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  • 2019 General Election
  • richardkennerley
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    How wrong was the exit poll last time?

    jeffl
    Full Member

    Stanley Johnson on Channel 4 is possibly madder than Boris.

    athgray
    Free Member

    As I left the house tonight to head to the polling station, my 5 year old daughter looked at me and pleaded for me to vote for a new Prime Minister. I asked her why, she sorrowfully said she didn’t like Boris. Sadly looks like she will need cheering up in the morning.

    molgrips
    Free Member

    Yeah – Scottish people aren’t any cleverer than the English – they just have an alternative centrist party.

    nick1962
    Free Member

    I think a lot of people are about to find out what neoliberalism really means. It’ll still be seismic, tbh.

    Blame Labour’s useless leadership?

    If the exit polls are right then I suggest that this conservative majority is down to parliament blocking May’s comparatively moderate Brexit deal and has played right into the hands of the extreme Brexiteers.Parliament obstructed the referendum result and the public have responded.Unfortunately I fear we are all now well and truly screwed.

    molgrips
    Free Member

    Blame Labour’s useless leadership?

    The membership started this. I don’t blame Corbyn alone.

    Flaperon
    Full Member

    Unless you like watching people struggle.

    Shirley if someone votes Tory, then gets screwed over by them, it’s entirely their own fault and we’re more than entitled to point and laugh.

    northernsoul
    Full Member

    Lights, bike, ride, forget (for a bit) 😢

    tjagain
    Full Member

    If the result is true its also an indictment of our political system and our media.

    llama
    Full Member

    Yes John, the good thing about sitting on the fence is that you can pretend it doesn’t matter. ****.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    In 5 years’ time things will be so bad that there’ll be a swing back left.

    The Tories have at least 10 years now. The boundaries will be redrawn. They’ll have a bill so that they can choose the timing of the next general election. They’ll stack the deck in ways we haven’t even thought about yet. Anyone still thinking this election was just about the next 5 years need a dose of realism.

    P-Jay
    Free Member

    Don’t pin all this on Corbyn. It’s way more complicated than that. I know you’re pissed off, but really. This whole thing goes back to Thatcher via Blair. Corbyn was the choice of the party because it wants a leftist agenda. So much led us to where we are now, not just Corbyn.

    I’m sorry Molegrips but it’s not, he’s give the most repugnant PM since a Thatcher a majority not seen since she was in power.

    Labour need a Blair moment, if they wheel out another hardcore socialist they’ll just be less popular.

    molgrips
    Free Member

    Shirley if someone votes Tory, then gets screwed over by them, it’s entirely their own fault and we’re more than entitled to point and laugh.

    Sure but the people who’ll get screwed over might’ve voted Labour or not voted at all because they haven’t got an address. We didn’t all vote Tory. Please remember that.

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    Classic Seumas.

    Long game, comrades, long game…

    Klunk
    Free Member

    i feel sick

    eskay
    Full Member

    They have based the exit poll results on asking 24K people in several hundred constituencies and extrapolated to 30+ million votes – that is some weak ass data and incredibly poor resolution. If I presented that at work I would be laughed out of the meeting.

    (clutching at straws….)

    cromolyolly
    Free Member

    but it’s not, he’s give the most repugnant PM since a Thatcher a majority not seen since she was in power

    I suspect if the labour leaving seats are the ones that have gone conservative, it’ll mean it wouldn’t matter who led labour or what they said. It will be down to leave.

    piha
    Free Member

    Binners, I t’s hard to argue with that! Well said.

    molgrips
    Free Member

    I’m sorry Molegrips but it’s not, he’s give the most repugnant PM since a Thatcher a majority not seen since she was in power.

    HE did what he was elected leader to do. He couldn’t run for leader on a leftist platform then suddenly change his mind to be centrist could he?

    This isn’t a boxing match, it’s about much more than the two leaders.

    Markie
    Free Member

    Lol at corbynite line that it was Brexit. No. Momentum and JC have given us hard Brexit Boris for at least 5 years.

    squirrelking
    Free Member

    hardcore socialist

    That wants to set tax at levels not seen since… …the Tories?

    Cheers Corbynites! You utter utter bunch of ****ing ****s!

    This is all on you, you sixth form, placard waving bell-ends!

    Go **** yourself.

    Don’t engage.

    Don’t change your mind

    Giving in won’t help in the long term. If you’ve said no, don’t change your mind and say yes just to end the tantrum.

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/temper-tantrums/

    raybanwomble
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    Agree with Binners, we in the UK do not have a culture of left wing politics of the Corbyn variety. Along with the many more personal reasons to dislike the man and his inner circle, this made this result all but pretty predictable – I said months and months ago that the labour leadership and their dithering would cause a massive backlash.

    Can’t say we didn’t **** tell you.

    1000 year Tory Reich it is!

    molgrips
    Free Member

    No it was Brexit. Corbyn was trapped on the fence and that cost him. Victim of circumstance, because he made himself into the man who had to respect democracy. Blair won because he was messianic, he did what he wanted to do. Corbyn was never like that and couldn’t have been.

    the labour leadership and their dithering

    It wasn’t dithering.

    nick1962
    Free Member

    Binners, I t’s hard to argue with that!

    Not that hard to argue with binners “logic”.
    If Labour had come out for remain, as most on here have been asking for, the result would have been different? It would. Con majority would have been bigger.
    IF the exit poll is right then Leave voters have come out in force and demonstrated that remainers are in the minority again.
    Like others I hope the exit polls are wrong.I fear we will be disappointed.

    rone
    Full Member

    No it was Brexit. Corbyn was trapped on the fence and that cost him. Victim of circumstance, because he made himself into the man who had to respect democracy.

    Absolutely.

    Electorate wants Brexit. The rest never got behind Corbyn enough to fight it.

    irc
    Free Member

    Douglas Alexander on BBC Scotland.

    “Corbynism has been tested to destruction”

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    Shirley if someone votes Tory, then gets screwed over by them, it’s entirely their own fault and we’re more than entitled to point and laugh.

    Hard to point and laugh when we are getting screwed too.

    jimdubleyou
    Full Member

    In theory, you can still live and work in Ireland after Brexit…

    ransos
    Free Member

    Still hanging on for the socialist revolution in 5 years time then you total ****ing morons?

    no-one thought you were in favour of socialism.

    taxi25
    Free Member

    If the exit polls are right then I suggest that this conservative majority is down to parliament blocking May’s comparatively moderate Brexit deal and has played right into the hands of the extreme Brexiteers.Parliament obstructed the referendum result and the public have responded.

    My feelings exactly. I wrote to my MP despite being a remain voter, asking her to back May’s deal because I felt if it didn’t go through eventually something worse would. Looks like thats going to happen and she’ll probably be out of a job 🙁

    rone
    Full Member

    I don’t care – but why does the pound start rising when we’re on our way to Brexit?

    raybanwomble
    Free Member

    No it was Brexit. Corbyn was trapped on the fence and that cost him. Victim of circumstance, because he made himself into the man who had to respect democracy. Blair won because he was messianic, he did what he wanted to do. Corbyn was never like that and couldn’t have been.

    It wasn’t Brexit.

    It’s that people were more worried by Corbyn than Brexit.

    Ya’ll true believers keep telling yourself that though.

    mboy
    Free Member

    I need a STIFF drink!

    Can someone pass the bottle of bleach please…

    batfink
    Free Member

    Sigh, I agree with Binners

    Sydney is literally on fire…. and I’d still rather be here.

    torsoinalake
    Free Member

    If nothing else at least these **** will now have to own the Brexit shitshow that is coming.

    eskay
    Full Member

    So, looking into this data a little more (according to the BBC news feed).

    They have asked 23,790 people at 144 polling stations.

    The reality is there are 650 seats and 30 odd million voters, how the hell can you take the exit poll seriously??

    They have taken the word of the very few people from each polling station who were prepared to tell them who they voted for. That is 165 people at each of the exit polls they surveyed. That is a very small sample and it is very easy to skew the result based on such a small sample size.

    Rockape63
    Free Member

    Lol at the socialist echo dome imploding! 😂

    oldnpastit
    Full Member

    Corbyn has failed for much the same reasons that Michael Foot, a generation ago, failed. Nothing to do with Brexit.

    It only took Neil Kinnock a decade to sort out the Labour party and get it to the point where Blair could win.

    Get ready for 2035!

    molgrips
    Free Member

    I need out.

    Nothing to do with Brexit.

    Give over.

    rone
    Full Member

    It wasn’t Brexit.

    And yet that’s all the largest party is offering….

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