Year Round Camping Now Available In Scottish Forests

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If you’ve a fully equipped campervan with toilet, you can now camp year round in many if the car parks operated by Forestry and Land Scotland. Previously this has been a summer only affair, but that’s now been extended. Note the requirement for a toilet – pop up toilet tents not allowed – and one night stays only. This is potentially of great use and interest to the mountain bike community, and is a welcome change to some locations where ‘van camping’ is increasingly being clamped down on. Read on for more information information in the press release and details of the rules to be observed:

Forestry and Land Scotland (FLS) is now welcoming visitors to make use of its popular ‘Stay the Night’ scheme all year round. 

Following a last year’s successful winter trial, FLS is pleased to announce the off-season option is now part of the popular overnight initiative.

There will be a slight reduction in the number of car parks participating over winter compared to the rest of the year, but visitors will still find sites across Scotland for those in self-contained campervans and motorhomes (with all facilities including toilet inside the vehicle and crucially used inside) looking for an overnight stopping place.

Alan Chalmers, FLS’ Visitor Planning Manager, said:

“On the back of a successful winter trial last year, it is exciting to be able to now confirm FLS is incorporating this option into the Stay the Night scheme, making it a year-round offer.

“There are people who prefer to tour in the winter months when the main holiday season is over, and the landscape and scenery offer a very different experience, and the trial showed us these visitors took up the opportunity to overnight responsibly in the participating car parks.

“Encouraging people to stop at locations that would normally be quiet in winter or that they would otherwise have passed through may help to provide a boost to many small rural businesses.”

FLS is again asking people using its sites to follow guidance that includes no fires or barbecues, taking away rubbish, keeping noise levels down and finding alternative options if the car park is already full.

The winter stop overs will be available on a first-come-first-served basis and the usual modest charge of £7 per stay, payable via RingGo by app or phone, will be in effect at most of the participating locations and £10 at the ones with chemical waste disposal.

Stays are for one night only between the hours of 6 pm and 10 am, with no return visit for 48 hours. Due to operational, environmental or other considerations, changes may have to be made to participating car parks during the year.

Stay the Night is only open to visitors in self-contained motorhomes and campervans. FLS staff will check participating car parks to ensure that the rules are observed and, if necessary, remind people that tents beside cars, pop-up, pup or toilet tents – or any motorhome or campervan without its own toilet facility – are not permitted. Neither are generators permitted.

Full details including a list and location map of all the participating car parks and restrictions please visit our Stay the Night webpage.

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  • fahzure
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    Ooooh! Make sure that Webasto is in working order.

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    tractionman
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    does anyone call these things ‘motorhomes’ anymore? or is ‘campervan’ the preferred lingo?

    when I saw ‘camping’ I thought it meant proper camping like, ie in a tent 🙂

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    Andy
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    Campervan = converted van.

    Motorhome = coachbuilt box on a van chassis.

    Has been my understanding for years….

    Matt_SS_xc
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    It’s a great provision. We use them all the time.

    Would be good if England and Wales start to offer the same.

    Spin
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    does anyone call these things ‘motorhomes’ anymore? or is ‘campervan’ the preferred lingo

    As pointed out above, campervans and motorhomes are slightly different things.

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    scotroutes
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    Yeah, but the vehicle featured sits in that grey area between campervan and motorhome.

    binman
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    Always assumed that a motorhome had bathroom facilities and a campervan didn’t ?

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    matt_outandabout
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    does anyone call these things ‘motorhomes’ anymore? or is ‘campervan’ the preferred lingo?

    In my experience it’s decided by the owner.

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    joshvegas
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    As pointed out above, campervans and motorhomes are slightly different things

    Neither of which are camping?

    Its a bit annoying that its getting harder harder to find somewhere to pitch a tent (fnar) but forestry infrastructure that should be for everyone only allows campervans?

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    Blazin-saddles
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    I suspect it’s mainly down to them only wanting people with toilets onboard.  We used the forest sites a couple of years ago between Christmas and New Years and obviously any sanitary facilities at them we closed, so to avoid people crapping in the bushes, self contained vans only.

    paladin
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    @joshvegas

    you can pitch a tent in the forest.

    matt_outandabout
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    Indeed, a lot of these aire type places are only for those with onboard loos. Unfortunately, most tent folk do not lug around a porta-potti.

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    chakaping
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    “Overnight parking” was the headline they were looking for?

    dovebiker
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    My estimate as the amount of funding allocated by FLS for the provision of facilities like waste disposal and the enforcement of these new rules ?
    Big fat zero based on my local experience where we’ve seen zero upkeep, the closing of trails, removal of boardwalks, bridges. Invasive species like knotweed and giant hogweed continue to spread unhindered. Public toilets closed since COVID. I could go on…

    matt_outandabout
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    Indeed, FLS seem a black hole of funds for these projects. Money in = shiny new facility, but minimal maintenance or provision of the ‘basics’…

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    dovebiker
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    Don’t forget the millions in revenue they’re getting due to huge amount of harvesting going on – they leave a post-industrial wasteland completely devoid of life.

    IHN
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    Yeah, but the vehicle featured sits in that grey area between campervan and motorhome.

    Nope, it’s a motorhome

    If you can get it in a normal sized car park space, it’s a campervan

    If it’s too big for that, it’s a motorhome

    I suspect it’s mainly down to them only wanting people with toilets onboard.  We used the forest sites a couple of years ago between Christmas and New Years and obviously any sanitary facilities at them we closed, so to avoid people crapping in the bushes, self contained vans only.

    We have a campervan and don’t have a loo onboard. I/we will occasionally camp in it where there are no facilities and consider a wee (no number twosies though) behind a discrete bush as fair game.

    joshvegas
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    Indeed, a lot of these aire type places are only for those with onboard loos. Unfortunately, most tent folk do not lug around a porta-potti.

    I get that but would they as a condition of staying in these locations? Presumably they intend to police this or effectively its anyone in a van. If they place it then when not police users of any kind under the same rules?

    I’ve stopped in enough scottish laybys to realise that having an onboard bog is no guarantee that it won’t be emptied before driving off.

    Effectively an reward for having enough money to own an unnecessary recreational vehicle* while someone on a shoe string driving their wee car and lugging about a small tent has to find somewhere to pay for**.

    Its more of an observation than a grievance of mine.

    *Thats not supposed to be judgemental, they literally are, still want one, might get one.
    **Because i don’t think under the new plan i could leave my car parked in the carpark overnight and lug my tent somewhere. And would i want to leave my bikes anyway?

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    scotroutes
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    Presumably they intend to police this or effectively its anyone in a van. If they place it then when not police users of any kind under the same rules?

    Let’s get real for a moment. Turn up in a FLS car park after dark, park up for the night, leave at first light. What’s your chances of seeing any “enforcer”? These schemes are just a way to milk those that are trying to abide by the rules whilst letting off anybody at all troublesome. See: LLTNP camping permits.

    ditch_jockey
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    LLTNP have a team of seasonal rangers who police the camping zones on a daily basis – they regularly challenge people camping without permits, and repeat offenders incur fines. How many people slip through the net, I have no idea. The rangers are funded and managed by LLTNP, not FLS, although I think they do manage some of the camping on FLS land around Aberfoyle

    I know this as one of my buddies has been a seasonal ranger for the last couple of years, and we often pass car journeys with tales of his dealings with the rich variety of characters he encounters.

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