I'm voting for the town hall clock. It's far more reliable than any of the MPs around here, and would just about as much use in government as well.
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If there was a UK general election tomorrow, which party would you vote for?
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Posted 6 months ago #
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No idea who I'd vote for. I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter which of the 3 main parties you vote for, they're all so closely aligned that it makes no difference.
Politics has become more about who has the best PR agency than the right policies. I don't think any of them represent the peoples best interests, just their own and those of their paymasters the banking elite.
Red, blue, yellow? Whatever.
I like the idea of being governed by our own parliament rather than the European one, so would be tempted to vote UKIP. Problem is from what I can see you scratch the surface and might as well vote BNP.
+1 to Ernie, if you think any of us live in a democracy take a look at Greece. The birthplace of democracy and they remove the PM because he has the bare faced cheek to try to ask the people what they want!
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I won't be able to vote tomorrow, as I haven't been sent a polling card.
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I tend to make my choice by a process of elimination:
Labour - every single previous Labour administration has ended in bankruptcy and chaos, so they disqualify themselves for being unable to count
Lib Dems - will say whatever it takes to get elected but always incompetent when in office; a bunch of inadequates who aren't good enough to be in either of the other two parties (with the possible exceptions of Cable and Laws) and who tend to say one thing in Westminster and the opposite locally (and I'm not just thinking of the current bunch)
Green - if there's one thing that the 20th century taught us it's that communism doesn't work. When they realise this they might get more votes, because the central message is strong
UKIP - potty, closet racists, whose presence prevents any meaningful debate about Europe, immigration etc. (watch them do well tho')
Nationalists - deluded regional self interest, all funded by someone else
Which only leaves abstention (weak), revolution (dangerous) or, pathetic as they are, the Tories
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Dear "The Rich"
Wow. Now thats what I'm talking about. Trouble is, this is a nation of sheep, indoctrinated and numbed by reality TV, corrie and The Sun.
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Wow. Now thats what I'm talking about. Trouble is, this is a nation of sheep, indoctrinated and numbed by reality TV, corrie and The Sun.
Not forever.
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More importantly, who do you want to win I'm a celebrity get me out of here? I vote for the Aussie bird with the big bangers.
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I thought they only ate rice and cockroaches. Where did she get the sausages from?
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Labour - every single previous Labour administration has ended in bankruptcy and chaos, so they disqualify themselves for being unable to count
I fail to see how the credit crunch cuased by the US sub prime market or the OPEC oil hike had anything to do with labour - the tories matched labour spending commitments for example so would have faired no better.Green - if there's one thing that the 20th century taught us it's that communism doesn't work. When they realise this they might get more votes, because the central message is strong
The greens are not communists are you just confused ? How is that communist China doing right now throughout the failure ? Better or worse than rampant capitalism?
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More importantly, who do you want to win I'm a celebrity get me out of here?
Haha, Exactly.
(Pat Sharpe FTW BTW, for having the cajones to speak his mind.)
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How is that communist China doing right now throughout the failure ? Better or worse than rampant capitalism?
They are doing rather well. Thanks to rampant capitalism.
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communist China
Communist!?
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Indeed China are major stakeholders in most of European Debt and most of the USA's come to that.
Rampant capitalists they certainly are.. You wait, they'll hold the world to ransom soon..
Muhahaha, muhahah
Still, we see this everywhere these days. Needs sorting out sharpish.. Stinky smells eminating... Pong'idge
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so communist states are doing better than capitalist ones due to rampant capitlaism and I meant to conclude that communism has failed and capitalism has won.... mmm interesting logic at work
lets not go OT I am sure everyone can see the point being made
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Zulu-Eleven - Member
I can't answer the question Ernie, because there isn't an Election in the offing, there are no potential candidates and I've not had a chance to select on the basis of their policies and my interests
Of course you can, the question is very clear : "If there was a UK general election tomorrow, which party would you vote for?"
Stop avoiding the question like a politician and answer it.
Would you vote Labour ? Would you vote LibDem ? Would you vote Tory ? Would you vote UKIP ? Who vote BNP ? Who would you vote for ?
It's the standard question which pollsters ask people when they are carrying out an opinion poll. Most people have no trouble answering it .......but apparently it's too difficult for you to answer ?
As I said, why have you suddenly become so shy ? Usually you're more than happy to bang on about politics, including slagging off political parties, but all of a sudden when you are asked to put your money where your mouth is, it's no longer about "party politics" ! Charlatan
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lets not go OT I am sure everyone can see the point being made
Thats JY saying "OK, China isnt Communist"
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Tory.
I would never consider voting Labour, it's the start of a slippery slope. Before you know it you're watching ITV, reading a tabloid, referring to lunch as 'dinner', eating your evening meal at the same time as Newsround, driving a Vauxhall and married to a 'bubbly' woman who drinks pints.
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I'm voting Lib-Dem. Lynne Featherstone is an excellent MP.
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Erm.. CommuCapital'ists if you don't mind.
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Tory.
I would never consider voting Labour, it's the start of a slippery slope. Before you know it you're watching ITV, reading a tabloid, referring to lunch as 'dinner', eating your evening meal at the same time as Newsround, driving a Vauxhall and married to a 'bubbly' woman who drinks pints.
You'll never really be in their crowd, though, bravohotel8er
Oh, you can get the pin-stripe suit, quaff late bottled port, get a side parting and wear a nice blue rosette, but they're keeping the wealth and the power.
You know that, right?
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Thats JY saying "OK, China isnt Communist"
I would work on either your deductive powers or your ability to read my mind as both seem quite poor.Posted 6 months ago # -
JY - To be fair, interpreting your posts can be a bit of a leap in the dark sometimes, although your spelling has improved of late - has your account been hacked?
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Of course you can, the question is very clear : "If there was a UK general election tomorrow, which party would you vote for?"
To be fair, hard to make a choice without knowing the policies of the parties post-election - of course election time means that they do really try and differentiate themselves with claims they can't realistically make work.I think it's quite reasonable to expect that they will try and big out some new strategies and policies for an election.
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My MP is Francis Maude.
The seat has been Tory since 1880.
I vote Green.
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Ed Miliband got smoked at PMQs today
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7419028/ed-looks-more-dead-than-deadly.thtml
Miliband then revealed to a startled house that he had discovered the solution to youth unemployment, albeit rather late in his career. ‘Get those on the highest incomes to help those with no income at all,’ he ordered the prime minister. ‘Tax bankers’ bonuses and create 120,000 jobs for young people.’ Simple as that.
Cameron, with his lip curling into a Heseltinian smirk, jumped gleefully on this inept daydream. ‘Another new use for the bonus tax,’ he mocked. ‘There have been nine already.’ He rattled off a wish-list of projects ear-marked for bank-sourced subsidies, including ‘converting empty shops into community centres’.
Mr Miliband’s glum face now resembled a deflated soufflé. An air of defeat hung over him and he looked like an over-promoted cashier trying to run the shop while the boss is at the bookie’s. Piously, he lamented that the prime minister was ‘playing politics with youth unemployment.’ Which brilliantly highlighted the fact that Mr Miliband was playing politics with youth unemployment. The Tories erupted with sarcastic laughter. And Speaker Bercow had to shut them up so that we could enjoy the sight of Labour’s leader entangling himself in more self-made muddles.
But he’d had enough. As Cameron denounced the opposition front bench as ‘the people who got us into this mess in the first place’, Miliband looked positively relieved to have used up all his questions
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Ed Miliband is my MP the bloke is a waste of space a typical new labour clown.
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Is Goldman Sachs a party yet? I know they run Europe, just wondered if they'd appear on the ballot paper so I know where to put my
crosssteaming shitPosted 6 months ago # -
So - is the summary of that something along the lines of - none of them would be worth pissing on if they were on fire?
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To be fair, hard to make a choice without knowing the policies of the parties post-election
Most people when asked by pollsters "If there was a UK general election tomorrow which party would you vote for?" have no problem answering the question.
Typically only about 10% answer "don't know", the other 90% manage to answer the question.
Given Z-11 outspoken views on politics, I would have expected him to be able to easily answer the question.
The "I don't vote for the party but the candidate" claim by Z-11 is a red herring. He knows full well that whoever the candidate is, each party has an election manifesto. He also knows full well that he would never support a Labour, LibDem, or Green, manifesto.......whoever their candidate was.
Now if he means that he can't make up his mind which far right candidate he would support, then fair enough, I can see the dilemma - Nigel Farage or a Tory Eurosceptic Thatcherite candidate. But I think he should say so - specially as he is always so very keen to share his right-wing critique of politics with everyone.
I suspect the truth is that the David Cameron's Tory Party is too left-wing for Z-11, but he can't bring himself to say so publicly.
And if I'm misrepresenting his views then he has only himself to blame.....he should be more honest about his politics.
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Wunundred!
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at this moment, not sure, i have voted liberal in the past, would i stil? not sure. would never vote tory or labour. I might have to read the green party manifesto and see what they are suggesting.
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But you're wrong Ernie, and you've got my motives entirely wrong too
The reason I decided not to go into my choice was that I felt it would derail the thread
My local conservative MP has not yet revealed his position on the repeal of the hunting act. Given that historically its always been a free vote issue, there is no party political aspect.
I don't know the position of my UKIP, Labour or Lib Dem candidates - but suffice to say, if there was an election coming I'd know (at the last election, my vote was in a different constituency) I'd be finding out and it would pay a large part in my decision who to vote for, id the Conservative candidate was against a repeal, and the Labour one was for a repeal, then I would be very likely to vote Labour.
Thats called having principles - Not like yourself, who said that on a matter of principle he would not vote for Ken as mayor, but did anyway
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The reason I decided not to go into my choice was that I felt it would derail the thread
Awww.....bless you Z-ll, you didn't want to "derail the thread". Since when has that been a problem for you ......specially with a political thread ?
So you're thinking of voting Labour then ?
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JY - To be fair, interpreting your posts can be a bit of a leap in the dark sometimes, although your spelling has improved of late - has your account been hacked?
Its a fair point tbh sometimes at work i have a few minutes between appointments and fire of some post that becomes incomprehensible nonsense - I occasionally hit the laptop touch pad and the order of sentences gets muddled.
It also does just seem to be my "signature " on here so sometimes I just leave it as it was. Not the really bad stuff that is user error
Its a fair point though. I my actually start to use punctuation ,but, imagine what the pedants would do to me then. At least now I can pretend I dont carePosted 6 months ago # -
Isn't anyone else alarmed at Z11s choice of political master is based mainly on granting him permission to kill animals?
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