Jeez, £49.99. I'm going to Froogle that to see if anyone can match it online!

What have people from Finland got to do with building your bike?

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£49.99 is RRP as foxyrider says. had to go to page 4 on Froogle to match it. Discountbicycles (haha! reduced from £59.99 apparently!!)

Are you telling me there are actual shops you can go in to buy this stuff? Good lord whatever next

Hve you not got about 80 bikes you could have knicked one off while the CRC one turned up?

yep only yesterday told the little old lady in post office across the road to put her pint of milk where the sun don't shine…if i wait until tesco deliver on friday i can get 2 litres for the price she wanted

RRP is £50 for a Deore mech? No offence but if I lost my job I'd have to stop riding if this is the case.

I dont want to see anyone out of a job (bikeshops etc) but I dont believe in that pricing.

Riding a bike really is becoming a richmans sport. Its ridiculous. Prices are going up on everything associated and I dont beleive £80 shorts offer significant advantages for example.

Im sure there will be people complaining its not true on here but I bet average margins in bikeshops arent 20%. I bet they are higher.

no you wouldn't. you would just have to learn to ride the same bike for longer than a couple of months instead of changing it for another and curb your desire for the next must-have shiny thing you see on a MTB website

RRP doesnt mean the distributor/manufacturer gets 100% of that price. Its a recommended retailer price. I used to work in retail- I know how it works.

Totally agree but kit wears out with the British slop.

Agree there as well. I dont and wont. The only thing I buy new are wear and tear (bike) items. I couldnt afford to ride if I bought all my kit in bikeshops.

My neighbour asked me to help him ressurect a very nice Orange P7, too nice to buy utter crap for and we have just hit £160 as it needed a new drivetrain, and a few other bits and bobs, bike is well worth spending that ammount on, but trying to find him decent kit for not much is difficult, and then you can get really massive bargains like a Deore chainset for £50 or and FSA one with external BB for £40.

The the ripoff things seem to be jocky wheels at £8 for cheapo ones, cheapo 9 speed cassette at £20, tyres seem a stupid price too at up to £35 a pop.

I think drivetrain stuff has got too expensive now, I can only afford to run deore level myself these days, its £50 just for entry level chain cassette and middle ring.

I remember buying my Chris King wheels years ago from a place in Scotland and a few competitors (bikeshops) complained to the distributor about this shops pricing and he told me off the record he'd been told in no uncertain terms to raise his prices or have no more stuff from them.

So you wanted a mech today to finish a build. You therefore wanted one right away.

You then want a shop who has staff to pay, rent to pay, insurance to pay, electricity to pay, water and sewerge rates to pay, have varied and hopefully interesting stock and be able to answer questions you may ask of them to sell a margin generating item for the same price or near to the same price as CRC (or other web retailers) who admittedly have all these bills and huge computer resources to finance BUT enormous buying power and the ability to sell items at BELOW normal trade levels.

Shops have a trade price – this covers the item itself. The gap between retail and trade is the bit that allows people to pay all the bills and if they are lucky and good hopefully walk home at night knowing they have made a profit rather than just supply goods to people who want everything NOW for nothing.

The big retailers do a great job of bringing goods to the market for not much money to be fair. Perhaps you want an industry of just web retailers? Is it all about price? Do you always want to wait for a postie?

Begrudging a man a living from a shop he has toiled to build – and making him come close to a price he cannot compete with is effectively the same as your employer asking you to work for free for a day cause he knows with a bit of digging he can save your wage by employing someone else. Not fair really.

Recently i have been asked to discount labour bills in the shop. I ask them if they were to be asked to work for less money would they? Invariably the answer is no.

The same can be said of goods. Should a retailer just have to give away margin on a good and service that is not the same? Not really.

I find by treating people fairly, generating relationships and being honest with people then things kind of work out. If people come in quoting prices off the web then its usually a case of asking them if they can 'try the shoes on through the web' or 'check compatibility of x with y' on a computer screen.

If you know what you need and its purely a price thing then fine – the www is for you.

Incoherent rambling mode off! Apologies for lack of synthesis and trailling off the point. Just thought an open slagging of Woodrups (who i dont know) is a bit unfair.

"Then your Deore mech will last ages"

Assuming you don't smash it into something, requiring a new mech and hanger.

What Hora said before he edited his post:

Sounds about right – King stuff has always had a big markup from trade to RRP. It's low volume stuff, the profit's got to be made somewhere if there's fewer sales for it to come from.