A biggy in Japan

they’ve started evacuating the residents near that nuclear power plant where the cooling system failed. 😯

http://www.shanghaidaily.org/article/?id=465954&type=Metro
http://www.shanghaidaily.org

a scary prediction in this mornings Shanghai daily

BBC are now reporting 80,000 missing

I hope it’s a typo : (

Yeah I just seen that too!! 88,000 they’re saying now

I wish I could be there to help out. Do something.

Me too, you would think the UN could have for want of a better term “a Thunderbirds team”.

would all jumping up at the same time achive anything??

Holy cow.. those fires…

its crazy that some of the buildings are being swept away are on fire…

New york times images

Me too, you would think the UN could have for want of a better term “a Thunderbirds team”.

They do. If you’d been paying attention to BBC news this morning you’d have heard the UN have something like 30 international rescue teams currently on standby. We in the UK have Internationl Rescue, who have only just returned from CHch in New Zealand after assisting in search the wreckage for survivors. What they don’t have, however, is Thunderbirds 1-4. Not that they’d be much use against a wall of water thirty feet high.

I know it sounds like a stupid question to ask why, but I’m surprised to see so many flooded buildings on fire.
I guess cookers and heaters get knocked over before they get submerged.
It’s just something I wouldn’t have anticipated.

Most buildings in rural areas of Japan tend to be timber construction, and they are floating on top of the debris, so any source of ignition will have plenty of fuel. It’s why Tokyo was destroyed in a firestorm, most buildings were timber and paper, once a fire starts, it’s difficult to stop.

Grim indeed.

Hope they sort that nuke’s cooling system. 😯

Is Bruce Willis available?

Japanese authorities now taking about a release of radioactive pressure is needed in the reactor….to atmosphere…

Sky are playing this down but it seems incredibly serious to me

1836: The power of the earthquake off north-east Japan shifted the earth’s axis by nearly 10in (25cm), Earth-issues.com reports, citing the National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology. The phenomenon is not unusual for a major quake.

Got this from the BBC site. So for those who know, what would that do?

Is there a Seismic Track world forum that anyone know of… Where is best for decent conversation on this – ive had enough of Sky News now after watching on and off since 7 this morning.

I don’t think there is that much more news to be told on the subject. It’s an earthquake, the ground shakes a lot. Actual news from the ground is understandably in short supply.

And why are you watching Sky news? It’s awful.

Why didn’t the TV Helicopter land and pick up those poor folk who were right in the path of that wall of debris? 😯

1836: The power of the earthquake off north-east Japan shifted the earth’s axis by nearly 10in (25cm), Earth-issues.com reports, citing the National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology. The phenomenon is not unusual for a major quake.
Got this from the BBC site. So for those who know, what would that do?

Changes atmosphere pressure and weather by a slight degree. So the gulfstream will/wont reach certain areas in the same way. Negligable.

For those that wear tin hats- it means in 1,000 years time we will be 200miles closer to the moon at its closest point compared to previously on some parts of the orbits..

All figures approx however the theory is good.

Where did you get that from Hora? The Earth and Moon are steadily moving away from each other as tidal forces slow the roatation of the Earth and conservation of angular momentum means the two move further apart to compensate. 200 miles seems a lot for a small initial impulse.

As for the super moon mentioned earlier I wouldn’t diss the idea too soon. The whole Eath flexes with tidal forces; it’s not just the water that follows the moon. A bit more plater flex than usual might be enough to trigger an already highly stressed fault.

Hate to say it as it is a horrific event but I am literally about to start teaching Earthquakes to Year 8 on Monday. Couldn’t of had better grim timing.

It’s the Nuclear power stations not having electricity to pump cooling systems that is more worrying now.

my first thought was not another Chenobyl as a redtricted/dead zone in such a tiny island (as a worsecase)

Please don’t scare them. Socialist teachers scared me senseless over nuclear war/winter scenarios. I didn’t go on to be a influencer in politics either so fear wasted.

Please don’t scare them

The news from Fukushima No 1 seems to be getting worse… 😥

The Earth and Moon are steadily moving away from each other as tidal forces slow the roatation of the Earth and conservation of angular momentum means the two move further apart to compensate.

Surely if the Moon slows down it’ll get closer to the Earth?

Snap analysis: Japan may have hours to prevent nuclear meltdown

😐

Wow, isn’t nuclear power wonderful.

The good thing, as everyone keeps telling me, is that it’s foolproof.
Things have changed so much since Chernobyl that accidents simply just can’t happen any more, apparently.
They’ve covered all the bases and we really don’t need to worry our silly little heads about it, as they are the experts and they know best.

I’d therefore like to apologise to all those of who told and told me that nuclear power was completely safe.
I’m sorry I disagreed and said that because humanity was involved in the design and production process, it was inevitable that things would go runny somewhere sooner or later.

Don’t I feel stupid now…..

Wow, isn’t sarcasm wonderful.

The good thing, as everyone keeps telling me, is that it gives me both a sense of moral superiority and a chance to display my sparkling wit.

This stat that the “wall of water” travels at 500mph. Am I right in thinking that it isn’t water displacing at that speed but it’s the energy that’s travelling at 500mph and the movement of water at the end is just a reaction to this energy.

A mate lives in Sendai with his wife and two young kids. We watched the news images in horror… Amazingly had an email response from them late last night – safe, had “shelter”, but no power, water etc.

carbon337,that’s how I understand it.
The wave is travelling at 500mph, not the water its self.

It’s like spinning ballet dancers molgrips, the closer the arms are in the faster the dancer pirouettes. The earth and moon tumble around each other in a common orbit around the sun. The Earth is spinning but slowing due to tdal forces/drag; day length has increased through geological time. Momentum is conserved however, so the angular momentum lost by the Earth is conserved within the Earth-Moon system; the Moon and Earth both move out from the centre of gravity of the system which is the point they tumble around.

The media are loving this. France 3 and N24 both had hour-long tsunami/earthquake specials last night. I couldn’t resist watching both. :-/

N24 was report radiation levels a 1000 times higher than normal. 🙁

This stat that the “wall of water” travels at 500mph. Am I right in thinking that it isn’t water displacing at that speed but it’s the energy that’s travelling at 500mph and the movement of water at the end is just a reaction to this energy.

When you say the energy, how is this demonstrated? Excuse my ignorance.

I’m quite interested in all this as I live in NZ, and the latest is that we’ve had a 6.2 in Tonga, which always worry’s me, being just down the way.

This stat that the “wall of water” travels at 500mph. Am I right in thinking that it isn’t water displacing at that speed but it’s the energy that’s travelling at 500mph and the movement of water at the end is just a reaction to this energy.

I think in deep water, the tsunami actually travels at many hundreds of km/h. As the water gets shallower, the wave slows down but gets higher. There’s some maths involved to do with inverse squares, but it’s far too early in the morning to be thinking about that.

I see, thanks. I guess that is why you get more than one wave then. I see that it hit Califonia quite badly. More than a fwe times. I didn’t see much damgage as yet from Hawaii, but then the it’s deeper there (maybe?) It’s all kicking off south of the equator thou i can tell you. Everyone is a bit worried what’s going to happan next.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

0810: Japanese media reports say that radioactivity has risen 20-fold outside the Fukushima-Daiichi plant.

0822: The Associated Press cites Fukushima Prefecture official Masato Abe as saying the cause of the white smoke seen above the plant is still under investigation, and that it’s unclear whether there was an explosion.

0828: Japan’s NHK TV showing before and after pictures of the Fukushima-Daiichi plant. It appears to show that the outer structure of one of four buildings at the plant is no longer there.

Even allowing for sensationalist reporting, this doesn’t look good.

they are showing video of an explosion on the bbc website 😯

Public school prick at BBC: Are there any british amongst the jolly foreigner natives?

What the British Ambasador should have said ‘why the **** do you always ask that inane question? Are 10,000 grieving relatives of less value than 10 you insensitive idiot’?