It sure as hell won’t be Scotland, most of us voted SNP to keep the **** out.

Fat lot of good it does though. Almost an entire country doesn’t want a conservative government, but gets it anyway because that’s what the neighbours voted for. ****.

What’s the logic of the pound climbing against the Euro if we’re definitely heading for Brexit?

Majority government, or more correctly a non hung parliament. It would have climbed regardless of the party that got a majority . A hung parliament is uncertainty, where as now business at least knows what direction we are now headed.

What’s the logic of the pound climbing against the Euro if we’re definitely heading for Brexit?

Remember all those billionaires that Jeremy Corbyn was going to tax, and all those companies that he was going to nationalize?

Well now they can invest in the UK.

But we had Corbyn in 2017

In the seats where Brexit mattered, Labour were stuffed, I think there should have been a programme much earlier to start to make folk realise why it’s never going to be a good thing. But that never happened as the Labour leadership also wants Brexit. and the remain seats just don’t trust Corbyn at his word. I think in 2017 he was still a newish and untried commindity. This time around folk have had a chance to get to know him and the folk around him, and frankly they mostly don’t like what they see. Labour may be rescued by a new Leader, but the ex-commies behind the throne aren’t going to give up power, so it’ll be more of the same.

I can’t see Labour making any grounds up in the next election either if they stick with that.

I think Boris’s ‘Get Brexit Done’ slogan hit the right note with many. Labour underestimated how fed up of Brexit people were. Unfortunately they have voted for a pretty horrific form of Brexit just because people have got ‘bored’ with it.

Was interesting to hear on the BBC the type of leader who Boris would fear most would be Jess Phillips.

Excellent news to wake up to. Perhaps we can now leave the EU (there was a referendum, remember) and devote some parliamentary time to dealing with other matters that have been neglected over the last four years.

Woke up this morning feeling really nauseous and it’s not the norovirus or a miraculous conception.

“The People’s Government” as a victory slogan.

Makes me feel slightly queasy for a number of reasons.

I know this will not sit easy with most here; and I don`t say it to stoke a reaction. But this shit storm of a situation with a Tory majority is all a result of the Remoaners whinging since the referendum.
Only the Torys were clear they would deliver Brexit.

The Brexit party were/are simply a protest vote. But Labour and Lib Dems were deluded in their belief that the country wanted another vote on Brexit; they don`t – they just want it done to move on from the constant divisive rhetoric spewing from the spoilt mouths of the Remoaners, and the damaging results from the indecisiveness to our economy.

Hopefully Brexit will be done and dusted soon; and Labour reconnect with the working class majority in this country and provide a real opposition. Shit situation!

Nah, it’s not Remoaners. It’s a decades long campaign of anti EU blaming or scapegoating.

Johnson’s speech:

now a one-nation party, representing everyone from Kensington to Clwyd South, from Surrey Heath to Sedgefield.

You missed a bit. Or two.

So bear with me;  I’d rather have stayed in Europe myself but some people are treated this that they’d rather top themselves than remain in Boris UK aka “we’re doomed” “. Shit hits fan”

Can someone write in a short concise non political paragraph of as few words as possible why the UK is apparently now doomed to failure?

And what’s the impact of that paragraph on the average UK person?

Well, we now know how futile a second Brexit referendum would have been. Would’ve lost that one by a bucketload too.

Looking at the Brexit Party vote, there is capacity for Labour to bounce back more strongly than usual once that issue has been settled. Perhaps once the recession is biting properly and folks who voted for this are wondering what the hell is going on.

And what’s the impact of that paragraph on the average UK person?

It is not doomed to failure but for the average UK person it won’t be better. It will be like the last 9 years for the average person just a bit worse;

Stagnating wages
Benefit issues
NHS getting worse
No noticeable difference from less immigrants, not that there probably will be less

Well that’s that then, I couldn’t watch, listen or read anything after the exit pole sank in. And we’ve still got Whittaker in Calder valley.
Irrespective we’ve got to try to help those who are struggling, do our best to stop any rolling back of environmental, social and workplace legislation, be an open community and be nice to folk. I guess we won’t be looking at electoral reform or an examination of the responsibility of the press for a while. I’m going to try to be nice to everyone. And consider moving home north of the border.

Can someone write in a short concise non political paragraph of as few words as possible why the UK is apparently now doomed to failure?

The SNP now have clear control of Scotland and will now exert all force in trying to leave the UK.

Well that’s that then, I couldn’t watch, listen or read anything after the exit pole sank in. And we’ve still got Whittaker in Calder valley.
Irrespective we’ve got to try to help those who are struggling, do our best to stop any rolling back of environmental, social and workplace legislation, be an open community and be nice to folk. I guess we won’t be looking at electoral reform or an examination of the responsibility of the press for a while. I’m going to try to be nice to everyone. And consider moving home north of the border.

I’m afraid I have always been of your mindset but have, reluctantly, moved on.

If the people of Calder Valley want Tory and Brexit and it results in massive investment in health and social care then I will be happy for them.

If, as I suspect, we will see a worsening of life here then I will not be putting myself out to help the people who voted for it; from today forward I intend to follow their lead and look after number one, sod everyone else.

from today forward I intend to follow their lead and look after number one, sod everyone else.

Hard though it is, we need to go the other way. We now need compassion more than ever.

Or you could just get on with, work, play, cycle and look after your family whilst being as philanthropic as you can without carrying a depression around in your head that you can have little impact upon.

The one thing about these threads I find very sad is how angry or depressed people get over politics, many of which they cannot influence. I can imagine how shit my life would be if I went around beating myself around the head mentally about that for years.

It’s done, move on and make the best of what we have around us.

Best thing I’ve read this morning. Well said Kryton. Look after yourself and your friends and family. Be nice to other people. Try do do things that will help the planet. Try not to spit bile and turn purple over events that you have no influence over.

The language and hate from some on this thread is extraordinary.