the same old mince
Unlike this thread in which everyday there is a new revelation concerning Johnson.
Today I believe it's that he is a liar.
🤦♂️
It’s not mate, it’s because you and a handful of others constantly spam the thread with the same old mince. That’s the reason I don’t open it anymore
The door is always open to come and make some comments about how great he is.
No doubt the by-election might jockey some activity.
As for the content, you’ll be hard pushed to compress a bigger amount of bullshit, fantasy and outright lies into just a few minutes
I've seen worse even if don't agree with word of it.
I will nip across to the Starmer thread to see the alternative view point.
https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/status/1539293893761683456?t=zqQUpLO8LrfRSryU1J-6Mg&s=19
Oh dear God.
Having failed to have Dacre dropped into the role of Ofcom chair, the nice Mr Johnson is going to reward him for dropping the Carriegate story by popping him into the House of Lords. 🙄
He really is utterly shameless in his corruption. ☹️
The door is always open to come and make some comments about how great he is.
That would mean interacting with people who don't necessarily share the same opinions.
One of the central characteristics of "centrists" is extreme intolerance of dissenting political opinions, whether it's expelling people from the Labour Party or policing the political threads.
You will not see one Tory supporter post on this thread, well certainly not openly. The idea that no one on stw votes Tory is ridiculous, and if it were even true it would be a damning indictment - millions vote Tory, some of them ride bikes.
But the "liberals" have created a toxic and hostile environment which will not tolerate political dissent. Not even neutral comments with regards to Johnson are tolerated, to fit in and meet with approval every comment must show that you hate Johnson with every bone in your body.
Even mefty who was the last to express opinions from a Tory supporter perspective appears to have finally given up. And this place is all the more poorer for it. I always found his contributions both interesting and useful, however strongly I might have disagreed with them.
It at least provided a point to the discussions, rather than just all agreeing how much everyone agrees that the Tories are Tories.
Toxicity all round.
I am surprised that no one else picked up on Johnsons sinuses. It obvious he is often off his tits on cokeamd chronic sinusitis is the result
So much drug effected behaviour ignored when its posh or rich folk
Wrong thread
My dad has bad sinuses and he's never touched cocaine. He looks a bit like Bojo aswell 🤣 not the hair obvz
One of the central characteristics of “centrists” is extreme intolerance of dissenting political opinions
Are you for real????
No no it was just a teenage dalliance
...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-boris-johnson-finally-admits-16517649
Lots of rumours about it when he was mayor, mates that worked in the city at the time thought he was a bit of legend 🙄
I'd kind of assumed he'd grown out of it by now
He is a known coke head and displays all the behaviours of one
But the “liberals” have created a toxic and hostile environment which will not tolerate political dissent. Not even neutral comments with regards to Johnson are tolerated, to fit in and meet with approval every comment must show that you hate Johnson with every bone in your body.
What arrant tosh Ernie. We're playing the same game as those well know tolerant people Therese May (architect of the hostile environment) and Priti Patel our current beacon of caring conservatism plus that spice Michael Green/Grant Shaps (whatever his name is today). We play the team we have before us and anyone supporting them would rightly be decried for being another heartless bastard. There appears to be not a scintilla of humanity in any of the government front bench is it any wonder those of us that care for our fellow countrymen/women have no time for them or their supporters. When even Chris Patten and Ken Clarke can see no redeeming features in the current bunch would anyone stick their head up and say "well they appear ok"?
Are you for real????
I’m not entirely convinced but welcome to Ernie’s world anyway. He shares it with 4 other people. They’ll be along shortly because nobody takes them on any more on the Starmer thread any more, so they’ve colonised this one instead now, just so they can remind everyone else how wrong they are.
the nice Mr Johnson is going to reward him for dropping the Carriegate story by popping him into the House of Lords.
It was the times who dropped the story.
The mail on sunday did reference it, I think, in its serialisation of Ashcrofts book about Carrie Johnson which remains in place.
Johnson does owe him plenty of favours but not for that.
I imagine there’s a dossier somewhere of Johnson stories that have never seen the light of day.
What we know about his shenanigans is just the tip of the iceberg
Would anyone be remotely surprised if there was a ‘Jimmy Saville’ moment in ten years time where it all comes flooding out and everyone who isn’t a credulous halfwit has to pretend to look surprised?
What arrant tosh Ernie.
If so explain where the Tory supporters are on this thread, or any other political thread. There used to be significant contributions from Tory supporters on stw, if a hostile, intolerant, and toxic environment, isn't what stopped them posting what did?
But fair play to you for admitting to being no less intolerant than senior Tory politicians are, at least you are honest.
I’m not entirely convinced but welcome to Ernie’s world anyway.
You appear to hate the left as much as you hate the Tories binners. Not entirely surprising I guess as both have one thing in common - the unforgivable crime of having different opinions to yours. If there is one thing that you appear unable to tolerate is people with different opinions to yours.
Which makes them risk a caps on post with personal insults and a generous amount of thinly veiled sweary words from you.
Ernie - you could run an experiment by not contributing to this thread and the Starmer thread for a few days and see if it continues the way you think it will.
anyone know what the bookies are offering for Carrie to get the Ethics advisor role ?
I had assumed that the STW Tories had gone quiet because they can no longer defend the indefensible. Certainly the conservative voters I know wouldn't even attempt to defend this shower, the only question is wether they will still vote conservative at the next election?
Unfortunately ernie, as this administration lurches further towards fascism it is your beloved working classes that are taking the bait.
The traditional conservative values of fiscal responsibility and moral fortitude are anathema to the current Tory party and Labour has now become completely decoupled from the working classes, a job the Thatcher began successfully in Essex.
It's only those on the extremes that even know what they are voting for.
The whole thing is going to come crumbling down soon and a new political landscape will emerge. The best we can hope for is a naked alliance between all the on Tory parties to achieve a non right wing coalition. Sorry to be so non ideological but democracy is at stake here.
If such a a successful alliance can be achieved then I can see the Tory party turning into a UK version of the Front National in France. If not, they win and Britain as we knew it will be a thing of the past.
Would anyone be remotely surprised if there was a ‘Jimmy Saville’ moment in ten years time where it all comes flooding out and everyone who isn’t a credulous halfwit has to pretend to look surprised?
This appears out of order. Johnson is utterly loathsome, but ‘Jimmy Saville’ insinuations are unhelpful imho
Lots of rumours about it when he was mayor, mates that worked in the city at the time thought he was a bit of legend 🙄
I’d kind of assumed he’d grown out of it by now
Rumours in Tory HQ at Easter that there were pics of him doing coke in No 10.
and see if it continues the way you think it will.
Eh? I haven't said anything suggesting how I think the thread will continue. I made the point concerning the level of political intolerance that is evident on here.
I specifically referred to the lack of contributions from Tory/Johnson supporters.
There was one person about a year ago who posted something along the lines of "I quite like Boris" on this thread, you can imagine the reaction, they obviously never posted again. I would like to think that I can have a civilised discussion with someone who supports the Tories, as long as they are respectful. Can you imagine a "liberal" like binners being able to do that on here?
The irony is that centrists claim that Tory supporters should be engaged on their terms and not frightened away. And yet on here centrists show zero tolerance towards Tory supporters.
You will not see one Tory supporter post on this thread, well certainly not openly. The idea that no one on stw votes Tory is ridiculous, and if it were even true it would be a damning indictment
How do you know that? The political views of your average traditional Tory does extend to defending the indefensible. Unless you haven't noticed that's why they are reduced to wheeling out the usual list of fourth raters to defend the latest lie/corruption/stunt.....
Just go to your local pub. It doesn't take many social skills to work out distain for Boris Johnson doesn't define your political views, just an instinct to spot a wrongun
"There was one person about a year ago who posted something along the lines of “I quite like Boris” on this thread, you can imagine the reaction, they obviously never posted again. I would like to think that I can have a civilised discussion with someone who supports the Tories, as long as they are respectful. Can you imagine a “liberal” like binners being able to do that on here? "
Try being a remainer on a motorbike forum. See how that goes.
The political views of your average traditional Tory does extend to defending the indefensible
I can guarantee that plenty of Tory supporters feel totally able to defend what you, and me, consider to be indefensible.
It used to happen regularly on here a few years ago. Or do you think that issues such as austerity were somehow more "defensible"?
Meanwhile Dominic Raab just issued a statement that they intend to overturn Human Rights legislation tomorrow to take us out of the ECHR.
Do you want to find someone to defend that one then, comrade?
Maybe have a crack yourself?
In the interests of balance…
Fascism needs defending too, after all
binners
Full Member
Meanwhile Dominic Raab just issued a statement that they intend to overturn Human Rights legislation tomorrow to take us out of the ECHR.Do you want to find someone to defend that one then, comrade?
Putin. Putin would have a go I reckon.👍
In the interests of balance…
It has nothing to do with balance. I am pointing out your extreme intolerance of political opinions other than those which very closely match yours.
It doesn't matter if it is a right-wing or left-wing opinion, if it disagrees with yours you get into a raging rant and hurl personal insults.
Or are you seriously going to claim to be tolerant and open-minded about other people's political views?
I can so imagine that famous night when you went into one in the Rose and Crown in Ramsbottom, and you later banned yourself from there, as you have from the Starmer thread. The stunned silence afterwards which you described must have been palpable as they thought "what the actual ****".
Still, better to dwell in an echo chamber where everyone agrees with you than to try to win people over, eh?
maybe it would be best to ignore posts by ernie, kelvin and the others in the small crew of persistent posters who delight in their little echo chambers as they have become tiresome in the extreme - retreading old posts but...why?
I pay a full digital and print subscription for a magazine I don't read because I believe in supporting small businesses.
So much of the verbiage posted on the political threads is from 'free members'; I've commented before and my views haven't changed - free loaders persistently shooting their mouths off on a forum which they don't support financially should be ignored.
A 'free member' posting occasionally is OK by me; if you have lots to say, make a financial contribution.
Rumours in Tory HQ at Easter that there were pics of him doing coke in No 10.
And? Cocaine use is widespread in the UK, especially at higher levels in politics and business. Why is that a major surprise? Same goes for booze. Drug taking in politics and wider society is endemic. If there’s anything to be outraged about Johnson’s (and everyone else’s) drug use it’s the hypocrisy of supporting prohibition despite their own habitual use.
And? Cocaine use is widespread in the UK, especially at higher levels in politics and business.
Oh, that's ok then. The prime minister can do whatever he wants as long as lots of other people are also doing it.
I mean, it's not like his position comes with any sort of responsibility or indeed obligation to, y'know, lead by example.
I pay a full digital and print subscription for a magazine I don’t read because I believe in supporting small businesses.
So much of the verbiage posted on the political threads is from ‘free members’; I’ve commented before and my views haven’t changed – free loaders persistently shooting their mouths off on a forum which they don’t support financially should be ignored
They support them financially through ads - free members endure adverts - that's the deal on the table.
I was a premium subscriber for 10years but had so many issues with the website it started to be a waste of money. The money itself is not really an issue for me.
You are suggesting that just because you don't like what's being said then you have to pay for that privilege?
I'm seeing more examples of random ways of trying to cull opinions by posters - it's frankly bizarre and tells you a lot about the state of politics that people can't deal with it.
And? Cocaine use is widespread in the UK, especially at higher levels in politics and business. Why is that a major surprise? Same goes for booze.
It's about the law, really
You will not see one Tory supporter post on this thread
There used to be significant contributions from Tory supporters on stw
It used to happen regularly on here a few years ago
Constantly saying the same thing over and over again, while simultaneously complaining that binners constantly derails threads with the same gifs and monty python jokes...
There's a word for that.
And while the same 5 posters completely derail another thread by reducing it to their favourite subject… talking about themselves again, this is happening today…
https://twitter.com/business/status/1539425205378064384?s=21&t=BPeURlyil6kJlQV75SRaCQ
Anything to actually say about the topic of Boris and co at all, or shall we just all keep on talking about you and occasionally Keir Starmer?
Boris and co, - remember… the one who this thread is meant to be about - in a fit of pique at not being allowed to do whatever the **** they like, are about to start tearing up our human rights.
They want to pick and choose which rights we should, or shouldn’t, be entitled too. And they’ve tasked these hugely important decisions to Dominic Raab. The Patrick Bateman of UK politics. A man who constantly looks like he’s just murdered a prostitute with a hammer while listening to Phl Collins
Anything to actually say about the topic of Boris and co at all, or shall we just all keep on talking about you and occasionally Keir Starmer?
I responded to your 'anything to say about the rail strike query - in this thread.'
Yeah I will keep on talking about Starmer when he doesn't kick back hard enough against Johnson.
Otherwise this is just a newsfeed without context of constant Tory suprise.
Boris and Co now? You expanded it.
In fact where is Starmer? Seems like Mick Lynch is doing his job.
Has the fingerprints of lynton Crosby all over it
In fact where is Starmer?
Why not go and visit the thread thats specifically about that subject and ask there?Just a thought?
Why not go and visit the thread thats specifically about that subject and ask there?
Just a thought?
Thought you might know? And you're in this thread and not in the other.
There you go then.
Glad to be of assistance
Have a nice day
Yeah I will keep on talking about Starmer when he doesn’t kick back hard enough
So while pretty much everyone with half a mind on politics has realised that Starmer's largely ineffectual, you want you keep talking about him, but while Johnson breaks everything within reach in a desperate attempt to remain in power you're not really bothered as it "Just the the Tories"
Sunak says he's using all the tools to help bring down inflation this morning.
Ah okay.
Up 0.1% from April - May to 9.1
He has no tools - the BoE have no tools. They are tools.
And? Cocaine use is widespread in the UK, especially at higher levels in politics and business.
And now we're completely through the looking glass as one of the resident lefties actually appears to defend Johnson!!!!!!!
The toxic intolerance on here that drives the political debate emanates from the same for 4 or 5 freloading (free members), that's why anyone right of Marx doesn't like posting, and the continued insistence that anyone not fully in favour of the glorious revolution is a hateful human being. You 5 need to take a long hard look at yourselves and understand the impact of your contributions.
It's blindingly obvious that the RW press & Johnson want to try & pin it on starmer & labour
Meanwhile inflation is at a record high, gas prices are going to be punishingly expensive this winter and Johnson has managed to stir up hatred of assylum seekers to keep the base onside
