i like all the wrong side of the road stuff that they do when the rest of us just wait in line.
didnt know it was allowed when it snows.

Can we please rename this place Whiningabout4x4sinthesnowtrackworld instead?

i've had the opposite, driving over the snake pass before christmas i was constantly held up by timid drivers in 4x4s driving too slowly.

in a 2wd car they need to understand that momentum is my friend and when they stop on an uphill corner or mince downhill i'm going to get stuck or smash into the back of them

but i've had far more trouble with people in normal cars so not going to tar them all with the same brush

basically eberybody on the road is shit except me

Dont get me started on the **** retards that think its acceptable to sit on your bumper on a white road. **** imbeciles – they dont even take the hint when you stop to let them passed – they just **** sit there with a dumb look on their fat **** faces.

But I thought you…

Pigface, did your wife give you a knock back last night then, or is it just jealousy that you do not own a 4×4?

WRONG

thatcher's fault innit

The peace of mind that I experience whilst travelling around safely in my 4×4 allows me the space to reflect on the joys of owning what some are clearly envious of, of slowly killing polar bears, of watching less successful people struggle and of driving 1 metre from the back of nervous looking people who can't wait to get home and fill the internets with tales of evil Landrovers.

Marvelous.

instead of all this:

4×4 drivers = f**kwits shocker !!
non 4×4 drivers = f**kwits shocker !!
BMW drivers = f**kwits shocker !!
audi drivers = f**kwits shocker !!
RWD drivers = f**kwits shocker !!
young drivers = f**kwits shocker !!
old drivers = f**kwits shocker !!
red car drivers = f**kwits shocker !!
blue car drivers = f**kwits shocker !!

can we agree to just settle on:

*some* people = f**kwits
others, not so much…

4×4 means more braking and cornering grip, does it?

me not them molgrips

I love the 4×4 haters, here are a few good reasons why i drive a navara

1. i can go biking get the bike dirty as **** and chuck it straight in the back without worrying about getting car dirty

2. in the summer i go camping alot and get to leave most of gear in car all summer to just get in and go, not constantly packing and unpacking.

3. when the weather is shite like now I get to take the back lanes home and leave the main routes clear for all the 2wheel drivers(and still beat them there)

4 If your really knew what you were talking about you would realise my diesel navara is far more fuel efficient than most 2ltr rep mobiles so it actually does some good too.

i'd like to see THOSE figures 😯

I drive a all wheel drive car. Love the way it pulls into and around roundabouts and it offers great traction when you use the throttle and steering calmly. Blame the driver, not the car.

Most 2ltr rep mobiles are diesels now and get 45 plus per gallon

You must have a specially special noncerama
Economy ~ manufacturers figures
Urban 23.9 mpg
Extra Urban 32.8 mpg
Combined 28.8 mpg

The Primera had rubbish fuel economy even when it was new, so I don't really think that its hard to better it.

Me to mcboo. Seems some people think that 4X4 drive gives you 4X4 stopping. You still have to drive well, hit the brakes in a 4X4 and your suddenly in control of a two ton sledge.
I learnt alot about driving 4X4s in the Army, probably learnt a bit more when the instructors weren't watching 😛 and I learnt some great tips when I did a basic course so I could drive my company 4X4 in a certain companies sites

i also did 4×4 course – dont own a 4×4 but alot of what you learn RE traction and slowing down off road applies even in your 2WD FWD car …

You still have to drive well, hit the brakes in a 4X4 and your suddenly NOT in control of a two ton sledge.

Been teaching my little girl how to drive the Landrover on an old dissused airfield (with permision) we can push it to the limit safely. I'm hoping she will learn what you can and can't do in a 4X4, and not be either over cautious or take risks.
Seen some people who I must assume are lucky idiots. Tanking up to roundabouts on snow and ice assuming they won't have to stop seems a common one.

4×4 problems? Round here, theyre all pulling people out of ditches, drifts, etc. OK, the chelsea tractor lot are a pain, but don't give the Defender crew a bad rap.

saw something about a big diesel engine being more fuel efficient than a 2L petrol. That may be correct if you have decent fuel injector. For example, audi diesel engines are leagues more fuel efficient than a toyota prius, because they put some decent dielectric ceramics in. I think this is a great bit of info, great for shooting down the Prius lobby!