I just want to know who Richard Hawley has compromising photos of in 6Music management

Ha, yes.  John Grant was another one. Suddenly around 2014 it was like THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE LEGEND – JOOOOHNNNNN GRANNNNTTTTTTT!!!! about every 8 minutes.  I’d never heard of him before that but oh boy am I familiar with his work (which is perfectly good tbh) now.  Richard Hawley is similar – I don’t hate his music, although it’s not really my taste, but he does get an inordinate amount of hype. He’ll be hosting some shows before long, if he isn’t already

I like Richard Hawley’s music – a lot; John Grant much less so; Hak Baker, not for me.

Why should 6music not give a platform to musicians who, in their opinion, deserve to be showcased – as either an established performer (think Hawley) whose latest release should be publicised or Hak Baker who is a relatively new voice with, potentially, wide appeal?

Can’t please all of the people all of the time.

Why should 6music not give a platform to musicians who, in their opinion, deserve to be showcased – as either an established performer (think Hawley) whose latest release should be publicised or Hak Baker who is a relatively new voice with, potentially, wide appeal?

No problem with giving platforms – it’s the sheer relentlessness of it that almost has the opposite effect for me and makes me never want to hear these artists mentioned again. Or whatever else they bang on about with every second breath

It’s how the industry works is it not, It’s not all about merit, even on 6 music.

But to be fair, John Grant _is_ the greatest mother f**ker (see what I did there)

People are still whining about 6Music being no different to any British radio station over the last fifty years or so, as regards promoting certain artists they feel are worthy of it? As far as John Grant, 6Music was playing music by The Czars when it started in 2002, when John Grant was their singer, and were playing his first solo album ‘The Queen Of Denmark’ in 2010.
Clearly people just weren’t paying enough attention… 😏

The facts are that no other station has introduced me (and countless others) to some outstanding bands/singers:

A few that I can think of immediately…

Hannah Peel – need to see still
Snapped Ankles – missed twice
Preoccupations – missed in Nottingham, missed in Spain (snow cancelled flight), finally saw them at Hare & Hounds (Brum) last year. Mega
Cherry Cheeks – need to see
Bea Bea Sea – need to see
Public Body – v small following but 6 gave them a platform. Saw at the Vic (Brum) last year.
Warmduscher – need to see again, mega again.
Chalk – first heard these two weeks ago and I’m sorting tickets!
Bodega – V good live, new stuff is on point too
Tim Hecker – need to see. Imagine this will be an unnerving experience…
Temples – would see again
Fat Dog – Band of the year already. The most wild gig…(Bodega, Notts). Honestly thought building was going to collapse..

They do have the occasional weird obsession though, I remember a few years back it was Kelis. I mean, she’s great of course and an outstanding singer, but they were going on her music over and over – for months.

Nick Cave is another, clearly a good writer (who has been through a lot of horrible stuff), but IMO he cannot sing, or hold a note. Regardless 6 will go on and on and on about him too.

As for John Grant being discussed ^, pretty sure I like only one song of his (Pale green ghosts?). The rest I have heard is terrible IMO and he too (IMHO) cannot sing, yet 6 always serve up a platform. Obviously got fans!

If it sometimes feels like too much of an effort,why not just give up,buy a nice big cardigan and tune in somewhere else…..Radio2 is —>> that way.. 😆 🤣 😂

6musics daytime playlist is a bit meh.

Sounds way more interesting at night.

id have another radio station (it’s DAB so there’s plenty of bandwidth), playing the same 6music schedule, but with a 12 hour delay, just to let their listeners catch up, without faffing around on the bbc website.

Still no dedicated extreme metal slot on a Sunday 12-2pm, just for the skatepunks?

shame…

Nick Cave is another, clearly a good writer (who has been through a lot of horrible stuff), but IMO he cannot sing, or hold a note. Regardless 6 will go on and on and on about him too.

OK, there’s some reasonable debate on here, all points of view welcomed… except this! Nick Cave is rock royalty, and frankly doesn’t get enough love on most radio.

While we’re on the topic though, 6Music’s love over the last few years for ‘spoken word’/ ‘shouted nonsense’ is really unlistenable. I’m thinking Sports Team (at one point Brant’s twitter feed was just him complaining every time that godawful track came on 6Music), Yard Act and the various imitators of toneless bored sounding person saying/ shouting boring stuff over a backing track

Funny often think 6 music bang on far too much about hip hop and describe people as geniuses when they’re to my mind just waffling about nothing with sampled music in the background – but in fairness I think I just don’t get the genre with the exception of a few interesting artists like Eminem and Kae Tempest.
As for promoting bands, yes sometimes it’s a bit much, but like someone said earlier, 6 Music has introduced me to countless amazing new bands so I am overall very grateful to them for that.
A lot I think is just simple personal preference – for instance if it’s slightly punky and a bit shouty with minimal singing you can guarantee Steve Lurpak will be into it – they’re decent enough bands but he has promoted Idles, Fontaines DC, Yard Act and similar stuff way beyond the what their talent would warrant.

A lot I think is just simple personal preference – for instance if it’s slightly punky and a bit shouty with minimal singing you can guarantee Steve Lurpak will be into it – they’re decent enough bands but he has promoted Idles, Fontaines DC, Yard Act and similar stuff way beyond the what their talent would warrant.

6 music was a brilliant listen on Thursday with a day long exploration of Disintegration by the Cure and associated music from 1989, Idles, Fontaines DC are bloody ace and at least have something to say unlike the utterly anodyne Elbow (can’t stand their music) and similar elevator music, got fontaines on order for their new album and bought tickets for my mates kid and his mate to see them in Glasgow this December along with Idles in November.

HERE’S THE THING!

I hope I’m remembered for that, and weekly lambasting of the awful racist Liz Kershaw.

Funny often think 6 music bang on far too much about hip hop and describe people as geniuses when they’re to my mind just waffling about nothing with sampled music in the background – but in fairness I think I just don’t get the genre with the exception of a few interesting artists like Eminem and Kae Tempest.

Wow, you’re right you really don’t get the genre!

brant
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HERE’S THE THING!

I hope I’m remembered for that, and weekly lambasting of the awful racist Liz Kershaw.

Yup, you are! I followed you for a while on Twitter and there was a spell where your only tweets were one or tother 😉

I’m going to have to request money back from the BBC, they’ve got Nick Grimshaw in for Lauren this morning!

That’s got to be a human rights violation or something!

I left BBC 1 around when he started there!

Listening this morning while walking the dog, I do think Nick Grimshaw’s not quite the right type of presenter for 6Music – a bit too Radio 1ish, chattering about his dinner party at the weekend etc. He’s fairly inoffensive though, and the music was beyond reproach – it being Skank Holiday Monday n ting.

When I heard Grimshaw, I pulled over. Hooked the phone to the van and played the jaguar skills mix on BBC sounds. Job jobbed.

one of my colleagues always wants Absolute Radio, which is hilariously bad. A few decent tracks on every now and again, but their “no repeat guarantee” doesn’t quite have the same effect if the next day is exactly the same.

Yup. Just absolutely awful. Music for people with zero interest in music. I unfortunately am subjected to it every day.

Still, could be ‘Grimmy’…

Never stop long enough to judge the music choices, but I just cannot bear Tom Ravenscroft’s voice. He sounds so utterly insincere and mannered.

The music so far on TMM 1.

I do tend to listen to catch up shows on Radio Caroline but I’m rarely disappointed when I dip into TMM1