Lineout wasnt too bad was it? Considering how good the SA lineout is. Warburton was excellent as was Faletau, Lydiate quiet

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AA I know , neither team were favoured by the ref, I don’t think RUGBY was favoured by the git.

Good match (W v SA). On balance better team one, but Wales played well. Shame about injuries especially JD who had made those two breaks. Hibbard was good as was Warburton.

The most annoying things about the ref was be sounded like a French Loius Walsh. But I thought he was ok and consistent as the commentators said. Good for him for sending the props off as most refs would have bottled it esp as the bokka had only just come on.

Not sue about the news scrum laws though. And so much feeding and foot up. Still an inconsistent farce IMO.

Watched 30m of England before supper! Left it at that, amazed that England hit some balls at pace!!!!

How can it have been god to send both props off? Especially when that happening massively favoured the decimated wales scrum… He’s an arse, I also thought he changed the way he whistled the breakdown towards the end of the game. He was much less quick to ping the ball carrier. His interpretation of the breakdown kills the game.

Great ABlack try, what an offload!

Davies needs boob surgery, could miss six nations! Bollocks. Adam to miss at least next game. Williams should be ok.

Lancaster talks as much crap as JJ 🙄

Not sure what duckman will say is the official case but it seems the decision is ultimately with the referee although putting forward suggestions seems to be open to anyone.

The increased use of the video ref for foul play and more phases towards scoring actually seems to make players appeal more as they know the ref is entitled (although not obliged) to check more stuff nowadays. There does seem to be many more players appealing to the ref.

JDV actually uses this very well and has consistently captained in this way, having a word to the refs every now and again saying could you please check this that or the other.

I think though at the end of the day it is up to the ref what he want to do with the information. What seems to be happening is the refs now can look at the big screen when replays are put up so they make the judgement for themselves pretty much regardless of the video refs opinion a la kiwi thug block where the ref didn’t let the video ref finish and had already made his own mind up.

Maybe he trusted the South Africans more?

I like the idea of the players giving the ref a hand. PO’C and BO’D have always been happy to point stuff out that the ref might be missing. 😀

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But I do understand that one, how on earth does a player travel that far across the touch area, unopposed and ‘forget’ to dot the ball down until his momentum carries him across into touch.

Hopefully (although I base this on helpless optimism, and certainly not the almost certain reality) we won’t see him in a white shirt again for quite some time!

Strickly speaking the only way that a team can get video evidence used is by citing it afterwards. Nigel had it right and if you start listening to everything a skipper wants to say to you, you will have a splitting headache by the end of the game.I am all for taking a look after a try as that is game changing,and you see it used a lot more as far back as they are allowed,but where do we stop? “Squint feed Sir,could you take a look?”
The rabo game I ran touch at,both skippers kept an almost constant running commentary of the various injustices being visited on their side,with wide players using the touch judge the same way.

It’s such a pity that Priestland was playing 10 for Wales. He hadn’t got a clue on either how to control the game or how to create attacks. And Hook showed his normal infuriating ability of making 3 yards spinning in attack and then giving the ball directly to the opposition. We’ll never know but would Wales have won if Biggar had been controlling the game? I have a feeling they would have. Btw Beck played well I thought. A good start for him.

He hasn’t got a French accent at all. 😕

I like the idea of the players giving the ref a hand. PO’C and BO’D have always been happy to point stuff out that the ref might be missing.

To the extent that it’s amazing that they actually have time to play a game of rugby in among the chatting, whinging, whining and complaining. 😆

Tru dat. Wasn’t sure thm was watching the same ref tbh. He sounds as Irish as they come. The only time you hear him speak French is when he’s reffing them. I hadn’t had him down as a poor ref previously to be fair, but he was poor on Saturday for sure. But to both sides. SA were clearly the more clinical side on the day.

And welsh fans whinging about a refereeing error that led to a try? Cry me a river. 🙁

Spot on, DD. I did pick up on the feeding in to the scrum, as it was far more obvious when SA were doing it. As Moore said, enforce the rules as they are, and in the case of the feed, as they have been for ages! Crooked feed? Free kick. Repeated offence? Penalty. Then? 9 goes off for 10.

Anything to get gobby little scrum halves off the pitch! 😈

Oh dear!

What do we think the answer to Englands midfield problems are then?

Has Cipriani’s chance gone? Would Farrell work at 12 with Manu at 13? Sam Tomkins doesn’t look up to scratch for me…I think he’s going to get a pasting by the AB’s!

The English tens are a problem I have watched Ford a bit and whilst he shows promise he hardly ever seems to pass, I think this is any area where the conservative game plans in the competitive aviva hold englan back compared to the rabo

My problem with Ford is that his goal kicking is awful. …as in really really awful.

The scrum half situation needs sorting too….way too much inconsistency with the selection there. Care seems to be the least favoured of the three, but Dickson is the least assured at international level.

Reckon the potty mouth kiwi biter will keep his place against the AB’s?

As far as flyhalfs who can control a game and that qualify for England, it’s got to be Flood, at least he stands fairly flat and tries to get a backline moving. Burns, to untested, and Gloucester are pap this year, Ford, just awful other than decent tactical awareness (as long as kicking’s involved)and the odd break. Farrell, decent place kick and defensively OK. Pretty poor showing really!
Inside centre we have no good flair players, and very few proper bosh ones either, so it’s be Anthony Allen for me, because as least you know the teams going to be hard to break down defensively, and he does have a knack of getting Tullagi into space, who you just have to have in the team, as he’s one of the very few genuine x factor players who play for England. He may not know how to pass very well, and doesn’t kick, but you know if he gets the ball, there will be 3 opposition players trying to stop him, and often they cant…
However, they are both injured, as is Barrett, so we’ll just have crap at centre instead.
And I’ll bet a pint that **** ashton is on the wing with a full back on the other….

Banahan scored on Friday….. 8)