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They seem oblivious to just how ridiculous they look, spouting this kind of bollocks, when everyone is watching their continued genocide on the news every night
I thought we'd established on the Lineker thread that no one reports the Gaza genocide?
I thought we'd established on the Lineker thread that no one reports the Gaza genocide?
No, what was suggested on the Lineker thread was that the BBC, specifically, often doesn't give the ongoing genocide in Gaza the coverage it deserves, and that this is likely to be linked to their concern of upsetting the government (as they previously did over the dodgy Iraq dossier)
But well done for having a cheap shot with your sarcasm at those who are concerned that the genocide being carried out by a Western-backed far-right apartheid regime isn't getting sufficient coverage. It follows closely your claim that DrJ has an "obsession" with the issue. Classy
Anyway it looks like the BBC is following the current government's shifting attitude towards the Gaza genocide as it increasingly damages Israel's global image and Western governments which support it
Do we actually think that Trump and Netanyahu care what their respective global images are?
Israel only has to care if the US tells it to. The US doesn't actually need to care.
Israel only has to care if the US tells it to. The US doesn't actually need to care.
Is the real reason this horror has continued so long, sadly.
I can't remember if I posted this previously but..
Back when I was at school there was this horrible little kid called alex who liked to think he was hard as nails but in reality he was about a foot shorter than everyone and a little runt.
The issue was he could get away with it as he had a couple of very hard big brothers who protected him. I remember he once demanded a shot of my bike, when I told him that wasn't going to happen he told me he was going to fight me at the gates after school the next day...he could obviously have fought me there and then, but knew he'd get his head kicked in and needed his brothers there to back him up.
Both brothers ended up in jail and without their back up, within weeks little alex had received multiple beatings from the kids he'd tried to push around
Every time I read about Israel I think of little Alex.
I think it is a convenient excuse in our own complicity in Israel's ongoing genocide to pretend that we can't do anything because of the US. The UK and Germany have been equally as guilty in supporting the genocide as the US.
It struck me yesterday when the withdrawal of trade talks was seen as a positive step, why the **** were we in trade talks with a regime that has been committing genocide and attempting to ethnically cleanse Gaza, in the first place? Israel should have been under the same sanctions as Russia, not doing so and/or supporting not doing so is just rank hypocrisy.
Has Starmer or Lammy actually admitted it is genocide yet, or are they still trying to downplay it as something else?
I edited my last post as i realised that saying 'israel will eventually get whats coming to it' wasnt particularly appropriate given 2 innocent folks have just been shot in washington
My anger isnt directed at the people of israel. Its with the mass murdering genocidal regime which run it and who carry out war crimes on a daily basis.
My anger isnt directed at the people of israel. Its with the mass murdering genocidal regime which run it and who carry out war crimes on a daily basis.
Israel is a democracy and if there is a mass murdering genocidal regime, it's because Israelis have voted for it.
Israel is a democracy and if there is a mass murdering genocidal regime, it's because Israelis have voted for it.
While technically true, that's oversimplifying things somewhat.
It's as broad a statement as painting all Americans as Trump lovers, or all Brits as fervent Brexiters.
Every Israeli I know hates Netenyahu.
Every Israeli I know hates Netenyahu.
Do they hate him more than they hate Palestinians?
From what I've seen, they do not.
Do they hate him more than they hate Palestinians?
From what I've seen, they do not.
Well some do and some don't but that's getting away from my point which was simply that all Israelis should not be lumped together as voting for and supporting the current government.
It's also possible to hate Palestinians in general (which you or I cannot fully understand without having lived there all our lives, there have been many atrocities on both sides over the years and feelings run high to say the least) without wishing for the brutality of what's happening now.
Well some do and some don't but that's getting away from my point which was simply that all Israelis should not be lumped together as voting for and supporting the current government.
Obviously, but to pretend the Netanyahu and his fellow war criminals have no support in Israel is to let the Israeli people off the hook.
It's also possible to hate Palestinians in general without wishing for the brutality of what's happening now.
One leads to the other, wouldn't you say ?
Obviously, but to pretend the Netanyahu and his fellow war criminals have no support in Israel is to let the Israeli people off the hook.
Fortunately, no-one's pretending that.
Fortunately, no-one's pretending that.
So what does this mean?
"My anger isnt directed at the people of israel. Its with the mass murdering genocidal regime which run it and who carry out war crimes on a daily basis. "
So what does this mean?
"My anger isnt directed at the people of israel. Its with the mass murdering genocidal regime which run it and who carry out war crimes on a daily basis. "
I suspect you're quite a clever, and obviously educated individual being a doctor. Not sure what the confusion is there, seems clear and reasonable to me.
So what does this mean?
"My anger isnt directed at the people of israel. Its with the mass murdering genocidal regime which run it and who carry out war crimes on a daily basis. "
It's a short way of saying "I don't blanket hate all Israeli's, I do blanket hate the regime". Fairly obviously some anger would also be directed at the large chunk of the population which does support it and likewise some anger would be reduced for the moderate voices in government, but people don't feel the need to write a full essay detailing every aspect of their views in every post here.
I understand the depth of feeling but but we (all) must keep in mind that it's still a complicated situation. Yes of course on the surface it's simple, Israel is bombing Gaza to bits and must be stopped, but that simplicity does not stay when you get below the surface a bit. Attacking each other's one-sentence statements with a whiff of wilful misunderstanding helps no one.
Yes of course on the surface it's simple, Israel is bombing Gaza to bits and must be stopped, but that simplicity does not stay when you get below the surface a bit.
Yes, it really does. There is no excuse or context that makes this genocide understandable or acceptable. It is that simple.
Yes, it really does. There is no excuse or context that makes this genocide understandable or acceptable. It is that simple.
Fortunately, no-one in here is suggesting otherwise, I don't think.
I bet a large section of Isrealis, its diaspora and sympathisers who are not fans of Netenyahu are still happy with Netenyahu's regime's actions in Gaza.
Yes, it really does. There is no excuse or context that makes this genocide understandable or acceptable. It is that simple.
Fortunately, no-one in here is suggesting otherwise, I don't think.
So what does it mean that below the surface it's not as simple as stopping the bombing?
If you want to stop the genocide it really is as simply as that.
Genocide is never justifiable under any circumstances.
It's a short way of saying "I don't blanket hate all Israeli's, I do blanket hate the regime"
Exactly .
No different than saying I hate the US government but I certainly don't dislike all Americans
Obviously there are many in Israel who support what they are doing, and I'm not going to be a fan of them. But you can't tar the entire population of a country with the same brush due to the actions of their government.
I didn't think that would need clarification tbh
Yes, it really does. There is no excuse or context that makes this genocide understandable or acceptable. It is that simple.
Ah but again, that's not what I'm saying. I really don't see how you can be misinterpreting my words to mean that I think that "this genocide understandable or acceptable" on any level.
I'll try and be clearer.
1) This genocide is not understandable or acceptable on any level.
2) It's not a simple situation.
When it comes to sweeping statements regarding the views of a country's population, that needs to take into account history, culture, politics, religion, broader world/regional influences, media influence, etc etc etc... Please also note that this whole sub-discussion was about Israeli views and opinions, not actions, which are admittedly more simply black and white.
Like I said before, "It's also possible to hate Palestinians in general without wishing for the brutality of what's happening now."
One leads to the other, wouldn't you say ?
No, not really.
Eventually maybe, taken to extremes.
[Edit for emphasis]
Genocide is never justifiable under any circumstances.
Fortunately, no-one in here is trying to justify it.
I bet a large section of Isrealis, its diaspora and sympathisers who are not fans of Netenyahu are still happy with Netenyahu's regime's actions in Gaza.
I'll give you that. I'll bet there's also some who don't think he's going far enough.
However I'll also bet you can find any number of people from any country with all sorts of extreme views.
Obviously there are many in Israel who support what they are doing, and I'm not going to be a fan of them. But you can't tar the entire population of a country with the same brush due to the actions of their government.
The point is that you can't neatly separate "the people of Israel" from the genocidal regime, since one chose the other - democracy - rule of the people. No doubt lots of individual Israelis don't like Netanyahu, or what their country has become. But he has been PM for twenty years. The electorate ("the people") can hardly claim ignorance off what they voted for.
A majority of the Israeli public is opposed to allowing humanitarian aid into the besieged Gaza Strip, a survey carried out by Israel’s Channel 13 has found.
Some 53 per cent of respondents said they believe Israel should not permit aid to enter Gaza, while only 34 per cent supported allowing lifesaving food, medicines and water to enter the enclave.
The survey sample, which included Palestinian citizens of Israel, suggests that opposition to humanitarian aid among Jewish Israelis may be even higher.
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Not really much input , just jotting in again to see that still nothing is being done about the genocide.
The point is that you can't neatly separate "the people of Israel" from the genocidal regime, since one chose the other - democracy -
I'm sure the example has been given many times before but 52% of brits voted for brexit. and whilst im in no way comparing mass genocide to the harms brexit has done, I think you can fairly easily separate those who voted for it from those who didn't
Israel hasn't "voted" for a genocide, it is deeply involved in carrying one out. This simply wouldn't be logistically possible without very substantial support from Israeli society.
There is a widespread belief within Israeli society that every single person in Gaza is a legitimate target.
The myth of Gaza’s ‘innocent’ majority of majority
https://www.jns.org/the-myth-of-gazas-innocent-majority/
"It’s time to dispel the myth that Gaza is filled with innocent civilians."
Withdrawal from the EU could have logistically occured even if only 1% of the UK population had supported it, the systematic destruction of Gaza and the mass killings by the IDF could not occur without substantial support from the Israeli people.
There is no comparison between people voting in a referendum and a country which has engaged in an intense "war" with its neighbour.
So just to be clear are you saying everyone in Israel supports what their government is doing?
Withdrawal from the EU could have logistically occured even if only 1% of the UK population had supported it, the systematic destruction of Gaza and the mass killings by the IDF could not occur without substantial support from the Israeli people.
Technically yes. Just like technically the Israeli government could drop a nuke on gaza tomorrow and be done with things..
Not going to happen though is it..
So just to be clear are you saying everyone in Israel supports what their government is doing?
I suspect that what he's saying is ...
the systematic destruction of Gaza and the mass killings by the IDF could not occur without substantial support from the Israeli people.
Just a hunch.
The British people voted for Brexit. Not every individual British person. Likewise, the Israeli people voted for Netanyahu. Over and over and over again. And even now a majority of them (apparently) are in favour of starving children. Think about that. In a room of Israelis, more than half support starving children. Mind. Blown.
So just to be clear are you saying everyone in Israel supports what their government is doing?
No why would I say that? I don't think there is anyone who has emphasised more than me on this thread just divided Israeli society is.
If you saw the Louis Theroux programme about settler violence in the West Bank recently you will have seen Israeli Jews standing shoulder to shoulder with Palestinians as they faced violence and intimidation from settlers and the IDF.
The settler movement does enjoy massive support within Israeli society though, indeed they are part of the coalition government which is overseeing the genocide in Gaza.
So just to be clear are you saying everyone in Israel supports what their government is doing?
Lindsey Hilsum on C4 news tonight after reporting on the strike that killed 9 members of one doctors family (a clearly targeted strike using f15/16's for which we supply parts/equipment - they are butchers, genoicidal butchers...thats about the most polite way I could express my thoughts, I have others I'd best keep to myself) reiterated the fact that israeli television does not show what is happening on the ground in Gaza and very few Israelis are actively seeking information as to what is going on..
I find that to be rather telling of an indifference and akin to what went on with the German population in the 1940's, they're are a number of activists who attempt to speak out/protest but the reporting of their demos and speeches is not broadcast nor publicised widely
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This Israeli politician literally says whilst he is being filmed these words : "The children are our enemies”
https://twitter.com/adamemedia/status/1925572482892751231/
Israeli society is so desensitised about the killing of Palestinian men, women, and children, and has dehumanised them to such an extent, that I suspect this Israeli politician is probably totally unaware of how disgusting his comments will appear to many normal people outside Israel.
And this Israeli is willing to be filmed saying :
"Destroy their offspring to prevent them from creating more offsprings"-
https://twitter.com/I_amMukhtar/status/1925888004691775970
4.6 million views since yesterday. The global PR damage to Israel is incalculable but this woman won't be aware of that because killing Palestinians is probably a perfectly natural thing to do in her eyes. In fact I am sure she believes that she is helping the zionist cause by explaining why Palestinian babies need to be killed.
Here is proof that not all Israelis would support every man, woman, and child, in Gaza being killed by the IDF, only 47% would.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support-expulsion-palestinians-gaza-poll
The survey, conducted in March and published by Haaretz newspaper on Thursday, found that 82 percent of Israeli Jews support the forced expulsion of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip.
Meanwhile, 47 percent of the Jews answered yes to the question: "Do you support the claim that the [Israeli army] in conquering an enemy city, should act in a manner similar to the way the Israelites did when they conquered Jericho under the leadership of Joshua, ie to kill all its inhabitants?"
The reference is to the biblical story of the conquest of Jericho when Joshua's army was said to have killed every man, woman and child after capturing the city.
No why would I say that? I don't think there is anyone who has emphasised more than me on this thread just divided Israeli society is.
So you agree with me then that's it's wrong to tar all Israelis with the same brush?
Ill never argue against the notion that anyone who supports the killing in gaza is scum. But that's not every Israeli, even if many do.
So hard to listen to, how this Dr holds it together i do not know, yet she still has the voice to ask the BBC to release the BBC commissioned documentary “Medics under Fire” that is withheld
https://twitter.com/PulaRJS/status/1926350733969969507
So you agree with me then that's it's wrong to tar all Israelis with the same brush?
Well yes of course, one of the Israelis which I have probably quoted the most on this thread is Ilan Pappe who supports Palestine as much as I do.
But it is perfectly legitimate to criticise Israel and Israeli society as a single entity. Israel claims to be at "war" with Occupied Palestine, it is completely reasonable and accepted to describe a country's behaviour when it is at war as if it is a single entity.
For example it is perfectly acceptable to say that "Germany invaded Poland in 1939", no one says "some Germans invaded Poland in 1939" to emphasise that not all Germans necessarily supported the illegal act of aggression.
From basement films and an update https://twitter.com/basement_films/status/1926186851599048968?s=46&t=qvPR6lBfBXtAWZ-6beFWyA
FFS at long last, now get on with it and apply full sanctions against the genocidal far-right regime. If you can't do the obvious thing and assemble a multinational peacekeeping force to stop the genocide.
Spanish FM proposes international sanctions on Israel to stop war in Gaza
Madrid will host 20 countries as well as international organizations on Sunday with the aim of “stopping this war, which no longer has any goal,”
Indeed no goal beyond killing Palestinians and keeping Netanyahu and his neo-fascist coalition partners in power.
Humanitarian aid must enter Gaza “massively, unimpeded, neutrally, so that it is not Israel who decides who can eat and who cannot"
For almost 60 years Israel has been deciding what the people of Gaza can and cannot have. It is time to end the world's last remaining colonial power.
FFS at long last
Indeed, but I'm afraid it won't achieve what is needed. It will expose those governments who are not prepared to take what is the only action that can pressure the Israeli regime though, and I'm not convinced our government will come out on the right side of history
For almost 60 years Israel has been deciding what the people of Gaza can and cannot have. It is time to end the world's last remaining colonial power.
With my sepia tinted sunglasses on I'd like to consider that is possible, along with removing every single settler (by force if necessary) but I doubt that will happen in my lifetime.
Gawd knows what is going to transpire from this.......
Gawd knows what is going to transpire from this.......
I’m willing to bet that Netanyahu calls it antisemitism. Probably Starmer will say the same thing.
The more Netanyahu repeats the word “antisemitism” then the less effective it becomes
Ironically if there is one person in the world above all others who has done more to ramp up anti-semitism it is Benjamin Netanyahu.
Not only has Netanyahu provided so much ammunition to anti-semites with his barbaric and criminal policies but by claiming, as he does, that the genocide in Gaza is in the name of all Jews he is repeating exactly the same lie as anti-semites make. The genocide is a feature of the zionist state and is profoundly opposed by many Jews globally.
I'd like to consider that is possible, along with removing every single settler (by force if necessary) but I doubt that will happen in my lifetime.
I wouldn't be so sure. I reckon the zionist project under certain circumstances could unravel quite quickly, it took South African apartheid approximately 4 years to unravel.
Sure, despite being incomparably less brutal than Israeli apartheid South African apartheid didn't enjoy the level of Western support which Israel currently enjoys but things could change reasonably quickly.
And never forget that Israel is primarily acting as it is now because it is in a catastrophic crisis, easily the worst crisis in its entire history. Add to that international sanctions, growing regional hostility, an undefeated resistance movement, negative net migration, economic collapse, and the 700k illegal colonial settlers could pack their bags and leave pretty sharpish.
Thousands of Israelis have joined a state-funded march through the Muslim quarter of the Old City in Jerusalem, where large groups chanted racist slogans including “Gaza is ours”, “death to the Arabs” and “may their villages burn”.
The annual march, paid for and promoted by the Jerusalem city government, celebrates Israel’s capture and occupation of East Jerusalem and its holy sites in the war of 1967. The Israeli takeover is not recognised internationally.
It sounds like a scene from Germany in the 1930s in which the Brown Shirts are marching through a Jewish quarter to intimidate Jews, or Oswald Mosley's Black Shirts marching through the East End of London.
It isn't though, this is 2025 in a city illegally occupied by a far-right government which is supported by Western powers.
I am Israel - written by Professor Norman Finkelstein.
'I am Israel. I came to a land without a people for a people without a land. Those people who happened to be here, had no right to be here, and my people showed them they had to leave or die, razing 400 Palestinian villages to the ground, erasing their history.
I am Israel. Some of my people committed massacres and later became Prime Ministers to represent me. In 1948, Menachem Begin was in charge of the unit that slaughtered the inhabitants of Deir Yassin, including 100 women and children. In 1953, Ariel Sharon led the slaughter of the inhabitants of Qibya, and in 1982 arranged for our allies to butcher around 2,000 in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila.
I am Israel. Carved in 1948 out of 78% of the land of Palestine, dispossessing its inhabitants and replacing them with Jews from Europe and other parts of the world. While the natives whose families lived on this land for thousands of years are not allowed to return, Jews from all over the world are welcome to instant citizenship.
I am Israel. In 1967, I swallowed the remaining lands of Palestine - East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza - and placed their inhabitants under an oppressive military rule, controlling and humiliating every aspect of their daily lives. Eventually, they should get the message that they are not welcome to stay, and join the millions of Palestinian refugees in the shanty camps of Lebanon and Jordan.
I am Israel. I have the power to control American policy. My American Israel Public Affairs Committee can make or break any politician of its choosing, and as you see, they all compete to please me. All the forces of the world are powerless against me, including the UN as I have the American veto to block any condemnation of my war crimes. As Sharon so eloquently phrased it, “We control America”.
I am Israel. I influence American mainstream media too, and you will always find the news tailored to my favor. I have invested millions of dollars into PR representation, and CNN, New York Times, and others have been doing an excellent job of promoting my propaganda. Look at other international news sources and you will see the difference.
I am Israel. You Palestinians want to negotiate “peace!?” But you are not as smart as me; I will negotiate, but will only let you have your municipalities while I control your borders, your water, your airspace and anything else of importance. While we “negotiate,” I will swallow your hilltops and fill them with settlements, populated by the most extremist of my extremists, armed to the teeth. These settlements will be connected with roads you cannot use, and you will be imprisoned in your little Bantustans between them, surrounded by checkpoints in every direction.
I am Israel. I have the fourth strongest army in the world, possessing nuclear weapons. How dare your children confront my oppression with stones, don’t you know my soldiers won’t hesitate to blow their heads off? In 17 months, I have killed 50000 of you and injured 17,000, mostly civilians, and have the mandate to continue since the international community remains silent. Ignore, as I do, the hundreds of Israeli reserve officers who are now refusing to carry out my control over your lands and people; their voices of conscience will not protect you.
I am Israel. You want freedom? I have bullets, tanks, missiles, Apaches and F-16s to obliterate you. I have placed your towns under siege, confiscated your lands, uprooted your trees, demolished your homes, and you still demand freedom? Don’t you get the message? You will never have peace or freedom, because I am Israel.'
- written by Professor Norman Finkelstein.
Nicely summed by the British Embassy in Israel :
witnessing 🇬🇧–🇮🇱 cooperation at every stop
Publicly condemning a far-right government for committing war crimes and the mass murder of children whilst quietly cooperating with them as much as possible.
Sir Keir Starmer has certainly changed the DNA of the Labour Party, as he claims to have done.
I see the expose of the aid distribution is becoming apparent, Israel are attempting to greenwash genocide now……..
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1927207320615878773
And here is the aid lines, it reminds me of laying out feeding areas for problematic wildlife to gather them together before dispatching of them,
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1927390088511504531
Here’s a good article by Chris Hedges (Pulitzer prize winner/New York Times journalist) on how the absurd antisemitism jibe has been weaponised by the trump regime to aid them with their attacks on universities
https://chrishedges.substack.com?utm_source=navbar&utm_medium=web
There’s nothing “humanitarian” about the scheme, if it’s not designed to further “dehumanise” the population (I think it is), then it is designed and delivered by an “agency” that seems to not understand what it is to be human, and has chosen to not listen to those who do understand how to help people in a humane way.
As usual Francesca Albanese hits the nail on the head
Last week in a joint statement the governments of the UK, France, and Canada, claimed that they would "not hesitate" to take "concrete action" against Israel if it did not lift restrictions on humanitarian aid to starving Palestinians.
It turns out that all three governments were lying. All three governments are very clearly still hesitating in taking "concrete action" against Israel as it continues to starve Palestinians.
The world will never forget this, both how Israel was responsible for a genocide and how Western governments helped and supported them. Not only will Israel's standing in the world be forever affected but also the West's moral authority.
Bulletin from Gaza
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Hello, I'm Mohammed. You may or may not remember me. But what I'm about to tell you doesn't require any prior knowledge - just a listening heart.
Two days ago, I had an appointment with a man from whom I was to exchange $200 of PayPal donations for some shekels in cash. The place we agreed to meet is near Shuja'iyya, the neighborhood where I was born and where I lived up until Oct 2023.
I went to Shuja’iyya with my friend, one who I went to school with. On the way, we met a third friend who was carrying a bag of lentils and pasta! We were surprised because the prices of these items are currently sky-high. So I asked him in astonishment, "Where did you get this?" He replied with a faint smile, "From my house." But his house is in Shuja'iyya, and the place is isolated; no one enters or leaves.
My friend whispered to me, "We also have some flour and sugar at home. Let's go.”
When we arrived near my friend’s house, everything was silent, like a cemetery. We crept in, step by step, as if we were thieves in our own homes. We opened the door, but once inside we found everything had been stolen. No flour, no sugar, just… a packet of cigarettes. We laughed bitterly, took the cigarettes, and left.
For three hours, under the scorching sun, we waited for the man with whom I’d agreed to exchange money. Finally, he came, we took the money, and headed for the market. I hadn’t eaten for a while and my body began to fail me. I bought some crab soup, sat on a stone, and drank it slowly, as if it were a sea saviour rescuing me from starvation.
At the market, I saw something amazing: humanitarian aid was being sold, stolen by those who do not fear God. We bought vegetable oil, chickpeas, and a nutritional supplement, then we returned home as the sun began to set.
That evening, I broke my fast with lentils and lentil bread. Then I fell asleep, not from fullness, but from exhaustion.
I woke up the next day hungrier than I could describe. I went to the market to try and find vegetable oil for my grandmother. While there, I met another friend, and we went looking for the vegetable oil together.
But soon we discovered that the market was upside down. There was chaos, theft, and panic. Vendors fled with their goods, and people were swarming around like locusts.
We managed to buy the oil then left. On the way home, I passed the Saraya intersection. It was full of people: some waiting for aid, some waiting to steal it, and some just watching.
Later I heard the Arrow Unit arrived there, Palestinian police who tried to restore order. But they were targeted by Israeli drones. My father happened to be there, carrying some firewood. He lay prone amidst the dust and destruction, before returning home, exhausted.
Later, my father and mother went out to the market. They wanted to buy something… anything they could find to eat. On the way there, near Shuja'iyya, they saw a quadcopter drone firing at a group of people. One person was killed, and the others fled.
They returned home with nothing.
As the sun set, we heard news of an imminent truce. But the bombing didn't stop, the anxiety didn't subside, and sleep didn't come.
We slept... or rather, we didn't sleep, waiting for morning, waiting for news... waiting for life, or waiting for our turn.
Mohammed Al-Batniji (17 years old, in Gaza)
Israel … ^……has turned totally and absolutely rogue in nature and action, it wouldn’t surprise me to see them go all in on attacking Iran next just to continue Netanyahu’s rule,
How long before we/the western world send in a peacekeeping force?……ha…ha…yeah, that’s never going to happen is it?, dead Palestinian kids = handwringing, dead Israeli kids = full throated support and here you go…..a weapons bonanza
This is very clever, very simple, and I found very powerful.
At the market, I saw something amazing: humanitarian aid was being sold, stolen by those who do not fear God.
On a video I saw flour that was labelled as aid was selling at $30 a bag and a whole tinned chicken, also aid and labelled not for sale, was $85.
This is apparently aid that had been hijacked and should be free, not sold. The Israelis are complaining because the amount of aid they say that has been delivered should have been enough for still another couple of months, but it has been hijacked like this and is for sale - but at those prices it is not surprising people are malnourished when it is unaffordable.
This is apparently aid that had been hijacked and should be free, not sold.
Of course. The police should be stopping the hijacks. Oh. The police have all been systematically killed by the Israelis.
The Israelis are complaining
Liars gonna lie
At the market, I saw something amazing: humanitarian aid was being sold, stolen by those who do not fear God.On a video I saw flour that was labelled as aid was selling at $30 a bag and a whole tinned chicken, also aid and labelled not for sale, was $85.
This is apparently aid that had been hijacked and should be free, not sold. The Israelis are complaining because the amount of aid they say that has been delivered should have been enough for still another couple of months, but it has been hijacked like this and is for sale - but at those prices it is not surprising people are malnourished when it is unaffordable.
We haven't had a shill for a while 🙄
On a video I saw flour that was labelled as aid was selling at $30 a bag and a whole tinned chicken, also aid and labelled not for sale, was $85.
Well it's great that prices are clearly displayed for everyone to see but why are the prices in Dollars when the currency is the Israeli Shekel ?
The thing which distinguishes the Holocaust - in my head, anyway - from other genocides such as Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Armenia etc - is the degree of "industrialisation" involved - the "scientific" death camps. It seems that the Israelis are re-enacting the industrial genocide, with specialist input from the US: the sadism of the Israelis and the inhumanity of the US. We are truly witnessing an appalling historical event.
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-856125
“Ben & Jerry’s believes in human rights and advocates for peace, and we join with those around the world who denounce the genocide in Gaza,” the board said in the statements. “We stand with all who raise their voices against genocide in Gaza — from petition-signers to street marchers to those risking arrest.”
Well it's great that prices are clearly displayed for everyone to see but why are the prices in Dollars when the currency is the Israeli Shekel ?
Because whoever was presenting the video translated the amounts for the viewers, they were commenting on another video from a women who was at the markets.
Because whoever was presenting the video translated the amounts for the viewers
So we only have the word of "whoever" was presenting this video, which you have seen but none of us have, that this aid was being sold at those prices. Okay.
Which begs the very obvious question...... everyone agrees that Gaza has been reduced to rubble by the IDF, the Palestinian people there have no homes, no schools, no hospitals, no furniture, no food, no medicines, no books, no shops, but wait..... despite not having any of those things they do apparently have cash (either Israeli Shekels or US dollars) to maintain a thriving black market in stolen aid, how is this possible?
Obviously what you are suggesting gravedigger is complete bollocks, even the Israeli government which is renowned for talking complete bollocks isn't coming out with nonsense like that.
In fact the Israeli government is saying very loudly and very clearly that Palestinian men, women, and children, are starving because they are stopping humanitarian from entering Gaza.
The Israeli defence minister, Israel Katz, said: “Israel’s policy is clear: no humanitarian aid will enter Gaza"
The Israeli government is known to lie, lie, and lie again, but on this score I think we can safely assume that they are telling the truth. The are being completely open that they are committing war crimes.
Not to mention, the small fact that if there were no shortage of food, no one could make a profit selling food at inflated prices Nobody can sell me cooking oil for £100 as long as I can go to Sainsbury’s and buy it for £2. So the black market is purely a result of the Israeli starvation blockade.
There were American soldiers present but apparently none of them felt the need to open fire at a crowd of starving civilians, only the Israelis did.
Could there be more proof that the IDF considers Palestinians to be subhuman in a similar way that the Nazis considered Jews to be subhuman?
If the IDF spoke Arabic instead of Hebrew they would have been classed as a terrorist organisation a very long time ago.
This guy below is an international human rights lawyer according to his Twitter bio, along stating he is a “Proud Zionist”.
His Twitter posts are full of bile and outright hatred, what we know expect from such a belief system
https://twitter.com/Ostrov_A/status/1929029784681525515
What kind of sick person does this (has a bbq next to Gaza, in case the link doesn’t work). What level of sadism to Israelis reach?
if/when the wheel of history turns, and the boot is on the other foot, who is going to save them from the gas chambers, and who is going to shrug and say “whatever”.
It is difficult to know the context of that ^^ photo, ie when and exactly where it was taken, but what is absolutely certain is that many Israelis do like to use the backdrop of IDF slaughtering Palestinians for a fun festive day which involves food and drink.
As this completely verifiable example which is over ten years proves.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing
People drink, snack and pose for selfies against a background of explosions as Palestinian death toll mounts in ongoing offensive
When the Nazi oppressed, become the Nazi oppressor
When the Nazi oppressed, become the Nazi oppressor
That's a great line.
As always, I think care needs to be taken that we don't lump all Israelis into the same homogenous grouping. Like all populations, the support for their government actions will range from full on moronic murder lust to absolute disgust and horror.