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  • anagallis_arvensis
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    For brainless see Andy Powell.

    He's not known as Mongo for nothing.
    Mongo run mongo smash, mongo like smash. Gatland like Mongo, Mongo like Gatland

    backhander
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    Jenkins and Jones 28 and 29. Sheridan and Thompson 30 and 31, vicks 33 (he is old). Hardly half the age eh? Vicks and Thompson are world champions. Vicks, Thompson, White and Sheridan are vastly experienced lions.
    James has played 8 games in 2 years. Hook is 24 (well under?)

    TimP
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    Jones (28) and Jenkins (29) both coming back from injury too so hardly in their prime

    TandemJeremy
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    Sheidan – vastly experience lion? Balderdash. How many caps has he got? How many yellow cards has he given away? Is he the the most overrated player on the planet?

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Vickery is vastly experienced in having his head shoved up his arse in south africa this summer

    anagallis_arvensis
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    James has played 8 games in 2 years

    and how many 22 year old england wings are there with 8 caps especially ones who only started playing rugby seriously in 2005/6 after being an athlete?

    TimP
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    Matt Tait had more than that at 22 years old, having already played in a RWC final by then…

    kevonakona
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    Scotlans have got a couple of 10s hidden away. Young Blair (David, not Alex) and i predict a couple more coming through. Look out for Alex Gillies in a couple of years time. Problem with D. Blair is he is still small, talented but small, and he would need lots of protection.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    yeah Matt Tait is a great example of how to introduce young players to international rugby. I'd been trying to avoid mentioning Hensons handbag.

    TimP
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    Ah, Henson – what a shining example of professionalism…

    and yes he was too young then, but it took several years to get back in the squad after that, which he has now done and he has 31 caps so far and is 24

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Ah, Henson – what a shining example of professionalism…

    What has he done wrong now?

    TimP
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    Since he walked out on rugby he has been living on beer and pizza and is now a claimed weight of 11 1/2 st down 3st from his playing weight

    TandemJeremy
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    kevonakona

    aye there are a few youngsters but not ready yet.

    We seem to have a choice of:-

    Desparate Dan – having a great season for Glasgow and playing well but never quite looked the part as an international.
    Patterson – not experienced enough at 10
    Godman – Mr Inconsistant.

    Its the real weak spot. I might be tempted to go with Parks and do what Glasgow do – put him to fullback in defense

    anagallis_arvensis
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    well seeing as how he's not playing rugby anymore and is not being paid he can do what the **** he likes….. beer, fags and pizza diet…. he will make a fortune.

    Now I dont mind piss taking and banter but really an england fan accusing wales of not picking youngster please and then in the light of the england player banned for failling a test due to coke with an entire team refusing to take tests, I am expected to take comments on professionalism. Just stick to the players being shit and things like that.

    TimP
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    TJ who is the consistent kicker you were on about earlier?

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Christ the rugby expert, I expect the consistent kicker is Patterson who has a 90% success rate over the last few saesons and statistically has missed fewer kicks than anyone (although he doesnt do long range so I'll still have Dan Carter please)

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Good to see New Zealand League players in white, isn't it?

    😉

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Good to see New Zealand League players in white, isn't it?

    again and again

    IdleJon
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    kevonakona – Member
    Scotlans have got a couple of 10s hidden away. Young Blair (David, not Alex) and i predict a couple more coming through. Look out for Alex Gillies in a couple of years time. Problem with D. Blair is he is still small, talented but small, and he would need lots of protection.

    And the guy who played 10 against Cardiff on Saturday looked pretty handy – although I was being put to sleep by an awful, turgid match so may have dreamt it.

    TandemJeremy
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    Patterson as aa says. Far and away the most consistant kicker in teh worl the last couple of years

    Its only partly true about him not having the range. There are several kickers in the Scotland team – some of whom have a bigger range so they take the longest kicks but Patterson goes up to 45 m usually.

    Dunno if he will get a place tho

    CaptainFlashheart
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    TJ, for range, just look at 1/2p.

    How he gets such power out of his little frame is beyond me!

    anagallis_arvensis
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    that big lump Lamont is playing pretty well at 13 for LLAnlli at the moment too and so to is Nicki Walker for the Ospreys

    TimP
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    But Patterson inst the best at any position and struggling to get a game – it was an innocent question! He has good kicking stats agreed but he is not 1st choice at the moment anywhere

    IdleJon
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    TimP – Member
    Since he walked out on rugby he has been living on beer and pizza and is now a claimed weight of 11 1/2 st down 3st from his playing weight

    Which is a load of crap as anybody who has seen him around town would know…..

    anagallis_arvensis
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    joking aside about Gavin he was always a player who seemed to keep himself in very good shape. I wonder about him though and all the bulk he put on when he lost his ability to kick through injury, the only way you could loose weight that fast is if it was put on in a shady manner.

    Pigface
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    Must not get involved, must not get involved.

    TandemJeremy
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    Agreed CFH – I think he might be the longest I have seen – outrageous.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    pigface, go on its all harmless pub talk.

    now this was a kick, none of those light balls and kicking tees either, bosh!!!!!

    SMACK

    TimP
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    Guardian article

    this suggests it is pretty easy to put on 3st in muscle, but it does seem an awful lot. Such is the way today though, although Paterson is supposed to be about 11 1/2st

    and I would take issue with the comment of professionalism, as Lipman was also playing for England so I would count out 2 Eng players in that farce. I would be dispointed if he ever puts on the Eng shirt again.

    I would also agree with the Rolling Maul email saying that the 2 previous Kiwi RL players have hardly added to the game. If I saw Wales picking a similar I would not complain, but line them up all afternoon. Sadly MJ will pick who he picks and as an Eng fan I will choose to support his decision (or not) once the result is in 😉

    anagallis_arvensis
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    so what teams would people like to see their teams play, for wales I would like; Byrne, 1/2p, Roberts, Hook, Williams,S Jones, Peel, R Jones, Williams, Thomas, Ian Evans, AW Jones, A Jones, Rees, Jenkins. I expect Cement head and Smiler to pick Roberts and Shanklin (or Davis if shanks is out) in the centres thus giving us no attacking threat, Cooper at 9, Powell at 6 (he's a useful 8 but shite 6) and Charteris at 4.

    Pigface
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    Got to get past Ospreys v leicester before i start thinking about 6 nations. Duw duw mun I can't multitask 🙂

    anagallis_arvensis
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    its clemont this w/e isnt it? Could be a good game or will the Ospreys implode as usual. I tell you even if they manage a loosing BP this w/e the leicester game will be an absolute cracker. Shame Gavins not around to beat up their roughfty tuffty props. Tuquri certainly looks like a good buy for them.

    TandemJeremy
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    Scotland

    Murray
    Ford
    Dickinson

    Hines
    Kellock

    Barclay
    Strokosch
    Beattie

    Cussiter
    Godman

    Grove.
    Evans
    Evans
    Lamont

    Patterson

    Not really sure. There are a few positions were is pretty much a toss up but I am going for pace and flair

    Tight five should hold their own in the set piece and be very mobile around the park/;. Fastest front row on the planet?

    Back Row – a lot of debate about who is best / what is the best combo.

    I can't find a place for White except on the bench to cover all the back 5 positions. I'd like to find a place for him.

    Stand off – I dunno – is Godman the best of a bad bunch?

    3/4s – picked on pace and flair – lets score some tries FFS!

    Unfortunately I think Robinson will go for a more power based game so we will lose some of the speed and flair

    anagallis_arvensis
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    like you say thats a strong pack. White is broken isnt he?

    backhander
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    Vickery is vastly experienced in having his head shoved up his arse in south africa this summer

    Except in the 3rd test (the only one we won) he didn't. Quite the reverse in fact.

    avoid mentioning Hensons handbag

    A young inexperienced player got tackled by an older more experienced player. Hardly news was it.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    A young inexperienced player got tackled by an older more experienced player. Hardly news was it.

    Yes, it was huge news actually.

    Except in the 3rd test (the only one we won) he didn't. Quite the reverse in fact.

    You mean the one after the series was lost and SA made numerous changes to the team

    IdleJon
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    backhander – Member

    Vickery is vastly experienced in having his head shoved up his arse in south africa this summer

    Except in the 3rd test (the only one we won) he didn't. Quite the reverse in fact.

    I think you can safely blame the ref for Vickery's lack of scrummaging ability in the first test. How a player can be penalised for standing up when his feet have been lifted off the ground is beyond me.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    Pigface – Member
    Got to get past Ospreys v leicester before i start thinking about 6 nations. Duw duw mun I can't multitask

    I'm in a quandary there, Pigface….! Half English (Leicestershire, I still have a life membership at Welford and Grace!) and Half Welsh (Swansea).

    As Max would say, Duw it's hard…!

    However, the Welsh side of the family was the real rugby playing side, so I count myself a Welshman for internationals. So, I suppose I'll be supporting the Os for that one!

    I think you can safely blame the ref for Vickery's lack of scrummaging ability in the first test.

    Agreed. The whole front row needs to be addressed in refereeing. Too many teams are getting penalised for being too strong, which can't be right! That said, did you see how good Leics were against Pests the other day? Proof that when refereed properly, the front row still wins games!

    IdleJon
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    The commentators are starting to make a fuss about the ball being put in straight. Obviously with the massively crooked feeds the front row don;t need to strike and can push instead. If refs made sure the ball was straight then the scrum would be a proper contest again. I wonder whether it will be reffed in the 6N?

    TandemJeremy
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    How about progressive binding? The two front rows bind, then the locks join, then the back rows join then the feed and the push. No pushing till the ball goes in the middle

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