Yeah Daz… it’s everybody else’s fault apart from the sainted Jeremy, isn’t it?

He lost an election against a hopeless May during peak Corbyn and since then it’s been the law of diminishing returns as he becomes even less appealing with his endless dithering and inaction, even against this shambolic government

The centrist/blairite scum/whatever rump of the party is completely excluded from the clique around the leader. As are even most of his disciples So what exactly do you expect them to do?

I’m not going to call them tories, but you can see why some come to that conclusion when they do everything in their power to support them.

That doesn’t sound at all like the paranoid, bunker mentality constantly used to describe the Corbyn clique, does it?

Anyone who fails to swear allegiance in blood to St Jeremy and not see him as some kind of anointed deity is immediately defined as ‘the enemy’ and then treated with open hostility.

That’s just a comic strip view of reality. I see more poison coming from the middle ground actually than a few passionate supporters who’s voices are constantly marginalised.

How many times have we heard Corbyn is finished etc? Repetition confuses fact and fantasy.

I see so much stuff on here that has been drawn from Twitter and the papers (Guardian’s opinion columns a good example) and passed off as their own opinion…

just give us some ‘who, when and where’

John MacDonnell, May 2003, London:

“It’s about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table.”

John_McDonnell, now, Hayes, Middlesex:

“In his study at Hayes, McDonnell has a plaque presented to him by Gerry Kelly dedicated to the “H-Block Martyrs 1981″, referring to those who died during the 1981 Irish hunger strike.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McDonnell

The Peoples Vote campaign have hundreds of thousands of politically motivated people attend each march and the chants of “Where’s Jeremy Corbyn” were ever present. Has Jeremy had 100 000’s attend one of his jamboree’s?

Given that Dianne Abbot needed police protection at the March and looked visibly terrified I can’t say I blame him for staying well away. As useless as he is I don’t think lynching is the answer.

Honestly your wife is this shallow?

No, she’s way more intelligent and thoughtful than i’ll ever be but it’s an instinctive gut reaction to seeing a  manky scarecrow masquerading as a contender for PM.

What about Bojo’s hair?

He can pull it off because he at least looks like he’s had a wash, is  superficially charming and always wears nice clothes, albeit  (allegedly deliberately) ill fitting.

What about Bojo’s hair? JC looks smarter than Bojo 90% of the time.

True, but this is because this is a cartoonish caricature that Johnson has spent decades constructing and honing. It’s ridiculously contrived but it serves him well as it disguises his true personality and intentions. As Eddie Meir accurately pointed out, he’s ‘a nasty piece of work’, a self-serving narcissist who gets away with all kinds of shit by people sayin ‘oh, that’s; just Boris’

Everyone, including journalists simply refer to him as ‘Boris’. That alone is probably worth 5 points in the polls

I wonder what the balance is betwene the number of people saying ‘I woud vote labour if it wasn’t for Corbyn being leader’ and the number of people saying @I would vote Tory if it wasn’t fro Boris’?

While I’m sure its more people on the labour half, I think Boris does put lots of normal, politically ambivalent, people off the tories.

While I’m sure its more people on the labour half, I think Boris does put lots of normal, politically ambivalent, people off the tories.

I don’t think it’s as many as it should be or you’d think….
Most of those I’d guess were ambivalent on party are vocal on Brexit … his lying doesn’t even seem to bother them…???
I’ve bothered to challenge some and most just say “…but it could be true”….

In fairness, Laura has been in the wind for a bit

Ha! Just thought of another rather difficult position lyingblowhard is in…

To set a GE off, he has to approach the Queen and dissolve parliament..

I bet she’s itching to see the lying gonk stand once again and lie to her face…

Imagine it for a moment:

LBH: errr, wobble fubble erm, flud fludding wobble..

HMQ: what are you mumbling about now LBH? Speak up and clearly so I can understand a single word you are saying For Gods Sake!

LBH: dissolve flud, wobble, dribble, fart, flud…

HMQ: I don’t believe you, come back when you can tell the truth …

LBH: flud, dibble, flib, fubbber, fart…

🤷‍♂️🤪😡

Not everyone else’s, just those who actively do everything they can to prevent him winning, and sadly there are many in the PLP who are doing just that. Last week a lot of them voted for Boris’s deal.

Hang on voting for the deal is what Corbyn wanted/needed because he needs Brexit behind us just as Boris does. The reason they could vote for the deal is because he made it clear there would be no career repercussions because he needed then to do it.

I’m not saying COrbyn has won over the PLP at all but on this issue they are helping him not hindering him.

I’ve no doubt they’ll vote against having an election when Corbyn directs them to do the opposite.

It’s less clear cut, but probably the same argument applies since the opposition want to delay an election for as long as possible.

It’s like the last US election, the two front runners are the only candidates who could even feasibly lose to someone as unelectable as their opposition.

The Polls will be wrong in the same way they were in 2017, because in theory lots of people will vote for LD, Green, Brex etc, but when it comes to marking the box they know that voting for a party that can’t win, gives a vote for the party they least want that can.

If Labour pulled a quick switcharoo and appointed a more pro-EU, Centrist Leader, they’d walk it. Yeah every card carrying Socialist will be wailing about ‘Red Tories’ and all that bullshit, but they ain’t going to vote for Boris, Farage or Swinson in protest because they’re even more ‘Tory’.

The Tories can’t do that, if they go more central they’ll lose to Brex party, if they go more right they’ll lose to the LD. They’re supposed to be the party of business and economics, but they’re really crap at that, they’re the party of Little Britain.

The LDs will claw back their post-coalition loses, but if we don’t get a clear majority (we won’t) they who do they work with? Labour? Labour has been sticking the boot into them for months very publicly, they’re ideologically opposed to the Tories now and well, they will remember what happened last time.

Labour (well most of them) and the LDs are right, there’s not much to gain from a GE at the moment, they should have ended this shit with a VONC by now. I’d guess Labour aren’t willing to accept other ideologies dilute the purity of their beliefs to work with the LDs and SNP.

Does Jeremy have an equally alliterative name? No. Instead, all the gardening jibes stick, and he is easily confused with Bernard Cribbins.

He’ll never be half the man Cribbins is and I’ll thank you never to associate them in that way again please.

I live in a hardcore Labour constituency. It’s been Labour for as long as they’ve existed, and it will most likely be Labour after an election (though this is the first time I’ve had any doubt…)

The local Facebook groups are venomous when it comes to Corbyn. As far as they’re concerned, he’s an antisemitic, terrorist sympathising, Marxist, and that’s that.

Regardless of his capability, he’s damaged goods when it comes to politics. The media killed him off a long time ago.

For anyone with young kids Bernard Cribbins reading Winnie the Pooh is off the charts good, his Wombles is also good.

Old Jack’s Boat is the nuggets too.

I can’t believe he’s 90, bless ‘im.

114 Jackanory appearances and I bet he never once mentioned Bobby Sands.

114 Jackanory appearances and I bet he never once mentioned Bobby Sands.

Well, there was that time when Tufty discovered that Willie Weasel was locked in his mum’s shed, smeared in his own shit, refusing to go to the ice cream van…….

I like to watch the clip of him (Cribbins, not Corbyn) on Buzzcocks, he’s so wonderfully self-aware, warm and just stupidly funny.

Will it really be a 2019 GE?

what if the EU offer a 6 month extension? Im not sure that we will sort anything in 3 months, especially with Xmas in the middle

Lots of poeple, including electoral commision saying 12th December very difficult to acheive for a host of reasons. Nothing is going to get done in parliment till election, so seems to me that shutting up shop asap and election on 5th makes sense.