No, they still come under the general cycling activity, only ebike segments are different as before.

Some of the most interesting, and tricky, single track quickly becomes a ripped straight line once a segment is created.

this happened long before strava and will continue to happen long after strava.

This thread was started 4 years ago, has anything actually changed in that time? More trails either opened up or shut down because of Strava?

If Strava helps to erode the whole twee, pretentious ‘cheeky trails’ ethos, which basically translates to ‘my trails, I’m being naughty, no-one else allowed, especially riders who aren’t local’, then I’m all in favour of it.

Add in the ‘cheeky’ rules which tip-toe around any idea that hey, we might actually have a moral right to ride footpaths, by acting like we’re all naughty little children, sneaking out of school at break time. Shudder.

If Strava means more people ride more, then great. Very few people ime, care if you riding on a footpath these days as long as you do it considerately and, if necessary, take the time to have a friendly chat and explain your thinking.

Here’s a thought, it’s the current rights of way system that’s destroying trails in areas like the Peak, by funnelling the bulk of the bike traffic down a limited number of tracks, which are consequently hammered senseless. YMMV etc.

We do have a right to be on the land and ride across it, but in this chat there are too many people going on about what they are entitled to do without accepting that they are also responsible for what they do.

The Kinder trespassers wanted the right to access the land responsibly.

+1

Some people want “open access to the countryside” to ride wherever they like, in the first instance footpaths, other non-ROW paths secondary.

That’s not the same as the right dig every remote hillside into a mini Innerleithen which seems to be the increasingly visible group, and not the “responsible” image the other group would want to portray of access.

This thread was started 4 years ago, has anything actually changed in that time? More trails either opened up or shut down because of Strava?

I believe there was something involving Cotic (or at least Cy) that I read about the other day where trails got shut down (they had permission but heatmaps gave them away and led to them being shut down). Can’t remember where I read it, on Insta I think.

As for riding illegally setting a precedent for upgrades, well I’ve never heard of a successful case,

Surely it misses the point.

It’s not just access that you have to show, it has to be unchallenged. If you ride past a sign saying no cycling, or they’ve told some other cyclist to get off the land then you’re on a hiding to nothing.

e.g. where I used to live has a small sign by the entrance saying “this is not a public right or way and there is no intention to designate it as such. Road open 00:01am 26th December- 23:59pm 24th December.” A whole team of private security didn’t turn up to kick people out on Christmas day, but the sign meant you couldn’t ever have claimed to have had ridden you bike there for years and get it turned into a bridleway.

Not something I have ever thought about. I have been riding illegally ever since I started using Strava 10 years ago and have recorded every ride since that time. Am I going to end up in prison….

Has Trespass now moved from Civil to Criminal? I thought I’d seen something a few months ago about this possibly happening so it then ramped up the likelihood of actual problems happening.

Strava is great and truly awful in equal measures…useful for finding trails but also the tricky/challenging ones are being modified to be far easier as those that don’t want to take the time to practice and improve are straightening them/removing the technical bits so they can ride ‘them’.

There are far more people riding these days but many of them haven’t spent time around the outdoors as others have so don’t have the same thinking/respect for it – they don’t like a chat about it all and they keep doing what they want as they think they can. There is an education piece desperately needed, but no-one seems to be able to do it effectively and widely enough. At the same time, it is great the more people are accessing the outdoors and on bikes…

Anyone know if the specific “mountain bike ride” activity type automatically disregards chair lift climbs like their ski activity apparently does?

Ta.