnnui?
Existential angst?If your’e a student (Solo if not the OP) you should be all over this melancholy navel gazing. Because the ladeez love it.
Kryton57Full MemberBecause the ladeez love it.
They do? I haven’t had any approaches…?
finbarFree MemberBut then you’ll always be renting whereas those with a mortgage will, at some point, have paid it off.
…and in theory finbar, our houses we’ve invested in will be worth more than the cash you’ve saved over the same period. I did say “in theory”…
That’s all a bit… ordinary though. This way i can up sticks whenever i want (or at least until i
feel the needget the opportunity to get all normative and settle down).lazybikeFree MemberDon’t doubt the dream. Everyone has a dream, as you get older you start to doubt that dream, then you live a life, sometimes good, sometimes bad, but it feels…not quite right.
Kryton57Full Memberlazybike – Member
Don’t doubt the dream. Everyone has a dreamI don’t, thats half the problem…
lazybikeFree MemberYou do, just not clear to you yet…If you won 10m would you live your life differently, not just buying stuff, but differently…
JonEdwardsFree MemberIn a similar condition at the mo.
38, great partner, lovely house, nice car, nice bikes, job which I’m good at, no debts (bar the mortgage which we’re overpaying massively). Yet I’m constantly on the edge of throwing the whole lot away, because its essentially all pointless.
The job is the bit that’s particularly driving me crackers. Essentially I put on parties for people with too much money. It’s a constant fight to do the job “right”, the end result of days of mental and physical brutalility lasts for 3 or 4 hours at most, and essentially the whole sorry shebang never need happen in the first place, as it’s just a bit of diversion for rich, bored cretins. Problem is I’m good at it, I’m unqualified for anything else, and I’m fairly well paid. I’m also absolutely unwilling to take a step backwards in my (comfortable but not excessive) lifestyle because that simply is failure.
I used to live for riding my bikes, but I’m getting to the point this last few weeks that I’m terrified of going out and not being good enough. My average speed on road seems to have dropped over the summer. Off road I’m turning into a mincer. Making stupid mistakes. Falling off. Just being crap. If you’re not going to be the best you’ve ever been, why are you bothering? yet if I don’t go out constantly, of course my riding is just going to get worse. Anyway, even at the best of times, riding an expensive bike in a big circle is just another bit of selfishness, and equally pointless/wastefull.
So all that pointlessness is leaving me wondering whether any of it is worthwhile. All any of us do is sit on this frigging planet and consume what scant resources are left. Yet I can’t even do what often feels like the right thing and remove myself from it (in as clean and tidy a fashion as possible). By doing so I’ll stitch up the missus on my life insurance and get her chucked out of the house we’ve both worked so hard for.
Trapped.
All first world problems at the end of the day. It’s occurred to me farly regularly that my definition of “enjoyment” is doing something that stops me being able to think. Because thinking just brings me straight back round to how empty it all is. Maybe it would be better if we were fighting for the next scrap of food or sip of water and watching children die of disease in front of us while the rest of the world looks on uncaringly.
druidhFree MemberOnly in your eyes – and only if you let it be.
I used to live for riding my bikes, but I’m getting to the point this last few weeks that I’m terrified of going out and not being good enough. My average speed on road seems to have dropped over the summer. Off road I’m turning into a mincer. Making stupid mistakes. Falling off. Just being crap. If you’re not going to be the best you’ve ever been, why are you bothering?
Because you might actually enjoy it?
It seems to me that you are very competitive – in your career and in your riding. What’s wrong with just doing stuff because you want to/like to and not seeing it as some need to get “better” all the time?
lazybikeFree Memberessentially all pointless.
thats good! when you realize that, it means you can do anything you want, because essentially, its all pointless..
Kryton57Full MemberIt seems to me that you are very competitive – in your career and in your riding. What’s wrong with just doing stuff because you want to/like to and not seeing it as some need to get “better” all the time?
Hmm, although a completely different industry, Jons work issues reflect mine, and that statement ^^, rings very true. I always ride to “beat” my times / as hard as I can as well.
fasthaggisFull MemberMy view(others are available at popular outlets )
If you (and the people you care about) are in good physical and mental health,then life is a simple balance.
It’s the over complicating things,that spoils it.There are things that people want because they think they need them.
What do you really ,really need?Find your place on the seesaw.
JonEdwardsFree MemberWhat’s wrong with just doing stuff because you want to/like to and not seeing it as some need to get “better” all the time?
Because the bit that is FUN is the feeling of satisfaction having done something better. Bikes/climbing/driving/work/DIY/anything is just a means to access that feeling. As soon as I stop learning/improving it’s just drudgery.
grumFree MemberAll first world problems at the end of the day. It’s occurred to me farly regularly that my definition of “enjoyment” is doing something that stops me being able to think. Because thinking just brings me straight back round to how empty it all is. Maybe it would be better if we were fighting for the next scrap of food or sip of water and watching children die of disease in front of us while the rest of the world looks on uncaringly.
Sounds like you have some mental health issues (that’s not at all meant as a snarky comment btw).
JonEdwardsFree MemberReally? From where I’m standing it comes back (as demonstrated in this thread) that nobody has actually given a good, non-selfish definition of why their life isn’t empty.
The “standard” definition was the guy who was talking about bringing up kids, but to my way of thinking bringing more consumers onto the planet is selfish, and then effectively treating their upbringing as a hobby/lifestyle to keep you entertained and busy is equally selfish.
grumFree Membernobody has actually given a good, non-selfish definition of why their life isn’t empty.
I don’t feel like my life is empty at all, and I don’t have kids. I think I need to try and be a bit less materialistic and less competitive, but so do most people IMO, and I’m doing ok.
I used to live for riding my bikes, but I’m getting to the point this last few weeks that I’m terrified of going out and not being good enough.
Anyway, even at the best of times, riding an expensive bike in a big circle is just another bit of selfishness, and equally pointless/wastefull.
So all that pointlessness is leaving me wondering whether any of it is worthwhile. All any of us do is sit on this frigging planet and consume what scant resources are left. Yet I can’t even do what often feels like the right thing and remove myself from it (in as clean and tidy a fashion as possible). By doing so I’ll stitch up the missus on my life insurance and get her chucked out of the house we’ve both worked so hard for.
Trapped.
Try reading some of this stuff back with an objective eye – doesn’t sound at all healthy to me. I’ve had similar thoughts at times, and associate it with clinical depression.
If you really can’t enjoy a gentle walk or bike ride with your missus or your friends, don’t you think that’s not a healthy way to be?
And if you really hate your job and the people you work for, do something different/better. Even if you earn less money/have to have a less shiny bike/car/house/whatever. Being miserable is not worth any price IMO.
EdukatorFree MemberBecause it’s full of things I enjoy doing and people seem to enjoy doing them with me. Madame seemed to enjoy the lie in as much as me, the people down the pool were happy, the man in the computer shop fixed my box with a smile and happily took the cash, people shared the roads with no aggression. In fact it was all going swingingly till I logged on to STW (there was a downside to the man fixing the box so quickly afterall).
I thought about the kids issue and decided having one wasn’t irresponsible, would add something to my/our lives and would hopefully add an eco-friendly citizen rather than a marketing-brainwashed super-consumer.
On the grass being greener, sometimes it is. I resigned a career job with Welsh Water, quit motorsport, said farewell to the lady in my life and took a job as a campsite courrier in France. I forgot about all my old references and ambitions, new ones appeared and inspired.
Slowing down, reflexes going and feeling the effects of ageing has happened but later than I expected. I just keep buying bigger computer screens and avoid looking in the mirror with my glasses on.
chipsngravyFree MemberHappiness is a simple thing: you are happy when you are not trying to be happy
Zen Saying
(Easier said than done, but musn’t try too hard 😉 )
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