Penfold is on, saying this is like the Berlin Wall coming down…

Its not a “national vote” for Brexit, it’s an English vote for Brexit and a clear independence vote for Scotland and EU membership.

Edukator – that was what quite a few different Germans, French and Dutch folk said to me

Mark Francois is Binners and I claim my £5!

Anyone see him on TV? He even said peoples front of Judea lol

One sitting comfortably in the European social democratic tradition and a thoughtful considered man.

Dude, stop with this. As I’ve shown before – he’s further left than the Scandi countries. It’s wilful ignorance to carry on pretending this isn’t the case.

Not that it matters – whether you are right or not doesn’t matter – it’s about optics! Because the left care about ideology and not optics, we’ve ended up here – along with a split remain vote.

Had the remain vote not been split and/or apathetic we’d have not lost this hard. Corbyn is to blame for that.

I would expect the Tories to be pro-indyref2 as would increase their majority even further.

No sure if that is the right way forward if you are a Tory.

Cos they’re being conned.

They are being distracted. The promise of certainty over brexit is more important to them than how utterly unappealing they are

I don’t think I’m going to be able to leave the country, my folks are getting older and I need to be around. Still, with the NHS being run by Tories they probably won’t last long.

The blame lies with labour and they will not learn and move on if the left does not accept that.

No I agree. Labour was poor. But you cannot claim that there weren’t a whole string of problems boxing Corbyn in. As I said all along, It would have taken an outstanding political operator to navigate all that if it was even possible.

Tory party would have stayed being the nasty party

They did. Rees mogg, gove, Johnson’s dad and Bojo. No one likes them no one trusts them but they voted for them. Explain that.

Rayban – actually you were proven wrong on Scandinavia but I lost the will to argue with you. Tax rates, welfare state rates, educational spending, public ownership etc etc

Nothing in labours manifesto is hard left at all and would be perfectly normal in most of europe.

Newcastle central … the same result again and almost the same as that in 2017.

She now can have a happy ride to retirement for sure.

Labour again in Sunderland albeit reduce majority.

Are any of you Corbynites going to actually voice a defence of your messiah?

Or are you just going to abuse those of us pointing out the obvious?

Off you go…

Do let us know your vision of our bright socialist future….

Edukator – that was what quite a few different Germans, French and Dutch folk said to me

OK, I believe you. Where did you meet them? Because the last centrist French people I chatted with (while riding VTTs in SWFrance) who knew of him asked me if he was realy going to take over companies by force and also asked what was going on in England with the only options being extreme socialism or extreme capitalism. I could only aswer that yes he was and that was true.

Even the fairly centrist TV channels point to Corbyns more extreme socialist policies with surprise when protraying the stakes of the election.

Blyth Valley … gone to Conservative … o oh …

Are any of you Corbynites going to actually voice a defence of your messiah?

Yes, Daz is. It’s all Brexit, not Corbyn and his Communist advisors… and that theme will be stuck to for the next five years. The next election needs to be lost before the record stops.

See that’s the problem with you momentum lot – call anyone who doesn’t support Corbyn a neo liberal as if it’s a dirty word.

It’s like a legion of Ernst Thalmanns.

They’ll be calling you Social Fascists next Binners. You’re the enemy of the true believers now, it’s people like you that caused Comrade Corbynichovs loss.

Blyth Valley bloody hell

Wow. I think I’ll go to bed now. Not even that close.

Putting up a candidate called ‘Dungworth’ can’t have helped though.

Although the results have yet to be released, if the exit polls are as accurate as they have been previously, then I think the Labour Party are the issue:

the Labour policies seemed totally unachievable and a reminder of the bad old days of the 70’s. Renationalisation of some industries might be acceptable, but the rhetoric put out by Corbyn was way off-tune. Coupled with Corbyn’s complete failure to be a convincing PM candidate, Labour weren’t an appealing opposition party, something we needed.

In addition, Brexit fatigue meant people wanted an end, one way or another. Labour didn’t offer that.

I would like to have seen a sensible middle ground, but there wasn’t one on offer.

All IMHO…

Let’s see what tomorrow brings and go for a ride!

Blythe Valley has a 10% swing ffs

Absolutely staggering that result in Blyth