Issue 154: Tech That Should Have Stuck Around

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Benji dons possibly rose-tinted spectacles and brings us the technology that he thinks has fallen undeservedly out of fashion.

Inverted forks

Kicking things off with a real doozy. What are upside-down forks? Basically, the stanchion is at the bottom and the sliders are at the top. Inverted forks like these simply work better at doing the jobs that are important. Hugely more supple, because all the lube oil stays in the area where it’s needed, i.e. the seals. Massively stiffer fore-aft than a single-crown normal fork and thus no oddball jittering or binding under heavy braking. Much better sprung-to-unsprung mass ratio, which means the wheel goes up and down nicerer. And they look super rad. Why don’t we have inverted forks? Because folk can’t get over them being less rotationally stiff than a regular fork. As if a) it matters, and b) it may actually be a good thing. I’d kill for a triple-clamp Lefty with 150mm travel. Or at least inflict a wound.

Flexstems

I appreciate that the suspension stem still exists – Redshift does the ShockStop. And I suspect we’ll start to see a lot more brands coming out with them for the gravel market over the forthcoming months. I am also aware that Fasst produces what amounts to a Flex handlebar (which I do concede to be a very good product albeit one with a shape/sweep that I don’t get along with). But I don’t want to go down either of these avenues. I want a 35mm long Flexstem with a very firm elastomer in its ‘mouth’. Something that can take the edge off that doesn’t have the ker-twannng surprise of a flexy alloy handlebar.

Single pivots

This is another item that technically still exists. Sorry. You can still get single pivots – flipping amazing ones at that – from companies such as Starling and Orange Bikes. I just wish there were more out there to choose from. I’m not talking about theoretical single pivots either where the chainstay is one uninterrupted beam from main pivot to rear axle. There are plenty of those around. And they all have some sort of rocker linkage thing interfering with… stuff. We got rid of front mechs about a decade ago. Why can’t we have our single pivots back now? Nothing rides as sweetly as a well-executed single pivot.

Insane bikes

The yang to the single pivot’s yin. Where are the bonkers bikes with multiple chains and links that go this way and rods that go the other? Think Cannondale Fulcrum. Brooklyn Machine Works. Kona and their noughties Magic Link bikes that were essentially adjusted with a wingnut and bit of spring. Heck, even Polygon’s Nailed React to mention something a bit more recent. Even some sort of Nicolai (they’ve gone a bit straight-laced of late haven’t they?) There are some promising signs of insania from the design teams at Specialized and Scott but will they see the light of day and/or last beyond a single cycle of a carbon mould?

URTs

I totally think the Unified Rear Triangle concept needs to be brought back for off-road. Specifically for off-road where you don’t really ever stand up. Or, if and when you do stand up, it’s just to check that you can still move after being sat in the same position for the past hour or so. Or, you’re standing up because you’re dying on your arse and just want this interminable fire road climb to end right now, please. Bikes that are rigid when you’re out of the saddle but soak up the washboard when you’re seated? That’s essentially the whole of gravel riding, isn’t it? Someone be brave enough to produce the ideal bike for gravel; you can find it back in the ’90s, right alongside where you’re currently digging up all your other ‘new’ gravel concepts.

Schrader valves

Why. The. Feck. Are we mountain bikers using Presta valves? You can reel off as many ‘because yadda, yadda’ reasonings as you want but I know that the genuine low-down dirty truth is that we fell for the roadies’ lie. I can’t actually remember at this stage what the lie was exactly. There have been so many. Something about narrow rims being better, maybe? Presta valves are fragile. Presta valves clog with sealant. Presta valve lockrings are too small and fiddly to ever undo once you’ve tightened them to the rim adequately. Imagine running Presta valves on your car. Oh my god, Presta valves are awful. BMXers aren’t as stupid as us, are they?

Push-on grips

Yeah, me banging on about push-on grips again. Stay with me here though. Push-on grips are as minimal hassle as they’re going to get. Why? Pretty much every control on your handlebars is either a two-piece clamp or else fully hinged. Which means you don’t have to remove your grips to mess with your shifters, brakes, dropper post and so on. The ease of use of lock-on grips is arguably a total red herring in this day and age. What’s better about push-on grips anyway? There’s simply more actual rubber between your hand and the handlebar. This is good for folk who like skinny grips, folk who like to ride gloveless, folks who are not fans of carpal tunnel syndrome and so on.

Bar ends

Now then. Not all these hark-back hits are things that I personally would find useful or indeed relevant. Take bar ends for example. I have literally felt no need for them er, ever. Even when I had them. But there’s a small but growing murmuring out there in – yep, them again – gravel circles that suggest if we were ‘allowed’ to put bar ends on the handlebars of our cross-country bikes we simply wouldn’t have gravel as a thing. I can’t say I fully understand the argument but who among you is going to be bold enough to break out the bar ends?

Pump-mounts on frames

You can take this two ways. First off, you can take it super literally and we bring back the pump pegs on frames (usually under the top tube). Or you can take things a bit more creatively and imagine that the bike industry had somehow come up with a mini-pump clip standard. Maybe something with the same working circumference as a CO2 cartridge? Of course, we now have ‘accessory mounts’ appearing on the underside of top tubes. Not to mention downtube storage cupboards. But I can’t help but think it’d be nice just to have a mini-pump Lego-person’s-hand on my bike somewhere.

Chain pips

While I’m on about old skool braze-ons, Who remembers chain pips? What was all that about? . Well, these were simple little ridged nubs positioned on the inside of the driveside seatstay that you could hook/dangle your chain from during the times that your rear wheel was out of the bike (puncture, transport, etc). They stopped your chain tying itself in knots and – more significantly for us in 2024 – they made it so much easier when reinserting your rear wheel. This sort of thing feels ripe for rebirth in the era of 3D printing. Hop to it!

Crud Claw

For those who aren’t aware, the Crud Claw was a stiff plastic ‘hand’ of fingers that lay in between cassette sprockets, keeping things clear of mud and general debris. They weren’t perfect; they usually drifted out of position during a ride and ended up scrape-scrape-scraping the cassette as you pedalled. But again, there was plenty of potential there. In my opinion, even if the cassette-clearing version didn’t make a return, I still think a jockey wheel-clearing version could and should exist. Some sort of cleverly shaped finger-scoop mounted on the cage that prevents your jockeys from getting overloaded with gunk.

Quill stems

What’s good about the Aheadset system from a rider’s point of view? Not having to thread steerers anymore sounds like it makes life easier (and cheaper) for fork manufacturers. And doing away with the inserting quill part of a stem saves a bit of weight. So I ask again, what’s good about the Aheadset system from a rider’s point of view? I’d much rather carry 100g and have the functionality of quill stems back, please. Maybe not in their exact ’80s/’90s guise but a refined, modernised design that affords you the ability to raise/lower your handlebar. You know, like we should be able to.

Normal clothing

There comes a point when having the right tool for the job can end up getting in the way of things. Now then, don’t get me wrong. I would definitely say that no ride is going to be improved by not wearing decent cycling shoes and a helmet. It’s just that of late, on occasion, I’ve found myself unintentionally going for a ride with Normal Clothes on. This has usually happened when I’ve been setting up a new test bike and have gotten carried away. I’ll be honest, some of the time it’s not been a great move. Usually when it has been wet out. But on the other hand, sometimes it’s been entirely, fabulously great. It reminded me of why I started riding in the first place.

Truvativ HammerSchmidt

A 2-ratio planetary gear drive that is mounted onto ISCG chain guide tabs AKA a two-speed single-ring chainset. Change under load. Change while coasting. Loads of ground clearance. More unsprung drivetrain mass in the middle of the bike. Sure, the HammerSchmidt totally fouled up dual link floating pivot bike designs (ah well, see: Single pivots above). And the ‘overdrive’ ratio had so much drag on the system that it felt like someone had tipped a load of sharp sand into your gearbox. BUT, once again, the potential was there. This is all something of a moot point as the modern world inexorably draws us towards gearboxed e-bikes. But goshdarn it! We could have been riding around on fab little 2 x 5-speed HammerSchmidlet bikes in the meantime.

Using damping

Instead of linkages. AKA the Emperor’s New Pandora’s Box of anti-squat and anti-rise. I think I’m going to be all bold and thrilling and just come out and state that I don’t think that anti-rise (rear suspension extending during braking) is a real phenomenon on mountain bikes. Anti-squat (rear suspension compressing under pedal force) is a real thing, however over-egged it is. I suppose the point I’m trying to make here really is that we, as mountain bikers, tend to like the idea of linkages and drivetrain forces and stuff. When the real stuff we should like – and know as much as possible about – is suspension damping. A well-set-up damper is going to outperform a lesser-dialled one, regardless of frame pivot placements.

Jank

Sounds like a swear word. Is usually used a bit like a swear word too. I am drawn to the jank. Time was, all we had was jank. WTF is jank? It’s hard to say, partly because the term gets used far too much. But essentially jank means awkward. Modern mountain bikers don’t seem to like anything awkward. They want groomed booters and hold-me-close, kiss-me-quick berms escorting them down the hillsides. Jank is anti-flow. Jank is interruption. Jank is having to concentrate. Jank is having to make stuff up on the spot, unsighted. Jank is terrain that isn’t there for the explicit riding of bikes upon. Jank is da freaking bomb and if you don’t want it, I do. I am a total janker.

Problems

AKA having to rebuild your bike every weekend. This is almost certainly a pathetic rose-tinted view of how things used to be but… here goes. When you had to spend a bit (or a lot) of time attending to your mountain bike at the end of a weekend’s riding, resetting/replacing all of the things that had drifted out of their happy place, I think this was when a great deal of bonding with your bike took place. You’d both been through the mill and you both needed some time together. You and your bike became great pals. These days, through a combination of the bike never going wrong, all the while you yourself are going wrong with greater and greater frequency and amplitude, and the fact that when your bike does eventually go wrong, it costs a million quid to sort out, you and your bike are not in a great relationship with other. So yeah, bring back the problems. Just don’t make them expensive.

Orange Switch 6er. Stif Squatcher. Schwalbe Magic Mary Purple Addix front. Maxxis DHR II 3C MaxxTerra rear. Coil fan. Ebikes are not evil. I have been a writer for nigh on 20 years, a photographer for 25 years and a mountain biker for 30 years. I have written countless magazine and website features and route guides for the UK mountain bike press, most notably for the esteemed and highly regarded Singletrackworld. Although I am a Lancastrian, I freely admit that West Yorkshire is my favourite place to ride. Rarely a week goes by without me riding and exploring the South Pennines.

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  • Issue 154: Tech That Should Have Stuck Around
  • Onzadog
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    Wonder if the SAFE Scott Allen Fife Engineering hydraulic shifter conversion kit features in there. That was ahead of its time and should have had more love.

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    avdave2
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    I loved my flexstem. Really made a difference on a 1986 rigid rockhopper with it’s 1.5″ tyres and handlebars that had the weight and stiffness of scaffold tube.

    I was 19 back then and would feel totally beaten up after being out all day. Today approaching 59 I can ride my rigid whippet all day long and feel fine. So much has changed that it’s easy to look back at the flexstem and wonder why anyone ever thought they were a good idea on a mountain bike.

    I thought I might see grease guard hubs and bottom brackets on the list. Always seemed like a good idea back when everything had loose bearings and would still seem like a good idea for that bike you keep for 50 years.

    One thing on the list I’m happy to see the back of is the quill stem or rather the faff of trying to get the preload right and then tighten the lock ring without messing everything up.

    And the only full suspension bike I’ve ever ridden had a single pivot design and if I ever did buy another then I’d be very happy with the simplicity of it and it would give me everything I need for the way I ride

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    edd
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    Quill stems? Really?

    Fun article otherwise (although I also never want a URT in my life, but then I don’t want to go gravel riding either).

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    matt_outandabout
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    I’ve said it before: Rapid Rise rear mechs. But not the flappy shifters.

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    sanername
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    Jank is shonky, surely?

    mrchrist
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    Brought a new gx mech last week and was Good to see cog hogs been integrated into mech design.

    I have little stubby bar ends in my xc bike. Great for getting your hand comfortable on long rides.

    Funny that you mention normal clothes as I saw an article on the guardian about insta folk wearing crisp shirt to ski and run in too.

    I defo don’t miss spending more time getting than riding though.

     

    BadlyWiredDog
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    This is the mountain biking equivalent of some chair-bound old giffer reminiscing about the 1960/70s Stuff you just can’t get any more like black and white televisions, Kodak Instamatic film cameras, mini-skirts – using less fabric has to be good for the planet right  – massive bell-bottom flares and platform soles, cheap and nutritious Spam, and the Beatles, massively superior to modern music in every way… oh, and don’t forget eight-track car stereo units and Austin Allegros.

    Modern life truly is rubbish.

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    mick_r
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    Plus 1 on quill stems really?

    I read it in the mag yesterday and questioned if it was just clickbait. They have so few benefits, and have you ever actually mtb’d with a threaded headset??? Always shaking  loose at inopportune moments and need a huge pair of spanners to adjust rather than a hex key. Awful things.

    Wraith Bicycle have made some interesting URTs so maybe there is a little mileage in that one. https://www.facebook.com/wraithbicycles

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    TheGingerOne
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    The Kona Impact headset sorted out the quill headset spanner issue from memory, adjusted by Allen key.

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    mick_r
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    Adjusted with one small easily rounded prone to seizing bolt 🙂. I don’t need to use memory as we have one in the attic. You can also see how nicely the adjusted area of a quill stem rusts 🙂

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    explorerboy
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    Riding in normal clothes reminds me of spotting a guy wearing a linen shirt and JEANs under his leathers at a track day years back.

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    kimbers
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    Presta valves are stupid, schraeder makes so much more sense, especially in a tubeless world.

     

    Push-on grips can push off though, the advantage to lock ons isn’t that they can be removed easily, its that they don’t spin around on a soaking wet ride

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    sargey2003
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    Another comment on the insanity of thinking quill stems were ever a good option – they were crap.

    They also made moving a fork between different bikes pretty much impossible unless your head-tube was exactly the same length.

    Just no.

    Bruce
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    Aren’t upside down forks great? No not when you half way into a 50 mile ride and they piss the entire oil contents all over your disc brake. So 25 miles with duff forks and no front brake, thankyou Maverick.

    FOG
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    I really miss barends, in fact I still add them to as many bikes as will take them. I do have a specific reason . As my ex used to say , my hands are on backwards meaning a normal, straight, flattish bar is very uncomfortable. I have tried swept back bars but nothing is as comfortable as barends. I have no problem with road bars because hoods give a similar position to barends

    sharkattack
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    If upside down forks were the industry standard, everyone would be clamouring for right way up forks just because ‘they look super rad’. People just want the other thing, whatever it is.

    I use push on grips on 4 bikes. There’s something about modern rubber and shot peened bars that means they just never move. Slide them on with GT85 and it’s party time until you crash and get mud under them. Then they’ll need a good clean out.

    Lock on grips were a God send at the time though. Every brake and shifter had a single pinch bolt and old grips used to get wet and start spinning instantly. Those dual compound ones in the picture were a prime example of a grip that wouldn’t stay put anywhere near slight moisture.

    Also I think I heard a story about Myles Rockwell threatening to quite racing if Cannondale made him ride that bike because it was so dangerous. Can anyone at Sea Otter go digging for confirmation?

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    Rubber_Buccaneer
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    If upside down forks were the industry standard, everyone would be clamouring for right way up forks just because ‘they look super rad’. People just want the other thing, whatever it is.

    Nah, upside down makes more sense and everyone would associate anything else as being for vintage motorcycles.  What we wouldn’t have is 15mm axles, 20mm would rule or maybe we’d have gone the other way and have lovely stiff 25mm keeping everything in line

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    zomg
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    No mention of front mechs? 1x means huge gear gaps and a stupid extra-heavy extra-costly cassette hanging off the rear axle making the bike more ponderous and less fun.

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    sharkattack
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    Front mechs are deservedly extinct and I would never consider a bike that needed one.

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    dreednya
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    20mm bolt-thru forks?

    spoonmeister
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    @zomg Surely a Hammerschmidt, DH mech and a tightly spaced cassette covers that?

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    BB
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    Nothing more to add other than: quill stems can stay in the sea.

     

    Hateful things.

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    MrPottatoHead
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    I just came here to give the crud claw some nostalgic love. So simple but so good.

    Push on grips-cheap hairspray over GT-85. Can still remember the smells of the workshop when I worked Saturdays 25yrs ago.

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    keithb
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    IS mount frames with post mount calipers.  Having your threads that hold your brakes in place in your very expensive frame, that is basically scrap if you cross thread or over tighten the bolts is insane, especially when compared with having them in an easily replaceable £5 bracket….

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    sillyoldman
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    Aheadsets don’t loosen 3 times per ride. They have potentially more stem height adjustability than quill stems, they’re lighter, the stems don’t rock around inside the steerer. The stems are easy to tighten sufficiently that they don’t rotate – unlike some quill stems. They also don’t seize in place like some quill stems.

    The steerers internal diameter can vary to support the varying loads they experience at different points in their length as they don’t need to accept a stem

     

    Quill stems are best forgotten.

    Sandwich
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    The problem with upside down forks as posited in the article is one too many legs. The Lefty is the way to go on this, with the later ones being  quite a bit better engineered than the earlier ones and less prone to air-pressure loss.

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